Let us collect a motivation packet for the programmer of Andscacs!
Much more interesting as to start a bad discussion!
March 2014 ... the IPP problem!
TOP-20, FCP Rating List, final ...
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1 Houdini 4 STD x64 A : 3128.3 1142.5 1450 78.8%
2 Stockfish 08.02.14 SSE42 x64 : 3105.6 989.5 1250 79.2%
3 Stockfish 05.12.13 SSE42 x64 : 3097.5 994.5 1350 73.7%
4 Houdini 3 Pro x64 : 3087.4 1035.0 1390 74.5%
5 Komodo TCECr x64 : 3073.5 1159.0 1600 72.4%
6 Stockfish 03.11.13 SSE42 x64 : 3066.1 727.5 1000 72.8%
7 Houdini 2.0c x64 : 3054.7 1111.0 1400 79.4%
8 Komodo 6 x64 : 3044.8 814.5 1170 69.6%
9 GullChess 2.8 Beta BMI2 x64 : 3038.6 927.5 1300 71.3%
10 Houdini 1.5 x64 : 3031.4 1814.5 2320 78.2%
11 Critter 1.6a x64 : 3015.8 1017.5 1540 66.1%
12 Critter 1.4 x64 : 3012.5 1244.5 1600 77.8%
13 Houdini 1.5 w32 : 3008.9 976.5 1240 78.8%
14 Equinox 2.02 x64 : 2997.3 893.0 1400 63.8%
15 Equinox 2.00 x64 : 2997.1 869.0 1340 64.9%
16 Komodo 3.0 x64 : 2990.3 1203.0 1600 75.2%
17 Fire 3.0 AVX x64 : 2989.1 740.5 1100 67.3%
18 Bouquet 1.8 x64 : 2989.0 896.0 1440 62.2%
19 Komodo 4.0 x64 : 2988.8 1208.5 1600 75.5%
20 Rybka 4.1 Exp.79 x64 : 2987.1 942.0 1200 78.5%
All the programmers in the past must be very stupid if programs started today with 2800 Elo or have over 3000 Elo. Shredder was a long time, with around 100 Elo more as the others, on place 1 with 2800 Elo.
The great new Cheng 4.40 vs. Shredder 12 (World Champion, long years on place 1 with 2800 Elo).
Vs. Cheng 4.40 no chance for Shredder 12!
Are today all the programmers "Dirty Nasty Cloners"?
No, no ... intelligent people!
Searching all the time for the next good ideas in chess programming!
The causal chain!
NNUE is for a programmer a very boring work.
To train on own net ... sure, most do not like it.
Programmers should work on new ideas and not waste on time with old ideas.
NNUE is today an old idea but maybe during the work, NNUE support add, talents in chess programming can create in additional new ideas. A good job for programmers, like Daniel and many others.
Try it out and thinking about it ...
Sure, the programmer of Andscacs do that.
The year 2014 ... the IPP year.
Since a while we celebrate the ... Stockfish years.
Since a while we celebrate the ... Shogi ideas.
How many of TOP-50 chess programs used good known old ideas?
95% or 99% or 100% ... please help me, not sure here?
The programmer of Andscacs made some experiments with NNUE and give us the work and his impressions.
What is wrong, nothing is wrong!
More originality = an own net
The NNUE idea is always the same, end of the year 2020 available with small changes by a group of around 15 programmers. It's good if programmers try out NNUE and are able to add own ideas. But in reality ... the NNUE idea is the same.
To give a small group of "exclusive programmers" the OK ...
You are an TalkChess supporter, here you have, you can use NNUE.
And for the others no, no ... you are a "Cloner" ... that's a typical "HNP" ... human narrow perspective.
What people like to do if the day is long and the night is short.
Not new for me!
Best
Frank