Knight odds test blitz match dragon vs GM Lenderman

[lkaufman]

From discord

"katago has a feature called pda where it'll assume the oponent is worse than itself and play more aggressively, and it does do riskier plays. It's mainly used for handicap games, where the opponent places extra stones on the board"

How feasible is it to teach Dragon something similiar ?

Well, that's why we use the MCTS version of Dragon for these handicap matches. It does not assume perfect play. Also we use Contempt to avoid simplification. Probably we could do something more explicitly designed for playing humans in handicap games, but it would of course be difficult to test.

[Chessqueen]

This Thursday, April 8, from 1 pm to 5 pm Eastern Daylight time, we plan to play a four hour series of blitz games between the latest Komodo Dragon (MCTS mode) and GM Alex Lenderman (FIDE 2624 standard, 2642 Rapid, 2651 Blitz) on chess.com at knight odds. This is not a show, just a test of a proposed format for future matches, but anyone can watch the games (observe games of Playkomodo or AlexanderL). The format is this: the first game is at 9' + 1" increment (the slowest time control that chess.com classifies as blitz), at knight and move odds (meaning Nb8 removed). This is repeated if necessary until Lenderman wins a game, then he plays Black (so Nb1 removed), again repeating if necessary until he wins. Once he wins with Black, time limit is cut to 8' + 1", and he again must win a game as White and another as Black to promote to 7' + 1". After each pair of wins another minute is deducted. If we reaches 1' + 1" and wins with both colors, he'll just continue to play as Black at that handicap until the four hours is up. Dragon will be playing on my 32 core Threadripper, will have a tiny opening book to insure variety at knight odds, and will play quite a bit faster than the time limit would allow. I expect him to win most of the early games, but to get bogged down once the time limit gets a bit low. He'll get $20 for each win so he will be motivated; draws don't help him, it's effectively "knight odds Armageddon". What time limit will he reach in the four hours allotted?

Since Dragon has improved a lot in the last 11 months since the last match against GM Lenderman when it lost at Knight Odds at 3'+2", I believe that at 3'+1" it is time for an improved Dragon to get its revenge. So my answer is that GM Lenderman will reach 3'+1" time limit in his 4 hours alloted.

That was also my opinion a week ago, now I'm a little more optimistic based on some refinements so I'll predict he'll just reach 4' + 1". Even 9' + 1" is not enough time for me to beat Dragon at knight odds, but I'm a long way from Lenderman's level in blitz, and even further with only a one second increment, so I can't really judge from my own games with Dragon. I would guess that whatever level he reaches, Hikaru could probably reach half that base time level at least if he plays it the same way.

In order to reach 4'+1'' you need to win 10 games at average time control of 7'+1''
The human may use average time of 8 minutes in these games(I assume using most of his time and getting to average of more than 60 moves)

If dragon is going to use average time of 7 minutes then a game is going to take 15 minutes and it means only the win without additional games may take 150 minutes and we will have only 90 minutes of bad tries.

I predict it is not going to happen and I guess lenderman is going to reach only 5'+1''

Dragon is set to play quite a bit faster than necessary, partly to insure enough games in total. I would estimate that at 7' + 1" it will use under 5 minutes per game, not 7, allowing 110 minutes for "bad tries".

Mr. Kaufman, Where is the direct link to watch the match ?

Here is the first game ==> https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/11643892395

If you see on the bottom Alexander is winning 5 to 1 ==> https://www.chess.com/member/playkomodo

Can somebody explain to me how Komodo won this game, or is it because of the armageddon that the GM failed to win, therefore, Komodo Won ?
==> https://www.chess.com/game/live/1164745 ... playkomodo

Alex resigned games once he thought he had little chance to win; in one or two cases he might have been mistaken in that conclusion. He did better than we all expected to reach 2' + 1"; Komodo Dragon won overall by 17 to 15, but Alex was doing fine until he had to play Black with 3' + 1", which proved very difficult, although he eventually won a game that way. Looks like 4' + 1" was the break-even TC under the given conditions.

Mr. Kaufman, what time control would you offer to GM Nakamura in the very near future, and believe that Komodo MCTS dragon can defeat him with Knight Odds, probably 2'+1" ?

[lkaufman]

This Thursday, April 8, from 1 pm to 5 pm Eastern Daylight time, we plan to play a four hour series of blitz games between the latest Komodo Dragon (MCTS mode) and GM Alex Lenderman (FIDE 2624 standard, 2642 Rapid, 2651 Blitz) on chess.com at knight odds. This is not a show, just a test of a proposed format for future matches, but anyone can watch the games (observe games of Playkomodo or AlexanderL). The format is this: the first game is at 9' + 1" increment (the slowest time control that chess.com classifies as blitz), at knight and move odds (meaning Nb8 removed). This is repeated if necessary until Lenderman wins a game, then he plays Black (so Nb1 removed), again repeating if necessary until he wins. Once he wins with Black, time limit is cut to 8' + 1", and he again must win a game as White and another as Black to promote to 7' + 1". After each pair of wins another minute is deducted. If we reaches 1' + 1" and wins with both colors, he'll just continue to play as Black at that handicap until the four hours is up. Dragon will be playing on my 32 core Threadripper, will have a tiny opening book to insure variety at knight odds, and will play quite a bit faster than the time limit would allow. I expect him to win most of the early games, but to get bogged down once the time limit gets a bit low. He'll get $20 for each win so he will be motivated; draws don't help him, it's effectively "knight odds Armageddon". What time limit will he reach in the four hours allotted?

Since Dragon has improved a lot in the last 11 months since the last match against GM Lenderman when it lost at Knight Odds at 3'+2", I believe that at 3'+1" it is time for an improved Dragon to get its revenge. So my answer is that GM Lenderman will reach 3'+1" time limit in his 4 hours alloted.

That was also my opinion a week ago, now I'm a little more optimistic based on some refinements so I'll predict he'll just reach 4' + 1". Even 9' + 1" is not enough time for me to beat Dragon at knight odds, but I'm a long way from Lenderman's level in blitz, and even further with only a one second increment, so I can't really judge from my own games with Dragon. I would guess that whatever level he reaches, Hikaru could probably reach half that base time level at least if he plays it the same way.

In order to reach 4'+1'' you need to win 10 games at average time control of 7'+1''
The human may use average time of 8 minutes in these games(I assume using most of his time and getting to average of more than 60 moves)

If dragon is going to use average time of 7 minutes then a game is going to take 15 minutes and it means only the win without additional games may take 150 minutes and we will have only 90 minutes of bad tries.

I predict it is not going to happen and I guess lenderman is going to reach only 5'+1''

Dragon is set to play quite a bit faster than necessary, partly to insure enough games in total. I would estimate that at 7' + 1" it will use under 5 minutes per game, not 7, allowing 110 minutes for "bad tries".

Mr. Kaufman, Where is the direct link to watch the match ?

Here is the first game ==> https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/11643892395

If you see on the bottom Alexander is winning 5 to 1 ==> https://www.chess.com/member/playkomodo

Can somebody explain to me how Komodo won this game, or is it because of the armageddon that the GM failed to win, therefore, Komodo Won ?
==> https://www.chess.com/game/live/1164745 ... playkomodo

Alex resigned games once he thought he had little chance to win; in one or two cases he might have been mistaken in that conclusion. He did better than we all expected to reach 2' + 1"; Komodo Dragon won overall by 17 to 15, but Alex was doing fine until he had to play Black with 3' + 1", which proved very difficult, although he eventually won a game that way. Looks like 4' + 1" was the break-even TC under the given conditions.

Mr. Kaufman, what time control would you offer to GM Nakamura in the very near future, and believe that Komodo MCTS dragon can defeat him with Knight Odds, probably 2'+1" ?

Well, details matter. Today's games were effectively Armageddon knight odds but with both colors. Although Dragon "won" by 17 to 15, without Armageddon it would have lost overall since Lenderman would have drawn several games he resigned, while with strict Armageddon scoring it won 18 to 14. If we stick with Armageddon knight odds as we did today, Lenderman was about even with White at an average of 4' + 1" and with Black at an average of 6' + 1". My best guess extrapolating from this is that Hikaru would be even with Armageddon knight odds at 2' + 1" with White and 3' + 1" with Black. Since "knight odds" technically means that the odds-giver gets White, then in a true knight odds Armageddon match 3' + 1" should be fair, and 2' + 1" should favor Dragon. But if all he has to do is win one game with each color, he would surely get to 1' + 1" after a few games at 2' + 1", and might eventually win with both colors at that if he has time for enough games.

[Chessqueen]

This Thursday, April 8, from 1 pm to 5 pm Eastern Daylight time, we plan to play a four hour series of blitz games between the latest Komodo Dragon (MCTS mode) and GM Alex Lenderman (FIDE 2624 standard, 2642 Rapid, 2651 Blitz) on chess.com at knight odds. This is not a show, just a test of a proposed format for future matches, but anyone can watch the games (observe games of Playkomodo or AlexanderL). The format is this: the first game is at 9' + 1" increment (the slowest time control that chess.com classifies as blitz), at knight and move odds (meaning Nb8 removed). This is repeated if necessary until Lenderman wins a game, then he plays Black (so Nb1 removed), again repeating if necessary until he wins. Once he wins with Black, time limit is cut to 8' + 1", and he again must win a game as White and another as Black to promote to 7' + 1". After each pair of wins another minute is deducted. If we reaches 1' + 1" and wins with both colors, he'll just continue to play as Black at that handicap until the four hours is up. Dragon will be playing on my 32 core Threadripper, will have a tiny opening book to insure variety at knight odds, and will play quite a bit faster than the time limit would allow. I expect him to win most of the early games, but to get bogged down once the time limit gets a bit low. He'll get $20 for each win so he will be motivated; draws don't help him, it's effectively "knight odds Armageddon". What time limit will he reach in the four hours allotted?

Since Dragon has improved a lot in the last 11 months since the last match against GM Lenderman when it lost at Knight Odds at 3'+2", I believe that at 3'+1" it is time for an improved Dragon to get its revenge. So my answer is that GM Lenderman will reach 3'+1" time limit in his 4 hours alloted.

That was also my opinion a week ago, now I'm a little more optimistic based on some refinements so I'll predict he'll just reach 4' + 1". Even 9' + 1" is not enough time for me to beat Dragon at knight odds, but I'm a long way from Lenderman's level in blitz, and even further with only a one second increment, so I can't really judge from my own games with Dragon. I would guess that whatever level he reaches, Hikaru could probably reach half that base time level at least if he plays it the same way.

In order to reach 4'+1'' you need to win 10 games at average time control of 7'+1''
The human may use average time of 8 minutes in these games(I assume using most of his time and getting to average of more than 60 moves)

If dragon is going to use average time of 7 minutes then a game is going to take 15 minutes and it means only the win without additional games may take 150 minutes and we will have only 90 minutes of bad tries.

I predict it is not going to happen and I guess lenderman is going to reach only 5'+1''

Dragon is set to play quite a bit faster than necessary, partly to insure enough games in total. I would estimate that at 7' + 1" it will use under 5 minutes per game, not 7, allowing 110 minutes for "bad tries".

Mr. Kaufman, Where is the direct link to watch the match ?

Here is the first game ==> https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/11643892395

If you see on the bottom Alexander is winning 5 to 1 ==> https://www.chess.com/member/playkomodo

Can somebody explain to me how Komodo won this game, or is it because of the armageddon that the GM failed to win, therefore, Komodo Won ?
==> https://www.chess.com/game/live/1164745 ... playkomodo

Alex resigned games once he thought he had little chance to win; in one or two cases he might have been mistaken in that conclusion. He did better than we all expected to reach 2' + 1"; Komodo Dragon won overall by 17 to 15, but Alex was doing fine until he had to play Black with 3' + 1", which proved very difficult, although he eventually won a game that way. Looks like 4' + 1" was the break-even TC under the given conditions.

Mr. Kaufman, what time control would you offer to GM Nakamura in the very near future, and believe that Komodo MCTS dragon can defeat him with Knight Odds, probably 2'+1" ?

Well, details matter. Today's games were effectively Armageddon knight odds but with both colors. Although Dragon "won" by 17 to 15, without Armageddon it would have lost overall since Lenderman would have drawn several games he resigned, while with strict Armageddon scoring it won 18 to 14. If we stick with Armageddon knight odds as we did today, Lenderman was about even with White at an average of 4' + 1" and with Black at an average of 6' + 1". My best guess extrapolating from this is that Hikaru would be even with Armageddon knight odds at 2' + 1" with White and 3' + 1" with Black. Since "knight odds" technically means that the odds-giver gets White, then in a true knight odds Armageddon match 3' + 1" should be fair, and 2' + 1" should favor Dragon. But if all he has to do is win one game with each color, he would surely get to 1' + 1" after a few games at 2' + 1", and might eventually win with both colors at that if he has time for enough games.

Make it that he would have to win 3 games with each color, like that he would surely not get to 1' + 1" so easy, under the same Armageddon condition that GM Lenderman played, plus he would also have to win 3 games with each color with TC of 1' + 1" when he reach that TC .

[lkaufman]

This Thursday, April 8, from 1 pm to 5 pm Eastern Daylight time, we plan to play a four hour series of blitz games between the latest Komodo Dragon (MCTS mode) and GM Alex Lenderman (FIDE 2624 standard, 2642 Rapid, 2651 Blitz) on chess.com at knight odds. This is not a show, just a test of a proposed format for future matches, but anyone can watch the games (observe games of Playkomodo or AlexanderL). The format is this: the first game is at 9' + 1" increment (the slowest time control that chess.com classifies as blitz), at knight and move odds (meaning Nb8 removed). This is repeated if necessary until Lenderman wins a game, then he plays Black (so Nb1 removed), again repeating if necessary until he wins. Once he wins with Black, time limit is cut to 8' + 1", and he again must win a game as White and another as Black to promote to 7' + 1". After each pair of wins another minute is deducted. If we reaches 1' + 1" and wins with both colors, he'll just continue to play as Black at that handicap until the four hours is up. Dragon will be playing on my 32 core Threadripper, will have a tiny opening book to insure variety at knight odds, and will play quite a bit faster than the time limit would allow. I expect him to win most of the early games, but to get bogged down once the time limit gets a bit low. He'll get $20 for each win so he will be motivated; draws don't help him, it's effectively "knight odds Armageddon". What time limit will he reach in the four hours allotted?

Since Dragon has improved a lot in the last 11 months since the last match against GM Lenderman when it lost at Knight Odds at 3'+2", I believe that at 3'+1" it is time for an improved Dragon to get its revenge. So my answer is that GM Lenderman will reach 3'+1" time limit in his 4 hours alloted.

That was also my opinion a week ago, now I'm a little more optimistic based on some refinements so I'll predict he'll just reach 4' + 1". Even 9' + 1" is not enough time for me to beat Dragon at knight odds, but I'm a long way from Lenderman's level in blitz, and even further with only a one second increment, so I can't really judge from my own games with Dragon. I would guess that whatever level he reaches, Hikaru could probably reach half that base time level at least if he plays it the same way.

In order to reach 4'+1'' you need to win 10 games at average time control of 7'+1''
The human may use average time of 8 minutes in these games(I assume using most of his time and getting to average of more than 60 moves)

If dragon is going to use average time of 7 minutes then a game is going to take 15 minutes and it means only the win without additional games may take 150 minutes and we will have only 90 minutes of bad tries.

I predict it is not going to happen and I guess lenderman is going to reach only 5'+1''

Dragon is set to play quite a bit faster than necessary, partly to insure enough games in total. I would estimate that at 7' + 1" it will use under 5 minutes per game, not 7, allowing 110 minutes for "bad tries".

Mr. Kaufman, Where is the direct link to watch the match ?

Here is the first game ==> https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/11643892395

If you see on the bottom Alexander is winning 5 to 1 ==> https://www.chess.com/member/playkomodo

Can somebody explain to me how Komodo won this game, or is it because of the armageddon that the GM failed to win, therefore, Komodo Won ?
==> https://www.chess.com/game/live/1164745 ... playkomodo

Alex resigned games once he thought he had little chance to win; in one or two cases he might have been mistaken in that conclusion. He did better than we all expected to reach 2' + 1"; Komodo Dragon won overall by 17 to 15, but Alex was doing fine until he had to play Black with 3' + 1", which proved very difficult, although he eventually won a game that way. Looks like 4' + 1" was the break-even TC under the given conditions.

Mr. Kaufman, what time control would you offer to GM Nakamura in the very near future, and believe that Komodo MCTS dragon can defeat him with Knight Odds, probably 2'+1" ?

Well, details matter. Today's games were effectively Armageddon knight odds but with both colors. Although Dragon "won" by 17 to 15, without Armageddon it would have lost overall since Lenderman would have drawn several games he resigned, while with strict Armageddon scoring it won 18 to 14. If we stick with Armageddon knight odds as we did today, Lenderman was about even with White at an average of 4' + 1" and with Black at an average of 6' + 1". My best guess extrapolating from this is that Hikaru would be even with Armageddon knight odds at 2' + 1" with White and 3' + 1" with Black. Since "knight odds" technically means that the odds-giver gets White, then in a true knight odds Armageddon match 3' + 1" should be fair, and 2' + 1" should favor Dragon. But if all he has to do is win one game with each color, he would surely get to 1' + 1" after a few games at 2' + 1", and might eventually win with both colors at that if he has time for enough games.

Make it that he would have to win 3 games with each color, like that he would surely not get to 1' + 1" so easy, under the same Armageddon condition that GM Lenderman played, plus he would also have to win 3 games with each color with TC of 1' + 1" when he reach that TC .

With that rule he would have to win nearly every game to get to 1' + 1" in four hours, which is not realistic. Even 2 games with each color would be very difficult, though not unreasonably so.

[Chessqueen]

This Thursday, April 8, from 1 pm to 5 pm Eastern Daylight time, we plan to play a four hour series of blitz games between the latest Komodo Dragon (MCTS mode) and GM Alex Lenderman (FIDE 2624 standard, 2642 Rapid, 2651 Blitz) on chess.com at knight odds. This is not a show, just a test of a proposed format for future matches, but anyone can watch the games (observe games of Playkomodo or AlexanderL). The format is this: the first game is at 9' + 1" increment (the slowest time control that chess.com classifies as blitz), at knight and move odds (meaning Nb8 removed). This is repeated if necessary until Lenderman wins a game, then he plays Black (so Nb1 removed), again repeating if necessary until he wins. Once he wins with Black, time limit is cut to 8' + 1", and he again must win a game as White and another as Black to promote to 7' + 1". After each pair of wins another minute is deducted. If we reaches 1' + 1" and wins with both colors, he'll just continue to play as Black at that handicap until the four hours is up. Dragon will be playing on my 32 core Threadripper, will have a tiny opening book to insure variety at knight odds, and will play quite a bit faster than the time limit would allow. I expect him to win most of the early games, but to get bogged down once the time limit gets a bit low. He'll get $20 for each win so he will be motivated; draws don't help him, it's effectively "knight odds Armageddon". What time limit will he reach in the four hours allotted?

Since Dragon has improved a lot in the last 11 months since the last match against GM Lenderman when it lost at Knight Odds at 3'+2", I believe that at 3'+1" it is time for an improved Dragon to get its revenge. So my answer is that GM Lenderman will reach 3'+1" time limit in his 4 hours alloted.

That was also my opinion a week ago, now I'm a little more optimistic based on some refinements so I'll predict he'll just reach 4' + 1". Even 9' + 1" is not enough time for me to beat Dragon at knight odds, but I'm a long way from Lenderman's level in blitz, and even further with only a one second increment, so I can't really judge from my own games with Dragon. I would guess that whatever level he reaches, Hikaru could probably reach half that base time level at least if he plays it the same way.

In order to reach 4'+1'' you need to win 10 games at average time control of 7'+1''
The human may use average time of 8 minutes in these games(I assume using most of his time and getting to average of more than 60 moves)

If dragon is going to use average time of 7 minutes then a game is going to take 15 minutes and it means only the win without additional games may take 150 minutes and we will have only 90 minutes of bad tries.

I predict it is not going to happen and I guess lenderman is going to reach only 5'+1''

Dragon is set to play quite a bit faster than necessary, partly to insure enough games in total. I would estimate that at 7' + 1" it will use under 5 minutes per game, not 7, allowing 110 minutes for "bad tries".

Mr. Kaufman, Where is the direct link to watch the match ?

Here is the first game ==> https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/11643892395

If you see on the bottom Alexander is winning 5 to 1 ==> https://www.chess.com/member/playkomodo

Can somebody explain to me how Komodo won this game, or is it because of the armageddon that the GM failed to win, therefore, Komodo Won ?
==> https://www.chess.com/game/live/1164745 ... playkomodo

Alex resigned games once he thought he had little chance to win; in one or two cases he might have been mistaken in that conclusion. He did better than we all expected to reach 2' + 1"; Komodo Dragon won overall by 17 to 15, but Alex was doing fine until he had to play Black with 3' + 1", which proved very difficult, although he eventually won a game that way. Looks like 4' + 1" was the break-even TC under the given conditions.

Mr. Kaufman, what time control would you offer to GM Nakamura in the very near future, and believe that Komodo MCTS dragon can defeat him with Knight Odds, probably 2'+1" ?

Well, details matter. Today's games were effectively Armageddon knight odds but with both colors. Although Dragon "won" by 17 to 15, without Armageddon it would have lost overall since Lenderman would have drawn several games he resigned, while with strict Armageddon scoring it won 18 to 14. If we stick with Armageddon knight odds as we did today, Lenderman was about even with White at an average of 4' + 1" and with Black at an average of 6' + 1". My best guess extrapolating from this is that Hikaru would be even with Armageddon knight odds at 2' + 1" with White and 3' + 1" with Black. Since "knight odds" technically means that the odds-giver gets White, then in a true knight odds Armageddon match 3' + 1" should be fair, and 2' + 1" should favor Dragon. But if all he has to do is win one game with each color, he would surely get to 1' + 1" after a few games at 2' + 1", and might eventually win with both colors at that if he has time for enough games.

Make it that he would have to win 3 games with each color, like that he would surely not get to 1' + 1" so easy, under the same Armageddon condition that GM Lenderman played, plus he would also have to win 3 games with each color with TC of 1' + 1" when he reach that TC .

With that rule he would have to win nearly every game to get to 1' + 1" in four hours, which is not realistic. Even 2 games with each color would be very difficult, though not unreasonably so.

I know GM Nakamura since he was 8 years old and if you offer him a knight odds having to win 2 games with each color he would take the challenge. I remember when he was 8 years old in MA a master offered him a pawn odds playing Armageddon and he took the challenge at that time Nakamura was rated like 1459 and after playing 5 games Nakamura got an even score. His ego is very high GM Nakamura will take the knight odds Armageddon challenge at any time.

[Chessqueen]

This Thursday, April 8, from 1 pm to 5 pm Eastern Daylight time, we plan to play a four hour series of blitz games between the latest Komodo Dragon (MCTS mode) and GM Alex Lenderman (FIDE 2624 standard, 2642 Rapid, 2651 Blitz) on chess.com at knight odds. This is not a show, just a test of a proposed format for future matches, but anyone can watch the games (observe games of Playkomodo or AlexanderL). The format is this: the first game is at 9' + 1" increment (the slowest time control that chess.com classifies as blitz), at knight and move odds (meaning Nb8 removed). This is repeated if necessary until Lenderman wins a game, then he plays Black (so Nb1 removed), again repeating if necessary until he wins. Once he wins with Black, time limit is cut to 8' + 1", and he again must win a game as White and another as Black to promote to 7' + 1". After each pair of wins another minute is deducted. If we reaches 1' + 1" and wins with both colors, he'll just continue to play as Black at that handicap until the four hours is up. Dragon will be playing on my 32 core Threadripper, will have a tiny opening book to insure variety at knight odds, and will play quite a bit faster than the time limit would allow. I expect him to win most of the early games, but to get bogged down once the time limit gets a bit low. He'll get $20 for each win so he will be motivated; draws don't help him, it's effectively "knight odds Armageddon". What time limit will he reach in the four hours allotted?

Since Dragon has improved a lot in the last 11 months since the last match against GM Lenderman when it lost at Knight Odds at 3'+2", I believe that at 3'+1" it is time for an improved Dragon to get its revenge. So my answer is that GM Lenderman will reach 3'+1" time limit in his 4 hours alloted.

That was also my opinion a week ago, now I'm a little more optimistic based on some refinements so I'll predict he'll just reach 4' + 1". Even 9' + 1" is not enough time for me to beat Dragon at knight odds, but I'm a long way from Lenderman's level in blitz, and even further with only a one second increment, so I can't really judge from my own games with Dragon. I would guess that whatever level he reaches, Hikaru could probably reach half that base time level at least if he plays it the same way.

In order to reach 4'+1'' you need to win 10 games at average time control of 7'+1''
The human may use average time of 8 minutes in these games(I assume using most of his time and getting to average of more than 60 moves)

If dragon is going to use average time of 7 minutes then a game is going to take 15 minutes and it means only the win without additional games may take 150 minutes and we will have only 90 minutes of bad tries.

I predict it is not going to happen and I guess lenderman is going to reach only 5'+1''

Dragon is set to play quite a bit faster than necessary, partly to insure enough games in total. I would estimate that at 7' + 1" it will use under 5 minutes per game, not 7, allowing 110 minutes for "bad tries".

Mr. Kaufman, Where is the direct link to watch the match ?

Here is the first game ==> https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/11643892395

If you see on the bottom Alexander is winning 5 to 1 ==> https://www.chess.com/member/playkomodo

Can somebody explain to me how Komodo won this game, or is it because of the armageddon that the GM failed to win, therefore, Komodo Won ?
==> https://www.chess.com/game/live/1164745 ... playkomodo

Alex resigned games once he thought he had little chance to win; in one or two cases he might have been mistaken in that conclusion. He did better than we all expected to reach 2' + 1"; Komodo Dragon won overall by 17 to 15, but Alex was doing fine until he had to play Black with 3' + 1", which proved very difficult, although he eventually won a game that way. Looks like 4' + 1" was the break-even TC under the given conditions.

Mr. Kaufman, Can you post those two games where you believe that Alex resigned too prematurely so we can analyze them deep, using any top engine ? I truly believe that after you give a Knight odds to any GM rated above 2675, once he realized that the position is equal having the same or equal amount of time left, once Komodo Dragon level the position there is no reason to continue against an engine rated over 650 rating points above the GM

[Guenther]

Some moderation penalty on useless permanent full quoting would that help? ;)

This thread should be added to the internet-wiki, as a role model, how a troll lures another member into full quoting...

Watch the troll-barometer!

[Chessqueen]

Some moderation penalty on useless permanent full quoting would that help?

This thread should be added to the internet-wiki, as a role model, how a troll lures another member into full quoting...

Watch the troll-barometer!

What part of my post is considered to be trolling you meant when I posted this I truly believe that after you give a Knight odds to any GM rated 2675, once he realized that the position is equal having the same or equal amount of time left, once Komodo Dragon level the position there is no reason to continue against an engine rated 650 to 750 rating points above the GM

[lkaufman]

Alex resigned games once he thought he had little chance to win; in one or two cases he might have been mistaken in that conclusion. He did better than we all expected to reach 2' + 1"; Komodo Dragon won overall by 17 to 15, but Alex was doing fine until he had to play Black with 3' + 1", which proved very difficult, although he eventually won a game that way. Looks like 4' + 1" was the break-even TC under the given conditions.
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Mr. Kaufman, Can you post those two games where you believe that Alex resigned too prematurely so we can analyze them deep, using any top engine ? I truly believe that after you give a Knight odds to any GM rated above 2675, once he realized that the position is equal having the same or equal amount of time left, once Komodo Dragon level the position there is no reason to continue against an engine rated over 650 rating points above the GM
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One game he resigned with just rook vs rook since he didn't want to waste time playing fifty moves to claim a draw which wouldn't help him. Another he thought was going to be perpetual check but he had a move to keep +2 pawn advantage. Another he was still up knight for pawn but it was a bit messy. I can't remember all the cases of early resignation, it would take a lot of time to find them all. Of course if the position is truly about equal, then the GM will either lose or draw depending on whether it is still unclear or a fairly obviously drawn endgame or perpetual check.