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Any compositions like this?

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[d]k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1
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Re: Any compositions like this?

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Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:59 pm [d]k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1
Very funny again, dear Hobacle, but this time I'm aware (21st, not 1st of April :)), so it's much easier as for this one main point for humans (awareness), and of course getting approval from engines much easier makes one much more sure much sooner too.

SF MOJO (Modification Jörg Oster) with switched off Nullmove and Classical Eval after some Forward- Backward:

k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish-MOJO 281120:

1.Kh7 Rf7+ 2.g7 Rxg7+ 3.Kh8 Rh7+ 4.Kg8 Rg7+ 5.Kf8 Rg8+ 6.Kf7 Rf8+ 7.Kg7 Rf7+ 8.Kh6 Rf6+ 9.g6 Rxg6+ 10.Kh7 Rg7+ 11.Kh8 Rh7+ 12.Kg8 Rg7+ 13.Kf8 Rg8+ 14.Kf7 Rf8+ 15.Kg6 Rf6+ 16.Kh5 Rf5+ 17.g5 Rxg5+ 18.Kh6 Rg6+ 19.Kh7 Rg7+ 20.Kh8 Rh7+ 21.Kg8 Rg7+ 22.Kf8 Rg8+ 23.Kf7 Rf8+ 24.Kg6 Rf6+ 25.Kh5 Rf5+ 26.Kh4 Rf4+ 27.g4 Rxg4+ 28.Kh5 Rg5+ 29.Kh6 Rg6+ 30.Kh7 Rg7+ 31.Kh8 Rh7+ 32.Kg8 Rg7+ 33.Kf8 Rg8+ 34.Kf7 Rf8+ 35.Kg6 Rf6+ 36.Kg5 Rf5+ 37.Kh4 Rf4+ 38.g4 Rxg4+ 39.Kh5 Rg5+ 40.Kh6 Rg6+ 41.Kh7 Rg7+ 42.Kh8 Rh7+ 43.Kg8 Rg7+ 44.Kf8 Rg8+ 45.Kf7 Rf8+ 46.Kg6 Rf6+ 47.Kg5 Rf5+ 48.Kh4 Rf4+ 49.Kh3 Rf3+ 50.Ng3 Rxg3+ 51.Kh4 Rg4+ 52.Kh5 Rg5+ 53.Kh6 Rg6+ 54.Kh7 Rg7+ 55.Kh8 Rh7+ 56.Kg8 Rg7+ 57.Kf8 Rg8+ 58.Kf7 Rf8+ 59.Kg6 Rf6+ 60.Kg5 Rf5+ 61.Kh4 Rf4+ 62.Kg3 Rf3+ 63.Kh2 Rxf2+ 64.Ng2 Rxg2+ 65.Kh3 Rg3+ 66.Kh4 Rg4+ 67.Kh5 Rg5+ 68.Kh6 Rg6+ 69.Kh7 Rg7+ 70.Kh8 Rh7+ 71.Kg8 Rg7+ 72.Kf8 Rg8+ 73.Kf7 Rf8+ 74.Kg6 Rf6+ 75.Kg5 Rf5+ 76.Kh4 Rf4+ 77.Kg3 Rf3+ 78.Kh2 Rf2+ 79.Bg2 Rxg2+ 80.Kh3 Rg3+ 81.Kh4 Rg4+ 82.Kh5 Rg5+ 83.Kh6 Rg6+ 84.Kh7 Rg7+ 85.Kh8 Rh7+ 86.Kg8 Rg7+ 87.Kf8 Rg8+ 88.Kf7 Rf8+ 89.Kg6 Rf6+ 90.Kg5 Rf5+ 91.Kg4
+- (#123) Depth: 245/245 00:00:23 471MN

Second output at the end of first one's line:

k7/4R3/2P1Q3/1RB2r2/6K1/8/1P6/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish-MOJO 281120:

91...Rf4+ 92.Kh3 Rf3+ 93.Kh2 Rf2+ 94.Kh1 Rh2+ 95.Kg1 Rg2+ 96.Kf1 Rf2+ 97.Ke1 Re2+ 98.Kd1 Rd2+ 99.Kc1 Rc2+ 100.Kb1 Rxb2+ 101.Ka1 Rb1+ 102.Ka2 Rb2+ 103.Ka3 Rb3+ 104.Ka4 Ra3+ 105.Kb4 Ra4+ 106.Kc3 Rc4+ 107.Kd2 Rd4+ 108.Ke1 Re4+ 109.Kf1 Rf4+ 110.Bf2 Rxf2+ 111.Ke1 Re2+ 112.Kd1 Rd2+ 113.Kc1 Rc2+ 114.Kb1 Rb2+ 115.Ka1 Rb1+ 116.Ka2 Rb2+ 117.Ka3 Rb3+ 118.Ka4 Rb4+ 119.Ka5 Ra4+ 120.Kb6 Ra6+ 121.Kc5 Rb6 122.Qc8+ Rb8 123.Rxb8#
+- (#32) Depth: 174/64 00:00:00 1851kN
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Re: Any compositions like this?

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peter wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:17 pm
Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:59 pm [d]k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1
Very funny again, dear Hobacle, but this time I'm aware (21st, not 1st of April :)), so it's much easier as for this one main point for humans (awareness), and of course getting approval from engines much easier makes one much more sure much sooner too.

SF MOJO (Modification Jörg Oster) with switched off Nullmove and Classical Eval after some Forward- Backward:

k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish-MOJO 281120:

1.Kh7 Rf7+ 2.g7 Rxg7+ 3.Kh8 Rh7+ 4.Kg8 Rg7+ 5.Kf8 Rg8+ 6.Kf7 Rf8+ 7.Kg7 Rf7+ 8.Kh6 Rf6+ 9.g6 Rxg6+ 10.Kh7 Rg7+ 11.Kh8 Rh7+ 12.Kg8 Rg7+ 13.Kf8 Rg8+ 14.Kf7 Rf8+ 15.Kg6 Rf6+ 16.Kh5 Rf5+ 17.g5 Rxg5+ 18.Kh6 Rg6+ 19.Kh7 Rg7+ 20.Kh8 Rh7+ 21.Kg8 Rg7+ 22.Kf8 Rg8+ 23.Kf7 Rf8+ 24.Kg6 Rf6+ 25.Kh5 Rf5+ 26.Kh4 Rf4+ 27.g4 Rxg4+ 28.Kh5 Rg5+ 29.Kh6 Rg6+ 30.Kh7 Rg7+ 31.Kh8 Rh7+ 32.Kg8 Rg7+ 33.Kf8 Rg8+ 34.Kf7 Rf8+ 35.Kg6 Rf6+ 36.Kg5 Rf5+ 37.Kh4 Rf4+ 38.g4 Rxg4+ 39.Kh5 Rg5+ 40.Kh6 Rg6+ 41.Kh7 Rg7+ 42.Kh8 Rh7+ 43.Kg8 Rg7+ 44.Kf8 Rg8+ 45.Kf7 Rf8+ 46.Kg6 Rf6+ 47.Kg5 Rf5+ 48.Kh4 Rf4+ 49.Kh3 Rf3+ 50.Ng3 Rxg3+ 51.Kh4 Rg4+ 52.Kh5 Rg5+ 53.Kh6 Rg6+ 54.Kh7 Rg7+ 55.Kh8 Rh7+ 56.Kg8 Rg7+ 57.Kf8 Rg8+ 58.Kf7 Rf8+ 59.Kg6 Rf6+ 60.Kg5 Rf5+ 61.Kh4 Rf4+ 62.Kg3 Rf3+ 63.Kh2 Rxf2+ 64.Ng2 Rxg2+ 65.Kh3 Rg3+ 66.Kh4 Rg4+ 67.Kh5 Rg5+ 68.Kh6 Rg6+ 69.Kh7 Rg7+ 70.Kh8 Rh7+ 71.Kg8 Rg7+ 72.Kf8 Rg8+ 73.Kf7 Rf8+ 74.Kg6 Rf6+ 75.Kg5 Rf5+ 76.Kh4 Rf4+ 77.Kg3 Rf3+ 78.Kh2 Rf2+ 79.Bg2 Rxg2+ 80.Kh3 Rg3+ 81.Kh4 Rg4+ 82.Kh5 Rg5+ 83.Kh6 Rg6+ 84.Kh7 Rg7+ 85.Kh8 Rh7+ 86.Kg8 Rg7+ 87.Kf8 Rg8+ 88.Kf7 Rf8+ 89.Kg6 Rf6+ 90.Kg5 Rf5+ 91.Kg4
+- (#123) Depth: 245/245 00:00:23 471MN
I find the question more important than the one in my title is whether there's a puzzle SF MOJO cannot solve...
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Re: Any compositions like this?

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Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:25 pm
peter wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:17 pm
Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:59 pm [d]k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1
Very funny again, dear Hobacle, but this time I'm aware (21st, not 1st of April :)), so it's much easier as for this one main point for humans (awareness), and of course getting approval from engines much easier makes one much more sure much sooner too.

SF MOJO (Modification Jörg Oster) with switched off Nullmove and Classical Eval after some Forward- Backward:

k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish-MOJO 281120:

1.Kh7 Rf7+ 2.g7 Rxg7+ 3.Kh8 Rh7+ 4.Kg8 Rg7+ 5.Kf8 Rg8+ 6.Kf7 Rf8+ 7.Kg7 Rf7+ 8.Kh6 Rf6+ 9.g6 Rxg6+ 10.Kh7 Rg7+ 11.Kh8 Rh7+ 12.Kg8 Rg7+ 13.Kf8 Rg8+ 14.Kf7 Rf8+ 15.Kg6 Rf6+ 16.Kh5 Rf5+ 17.g5 Rxg5+ 18.Kh6 Rg6+ 19.Kh7 Rg7+ 20.Kh8 Rh7+ 21.Kg8 Rg7+ 22.Kf8 Rg8+ 23.Kf7 Rf8+ 24.Kg6 Rf6+ 25.Kh5 Rf5+ 26.Kh4 Rf4+ 27.g4 Rxg4+ 28.Kh5 Rg5+ 29.Kh6 Rg6+ 30.Kh7 Rg7+ 31.Kh8 Rh7+ 32.Kg8 Rg7+ 33.Kf8 Rg8+ 34.Kf7 Rf8+ 35.Kg6 Rf6+ 36.Kg5 Rf5+ 37.Kh4 Rf4+ 38.g4 Rxg4+ 39.Kh5 Rg5+ 40.Kh6 Rg6+ 41.Kh7 Rg7+ 42.Kh8 Rh7+ 43.Kg8 Rg7+ 44.Kf8 Rg8+ 45.Kf7 Rf8+ 46.Kg6 Rf6+ 47.Kg5 Rf5+ 48.Kh4 Rf4+ 49.Kh3 Rf3+ 50.Ng3 Rxg3+ 51.Kh4 Rg4+ 52.Kh5 Rg5+ 53.Kh6 Rg6+ 54.Kh7 Rg7+ 55.Kh8 Rh7+ 56.Kg8 Rg7+ 57.Kf8 Rg8+ 58.Kf7 Rf8+ 59.Kg6 Rf6+ 60.Kg5 Rf5+ 61.Kh4 Rf4+ 62.Kg3 Rf3+ 63.Kh2 Rxf2+ 64.Ng2 Rxg2+ 65.Kh3 Rg3+ 66.Kh4 Rg4+ 67.Kh5 Rg5+ 68.Kh6 Rg6+ 69.Kh7 Rg7+ 70.Kh8 Rh7+ 71.Kg8 Rg7+ 72.Kf8 Rg8+ 73.Kf7 Rf8+ 74.Kg6 Rf6+ 75.Kg5 Rf5+ 76.Kh4 Rf4+ 77.Kg3 Rf3+ 78.Kh2 Rf2+ 79.Bg2 Rxg2+ 80.Kh3 Rg3+ 81.Kh4 Rg4+ 82.Kh5 Rg5+ 83.Kh6 Rg6+ 84.Kh7 Rg7+ 85.Kh8 Rh7+ 86.Kg8 Rg7+ 87.Kf8 Rg8+ 88.Kf7 Rf8+ 89.Kg6 Rf6+ 90.Kg5 Rf5+ 91.Kg4
+- (#123) Depth: 245/245 00:00:23 471MN
I find the question more important than the one in my title is whether there's a puzzle SF MOJO cannot solve...
Whether there's a puzzle SF MOJO cannot solve ? After it solve this position. Please, give this one to SF MOJO to solve, White to move and MATE in 102 :roll:


[d]1krr1b2/2pPpKp1/2P1P1Pp/2PpPp2/5p1R/8/3p4/8 w - - 0 1
Last edited by Chessqueen on Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:51 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Do NOT worry and be happy, we all live a short life :roll:
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Re: Any compositions like this?

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Chessqueen wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:30 pm
Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:25 pm
peter wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:17 pm
Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:59 pm [d]k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1
Very funny again, dear Hobacle, but this time I'm aware (21st, not 1st of April :)), so it's much easier as for this one main point for humans (awareness), and of course getting approval from engines much easier makes one much more sure much sooner too.

SF MOJO (Modification Jörg Oster) with switched off Nullmove and Classical Eval after some Forward- Backward:

k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish-MOJO 281120:

1.Kh7 Rf7+ 2.g7 Rxg7+ 3.Kh8 Rh7+ 4.Kg8 Rg7+ 5.Kf8 Rg8+ 6.Kf7 Rf8+ 7.Kg7 Rf7+ 8.Kh6 Rf6+ 9.g6 Rxg6+ 10.Kh7 Rg7+ 11.Kh8 Rh7+ 12.Kg8 Rg7+ 13.Kf8 Rg8+ 14.Kf7 Rf8+ 15.Kg6 Rf6+ 16.Kh5 Rf5+ 17.g5 Rxg5+ 18.Kh6 Rg6+ 19.Kh7 Rg7+ 20.Kh8 Rh7+ 21.Kg8 Rg7+ 22.Kf8 Rg8+ 23.Kf7 Rf8+ 24.Kg6 Rf6+ 25.Kh5 Rf5+ 26.Kh4 Rf4+ 27.g4 Rxg4+ 28.Kh5 Rg5+ 29.Kh6 Rg6+ 30.Kh7 Rg7+ 31.Kh8 Rh7+ 32.Kg8 Rg7+ 33.Kf8 Rg8+ 34.Kf7 Rf8+ 35.Kg6 Rf6+ 36.Kg5 Rf5+ 37.Kh4 Rf4+ 38.g4 Rxg4+ 39.Kh5 Rg5+ 40.Kh6 Rg6+ 41.Kh7 Rg7+ 42.Kh8 Rh7+ 43.Kg8 Rg7+ 44.Kf8 Rg8+ 45.Kf7 Rf8+ 46.Kg6 Rf6+ 47.Kg5 Rf5+ 48.Kh4 Rf4+ 49.Kh3 Rf3+ 50.Ng3 Rxg3+ 51.Kh4 Rg4+ 52.Kh5 Rg5+ 53.Kh6 Rg6+ 54.Kh7 Rg7+ 55.Kh8 Rh7+ 56.Kg8 Rg7+ 57.Kf8 Rg8+ 58.Kf7 Rf8+ 59.Kg6 Rf6+ 60.Kg5 Rf5+ 61.Kh4 Rf4+ 62.Kg3 Rf3+ 63.Kh2 Rxf2+ 64.Ng2 Rxg2+ 65.Kh3 Rg3+ 66.Kh4 Rg4+ 67.Kh5 Rg5+ 68.Kh6 Rg6+ 69.Kh7 Rg7+ 70.Kh8 Rh7+ 71.Kg8 Rg7+ 72.Kf8 Rg8+ 73.Kf7 Rf8+ 74.Kg6 Rf6+ 75.Kg5 Rf5+ 76.Kh4 Rf4+ 77.Kg3 Rf3+ 78.Kh2 Rf2+ 79.Bg2 Rxg2+ 80.Kh3 Rg3+ 81.Kh4 Rg4+ 82.Kh5 Rg5+ 83.Kh6 Rg6+ 84.Kh7 Rg7+ 85.Kh8 Rh7+ 86.Kg8 Rg7+ 87.Kf8 Rg8+ 88.Kf7 Rf8+ 89.Kg6 Rf6+ 90.Kg5 Rf5+ 91.Kg4
+- (#123) Depth: 245/245 00:00:23 471MN
I find the question more important than the one in my title is whether there's a puzzle SF MOJO cannot solve...
Please, give this one to SF MOJO to solve, White to move and MATE in 102 :roll:


[d]1krr1b2/2pPpKp1/2P1P1Pp/2PpPp2/5p1R/8/3p4/8 w - - 0 1
I've just found this famous puzzle not legal. It's easy to correct but I'm not sure about...
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Re: Any compositions like this?

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Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:25 pm I find the question more important than the one in my title is whether there's a puzzle SF MOJO cannot solve...
:)
Sorry, but as I wrote, output comes with full hash after fome Forward- Backward, DTM wouldn't have arisen soon (maybe not even a proving output- line at all) otherwise probably, didn't wait long enough to find out.
But anyhow this one's much easier for engines than April 1st's one, much less unforced lines and Zugzwang- maneuvres much less deep (plies away from knot- positions).
BTW, did you publicise this one or April 1st's one already in any journal or competition?

Even if I'm not a judge, at least first one's might have good chances for a good award regards
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Re: Any compositions like this?

Post by Chessqueen »

Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:46 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:30 pm
Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:25 pm
peter wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:17 pm
Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:59 pm [d]k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1
Very funny again, dear Hobacle, but this time I'm aware (21st, not 1st of April :)), so it's much easier as for this one main point for humans (awareness), and of course getting approval from engines much easier makes one much more sure much sooner too.

SF MOJO (Modification Jörg Oster) with switched off Nullmove and Classical Eval after some Forward- Backward:

k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish-MOJO 281120:

1.Kh7 Rf7+ 2.g7 Rxg7+ 3.Kh8 Rh7+ 4.Kg8 Rg7+ 5.Kf8 Rg8+ 6.Kf7 Rf8+ 7.Kg7 Rf7+ 8.Kh6 Rf6+ 9.g6 Rxg6+ 10.Kh7 Rg7+ 11.Kh8 Rh7+ 12.Kg8 Rg7+ 13.Kf8 Rg8+ 14.Kf7 Rf8+ 15.Kg6 Rf6+ 16.Kh5 Rf5+ 17.g5 Rxg5+ 18.Kh6 Rg6+ 19.Kh7 Rg7+ 20.Kh8 Rh7+ 21.Kg8 Rg7+ 22.Kf8 Rg8+ 23.Kf7 Rf8+ 24.Kg6 Rf6+ 25.Kh5 Rf5+ 26.Kh4 Rf4+ 27.g4 Rxg4+ 28.Kh5 Rg5+ 29.Kh6 Rg6+ 30.Kh7 Rg7+ 31.Kh8 Rh7+ 32.Kg8 Rg7+ 33.Kf8 Rg8+ 34.Kf7 Rf8+ 35.Kg6 Rf6+ 36.Kg5 Rf5+ 37.Kh4 Rf4+ 38.g4 Rxg4+ 39.Kh5 Rg5+ 40.Kh6 Rg6+ 41.Kh7 Rg7+ 42.Kh8 Rh7+ 43.Kg8 Rg7+ 44.Kf8 Rg8+ 45.Kf7 Rf8+ 46.Kg6 Rf6+ 47.Kg5 Rf5+ 48.Kh4 Rf4+ 49.Kh3 Rf3+ 50.Ng3 Rxg3+ 51.Kh4 Rg4+ 52.Kh5 Rg5+ 53.Kh6 Rg6+ 54.Kh7 Rg7+ 55.Kh8 Rh7+ 56.Kg8 Rg7+ 57.Kf8 Rg8+ 58.Kf7 Rf8+ 59.Kg6 Rf6+ 60.Kg5 Rf5+ 61.Kh4 Rf4+ 62.Kg3 Rf3+ 63.Kh2 Rxf2+ 64.Ng2 Rxg2+ 65.Kh3 Rg3+ 66.Kh4 Rg4+ 67.Kh5 Rg5+ 68.Kh6 Rg6+ 69.Kh7 Rg7+ 70.Kh8 Rh7+ 71.Kg8 Rg7+ 72.Kf8 Rg8+ 73.Kf7 Rf8+ 74.Kg6 Rf6+ 75.Kg5 Rf5+ 76.Kh4 Rf4+ 77.Kg3 Rf3+ 78.Kh2 Rf2+ 79.Bg2 Rxg2+ 80.Kh3 Rg3+ 81.Kh4 Rg4+ 82.Kh5 Rg5+ 83.Kh6 Rg6+ 84.Kh7 Rg7+ 85.Kh8 Rh7+ 86.Kg8 Rg7+ 87.Kf8 Rg8+ 88.Kf7 Rf8+ 89.Kg6 Rf6+ 90.Kg5 Rf5+ 91.Kg4
+- (#123) Depth: 245/245 00:00:23 471MN
I find the question more important than the one in my title is whether there's a puzzle SF MOJO cannot solve...
Please, give this one to SF MOJO to solve, White to move and MATE in 102 :roll:


[d]1krr1b2/2pPpKp1/2P1P1Pp/2PpPp2/5p1R/8/3p4/8 w - - 0 1
I've just found this famous puzzle not legal. It's easy to correct but I'm not sure about...
It is legal, but too hard to solve for any engine that is NOT programmed with the triangulation method of wasting waiting moves :mrgreen:
Do NOT worry and be happy, we all live a short life :roll:
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Re: Any compositions like this?

Post by Hobacle »

Chessqueen wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:53 pm
Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:46 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:30 pm
Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:25 pm
peter wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:17 pm
Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:59 pm [d]k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1
Very funny again, dear Hobacle, but this time I'm aware (21st, not 1st of April :)), so it's much easier as for this one main point for humans (awareness), and of course getting approval from engines much easier makes one much more sure much sooner too.

SF MOJO (Modification Jörg Oster) with switched off Nullmove and Classical Eval after some Forward- Backward:

k4rK1/4R3/2P1Q1P1/1RBB2P1/6P1/6P1/1P3PP1/4NN2 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Stockfish-MOJO 281120:

1.Kh7 Rf7+ 2.g7 Rxg7+ 3.Kh8 Rh7+ 4.Kg8 Rg7+ 5.Kf8 Rg8+ 6.Kf7 Rf8+ 7.Kg7 Rf7+ 8.Kh6 Rf6+ 9.g6 Rxg6+ 10.Kh7 Rg7+ 11.Kh8 Rh7+ 12.Kg8 Rg7+ 13.Kf8 Rg8+ 14.Kf7 Rf8+ 15.Kg6 Rf6+ 16.Kh5 Rf5+ 17.g5 Rxg5+ 18.Kh6 Rg6+ 19.Kh7 Rg7+ 20.Kh8 Rh7+ 21.Kg8 Rg7+ 22.Kf8 Rg8+ 23.Kf7 Rf8+ 24.Kg6 Rf6+ 25.Kh5 Rf5+ 26.Kh4 Rf4+ 27.g4 Rxg4+ 28.Kh5 Rg5+ 29.Kh6 Rg6+ 30.Kh7 Rg7+ 31.Kh8 Rh7+ 32.Kg8 Rg7+ 33.Kf8 Rg8+ 34.Kf7 Rf8+ 35.Kg6 Rf6+ 36.Kg5 Rf5+ 37.Kh4 Rf4+ 38.g4 Rxg4+ 39.Kh5 Rg5+ 40.Kh6 Rg6+ 41.Kh7 Rg7+ 42.Kh8 Rh7+ 43.Kg8 Rg7+ 44.Kf8 Rg8+ 45.Kf7 Rf8+ 46.Kg6 Rf6+ 47.Kg5 Rf5+ 48.Kh4 Rf4+ 49.Kh3 Rf3+ 50.Ng3 Rxg3+ 51.Kh4 Rg4+ 52.Kh5 Rg5+ 53.Kh6 Rg6+ 54.Kh7 Rg7+ 55.Kh8 Rh7+ 56.Kg8 Rg7+ 57.Kf8 Rg8+ 58.Kf7 Rf8+ 59.Kg6 Rf6+ 60.Kg5 Rf5+ 61.Kh4 Rf4+ 62.Kg3 Rf3+ 63.Kh2 Rxf2+ 64.Ng2 Rxg2+ 65.Kh3 Rg3+ 66.Kh4 Rg4+ 67.Kh5 Rg5+ 68.Kh6 Rg6+ 69.Kh7 Rg7+ 70.Kh8 Rh7+ 71.Kg8 Rg7+ 72.Kf8 Rg8+ 73.Kf7 Rf8+ 74.Kg6 Rf6+ 75.Kg5 Rf5+ 76.Kh4 Rf4+ 77.Kg3 Rf3+ 78.Kh2 Rf2+ 79.Bg2 Rxg2+ 80.Kh3 Rg3+ 81.Kh4 Rg4+ 82.Kh5 Rg5+ 83.Kh6 Rg6+ 84.Kh7 Rg7+ 85.Kh8 Rh7+ 86.Kg8 Rg7+ 87.Kf8 Rg8+ 88.Kf7 Rf8+ 89.Kg6 Rf6+ 90.Kg5 Rf5+ 91.Kg4
+- (#123) Depth: 245/245 00:00:23 471MN
I find the question more important than the one in my title is whether there's a puzzle SF MOJO cannot solve...
Please, give this one to SF MOJO to solve, White to move and MATE in 102 :roll:


[d]1krr1b2/2pPpKp1/2P1P1Pp/2PpPp2/5p1R/8/3p4/8 w - - 0 1
I've just found this famous puzzle not legal. It's easy to correct but I'm not sure about...
It is legal, but too hard to solve for any engine that is NOT programmed with the triangulation method of wasting waiting moves :mrgreen:
I'm not sure whether plenty of people can understand me. The black rooks.
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Re: Any compositions like this?

Post by peter »

Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:08 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:53 pm It is legal, but too hard to solve for any engine that is NOT programmed with the triangulation method of wasting waiting moves :mrgreen:
I'm not sure whether plenty of people can understand me.
You're right, a second one black Pawn can't have come to f4 legally.

Anyhow, it's some easier even as your second one from today, not for engines, but for humans, at least for those who saw some of O.Blathy's other great puzzles before regards
:)
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Re: Any compositions like this?

Post by Hobacle »

peter wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:21 pm
Hobacle wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:08 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:53 pm It is legal, but too hard to solve for any engine that is NOT programmed with the triangulation method of wasting waiting moves :mrgreen:
I'm not sure whether plenty of people can understand me.
You're right, a second one black pawn can't have come to f4 legally.

Anyhow, it's some easier even as you second one from today, not for engines, but for humans, at least for those who saw some of O.Blathy's great puzzles before regards
:)
NO! NO! NO! What I wanted to say is not about the f4 pawn. a-d b-d d-f

But the two black rooks!!!

O.B. couldn't be so careless. The h4 pawn must be in h5 in the original position but someone stupid moved it later.
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