Dragon Vs Jose Santana rated 2420 at Knight Odds via Skype

[Chessqueen]

At the moment this is the progress of the game and tomorrow I agree to play another Knight Odds via Skype, If he win I agree to pay him $50.00 which is more than a pay day in the Dominican Republic and for a Draw $25.00. I will post again at the end of this game which is in progress

[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. e3 O-O 8.
Bd3 h6 9. Bh4 Na6 10. Qe2 Re8 11. O-O Nc7 12. Rae1 a6 13. Qd1 Nb5 14. f3
Qc7 15. Ne2 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 g5 17. Bf2 Bd6 18. a4 Na7 19. Nc3 Be6 20. e4 Nh5
21. e5 Bf8 22. g3 f5 23. Kg2 c5 24. Rh1 cxd4 25. Ne2 Qf7 26. f4 gxf4 27.
gxf4 Qg6+ 28. Kh3 Qg4+ 29. Kh2 Qf3 30. Reg1+ Kh8 31. Be1 Nxf4 32. Rg3 Qh5+
33. Kg1 Nxe2+ 34. Bxe2 Qf7 35. Bh5 Qc7 36. Bxe8 Rxe8 37. Rxh6+ Bxh6 38. Qh5
Rg8 39. Qxh6+ Qh7 {+0.50/1} 40. Qxe6 Rxg3+[/pgn]

[Chessqueen]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00 ==> I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw tomorrow just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics . I use a mere intel i7 3.40 GHz with 1 core (Not all my 4 core), NO MCTS and Contempt = 100. Since I am not sure if using 4 cores is better or NOT, I will play tomorrow game with the same settings. I wonder if using a single intel core i9-10900X at 4.7 GHz https://idealcpu.com/best-single-core-performance-cpus/ Dragon2 can gain an extra 15 to 20 Elo with Knight Odds ?

[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. e3 O-O 8.
Bd3 h6 9. Bh4 Na6 10. Qe2 Re8 11. O-O Nc7 12. Rae1 a6 13. Qd1 Nb5 14. f3
Qc7 15. Ne2 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 g5 17. Bf2 Bd6 18. a4 Na7 19. Nc3 Be6 20. e4 Nh5
21. e5 Bf8 22. g3 f5 23. Kg2 c5 24. Rh1 cxd4 25. Ne2 Qf7 26. f4 gxf4 27.
gxf4 Qg6+ 28. Kh3 Qg4+ 29. Kh2 Qf3 30. Reg1+ Kh8 31. Be1 Nxf4 32. Rg3 Qh5+
33. Kg1 Nxe2+ 34. Bxe2 Qf7 35. Bh5 Qc7 36. Bxe8 Rxe8 37. Rxh6+ Bxh6 38. Qh5
Rg8 39. Qxh6+ Qh7 40. Qxe6 Rxg3+ 41. Bxg3 Nc6 42. Kf2 Ne7 43. Qf6+ Qg7 44.
Bh4 Nc6 45. Qxf5 Nxe5 46. Bg3 Ng4+ 47. Ke2 Nh6 48. Qf3 d3+ 49. Kxd3 Qxb2
50. Qf8+ Kh7 51. Bf4 Qb3+ 52. Kd2 Qa2+ 53. Kc3 d4+ 54. Kd3 Qb3+ 55. Kxd4
Qxa4+ 56. Kc3 Qc6+ 57. Kb4 Qb5+ 58. Ka3 Nf5 59. Qf7+ Ng7 60. Qf6 Qf5 61.
Qxf5+ Nxf5 62. Kb4 Ne7 63. Kc5 Nc8 64. Kd5 Kg6 65. Ke6 b6 66. Be3 a5 67.
Bc1 a4 68. Ke5 Kf7 69. Kd5 Kf6 70. Kc6 Ke5 71. Bb2+ Ke4 72. Kb5 Kd3 73.
Kxa4 Kc4 74. Bf6 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[lkaufman]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00 ==> I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw tomorrow just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics . I use a mere intel i7 3.40 GHz with 1 core (Not all my 4 core), NO MCTS and Contempt = 100. Since I am not sure if using 4 cores is better or NOT, I will play tomorrow game with the same settings. I wonder if using a single intel core i9-10900X at 4.7 GHz https://idealcpu.com/best-single-core-performance-cpus/ Dragon2 can gain an extra 15 to 20 Elo with Knight Odds ?

[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. e3 O-O 8.
Bd3 h6 9. Bh4 Na6 10. Qe2 Re8 11. O-O Nc7 12. Rae1 a6 13. Qd1 Nb5 14. f3
Qc7 15. Ne2 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 g5 17. Bf2 Bd6 18. a4 Na7 19. Nc3 Be6 20. e4 Nh5
21. e5 Bf8 22. g3 f5 23. Kg2 c5 24. Rh1 cxd4 25. Ne2 Qf7 26. f4 gxf4 27.
gxf4 Qg6+ 28. Kh3 Qg4+ 29. Kh2 Qf3 30. Reg1+ Kh8 31. Be1 Nxf4 32. Rg3 Qh5+
33. Kg1 Nxe2+ 34. Bxe2 Qf7 35. Bh5 Qc7 36. Bxe8 Rxe8 37. Rxh6+ Bxh6 38. Qh5
Rg8 39. Qxh6+ Qh7 40. Qxe6 Rxg3+ 41. Bxg3 Nc6 42. Kf2 Ne7 43. Qf6+ Qg7 44.
Bh4 Nc6 45. Qxf5 Nxe5 46. Bg3 Ng4+ 47. Ke2 Nh6 48. Qf3 d3+ 49. Kxd3 Qxb2
50. Qf8+ Kh7 51. Bf4 Qb3+ 52. Kd2 Qa2+ 53. Kc3 d4+ 54. Kd3 Qb3+ 55. Kxd4
Qxa4+ 56. Kc3 Qc6+ 57. Kb4 Qb5+ 58. Ka3 Nf5 59. Qf7+ Ng7 60. Qf6 Qf5 61.
Qxf5+ Nxf5 62. Kb4 Ne7 63. Kc5 Nc8 64. Kd5 Kg6 65. Ke6 b6 66. Be3 a5 67.
Bc1 a4 68. Ke5 Kf7 69. Kd5 Kf6 70. Kc6 Ke5 71. Bb2+ Ke4 72. Kb5 Kd3 73.
Kxa4 Kc4 74. Bf6 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

The answer is no. Anything beyond about 22 plies hurts your chances, and I'm sure you are getting more than 22 plies even on one thread at this time control. If you set Dragon to play 10' + 5" while he still plays 30' + 10" you will increase your odds of winning!

[Chessqueen]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00 ==> I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw tomorrow just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics . I use a mere intel i7 3.40 GHz with 1 core (Not all my 4 core), NO MCTS and Contempt = 100. Since I am not sure if using 4 cores is better or NOT, I will play tomorrow game with the same settings. I wonder if using a single intel core i9-10900X at 4.7 GHz https://idealcpu.com/best-single-core-performance-cpus/ Dragon2 can gain an extra 15 to 20 Elo with Knight Odds ?

[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. e3 O-O 8.
Bd3 h6 9. Bh4 Na6 10. Qe2 Re8 11. O-O Nc7 12. Rae1 a6 13. Qd1 Nb5 14. f3
Qc7 15. Ne2 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 g5 17. Bf2 Bd6 18. a4 Na7 19. Nc3 Be6 20. e4 Nh5
21. e5 Bf8 22. g3 f5 23. Kg2 c5 24. Rh1 cxd4 25. Ne2 Qf7 26. f4 gxf4 27.
gxf4 Qg6+ 28. Kh3 Qg4+ 29. Kh2 Qf3 30. Reg1+ Kh8 31. Be1 Nxf4 32. Rg3 Qh5+
33. Kg1 Nxe2+ 34. Bxe2 Qf7 35. Bh5 Qc7 36. Bxe8 Rxe8 37. Rxh6+ Bxh6 38. Qh5
Rg8 39. Qxh6+ Qh7 40. Qxe6 Rxg3+ 41. Bxg3 Nc6 42. Kf2 Ne7 43. Qf6+ Qg7 44.
Bh4 Nc6 45. Qxf5 Nxe5 46. Bg3 Ng4+ 47. Ke2 Nh6 48. Qf3 d3+ 49. Kxd3 Qxb2
50. Qf8+ Kh7 51. Bf4 Qb3+ 52. Kd2 Qa2+ 53. Kc3 d4+ 54. Kd3 Qb3+ 55. Kxd4
Qxa4+ 56. Kc3 Qc6+ 57. Kb4 Qb5+ 58. Ka3 Nf5 59. Qf7+ Ng7 60. Qf6 Qf5 61.
Qxf5+ Nxf5 62. Kb4 Ne7 63. Kc5 Nc8 64. Kd5 Kg6 65. Ke6 b6 66. Be3 a5 67.
Bc1 a4 68. Ke5 Kf7 69. Kd5 Kf6 70. Kc6 Ke5 71. Bb2+ Ke4 72. Kb5 Kd3 73.
Kxa4 Kc4 74. Bf6 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

The answer is no. Anything beyond about 22 plies hurts your chances, and I'm sure you are getting more than 22 plies even on one thread at this time control. If you set Dragon to play 10' + 5" while he still plays 30' + 10" you will increase your odds of winning!

In that case I will use my daughter Lenovo M73Z All in One i3 Computer that I purchased 4 years ago similar to this one that they are selling as a refurbished for only $175.00 but when I got my daughter this all in one it was about $690.00. https://discountelectronics.com/lenovo- ... C4QAvD_BwE I just did some test and I am getting 22 plies at TC 30'+10" since he prefer to play another game at the same time control and I do NOT know what GUI let me set Dragon2 for 10'+5" and for him at 30'+10" without telling me that he lost on time.

[lkaufman]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00 ==> I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw tomorrow just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics . I use a mere intel i7 3.40 GHz with 1 core (Not all my 4 core), NO MCTS and Contempt = 100. Since I am not sure if using 4 cores is better or NOT, I will play tomorrow game with the same settings. I wonder if using a single intel core i9-10900X at 4.7 GHz https://idealcpu.com/best-single-core-performance-cpus/ Dragon2 can gain an extra 15 to 20 Elo with Knight Odds ?

[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. e3 O-O 8.
Bd3 h6 9. Bh4 Na6 10. Qe2 Re8 11. O-O Nc7 12. Rae1 a6 13. Qd1 Nb5 14. f3
Qc7 15. Ne2 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 g5 17. Bf2 Bd6 18. a4 Na7 19. Nc3 Be6 20. e4 Nh5
21. e5 Bf8 22. g3 f5 23. Kg2 c5 24. Rh1 cxd4 25. Ne2 Qf7 26. f4 gxf4 27.
gxf4 Qg6+ 28. Kh3 Qg4+ 29. Kh2 Qf3 30. Reg1+ Kh8 31. Be1 Nxf4 32. Rg3 Qh5+
33. Kg1 Nxe2+ 34. Bxe2 Qf7 35. Bh5 Qc7 36. Bxe8 Rxe8 37. Rxh6+ Bxh6 38. Qh5
Rg8 39. Qxh6+ Qh7 40. Qxe6 Rxg3+ 41. Bxg3 Nc6 42. Kf2 Ne7 43. Qf6+ Qg7 44.
Bh4 Nc6 45. Qxf5 Nxe5 46. Bg3 Ng4+ 47. Ke2 Nh6 48. Qf3 d3+ 49. Kxd3 Qxb2
50. Qf8+ Kh7 51. Bf4 Qb3+ 52. Kd2 Qa2+ 53. Kc3 d4+ 54. Kd3 Qb3+ 55. Kxd4
Qxa4+ 56. Kc3 Qc6+ 57. Kb4 Qb5+ 58. Ka3 Nf5 59. Qf7+ Ng7 60. Qf6 Qf5 61.
Qxf5+ Nxf5 62. Kb4 Ne7 63. Kc5 Nc8 64. Kd5 Kg6 65. Ke6 b6 66. Be3 a5 67.
Bc1 a4 68. Ke5 Kf7 69. Kd5 Kf6 70. Kc6 Ke5 71. Bb2+ Ke4 72. Kb5 Kd3 73.
Kxa4 Kc4 74. Bf6 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

The answer is no. Anything beyond about 22 plies hurts your chances, and I'm sure you are getting more than 22 plies even on one thread at this time control. If you set Dragon to play 10' + 5" while he still plays 30' + 10" you will increase your odds of winning!

In that case I will use my daughter Lenovo M73Z All in One i3 Computer that I purchased 4 years ago similar to this one that they are selling as a refurbished for only $175.00 but when I got my daughter this all in one it was about $690.00. https://discountelectronics.com/lenovo- ... C4QAvD_BwE I just did some test and I am getting 22 plies at TC 30'+10" since he prefer to play another game at the same time control and I do NOT know what GUI let me set Dragon2 for 10'+5" and for him at 30'+10" without telling me that he lost on time.

Any of the ChessBase/Fritz GUIs should do this, you just set the time limit to the shorter one and give the human the extra time needed (20' + 5" extra in this case). The advantage is that this gives him less ponder time.

[Chessqueen]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00 ==> I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw tomorrow just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics . I use a mere intel i7 3.40 GHz with 1 core (Not all my 4 core), NO MCTS and Contempt = 100. Since I am not sure if using 4 cores is better or NOT, I will play tomorrow game with the same settings. I wonder if using a single intel core i9-10900X at 4.7 GHz https://idealcpu.com/best-single-core-performance-cpus/ Dragon2 can gain an extra 15 to 20 Elo with Knight Odds ?

[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. e3 O-O 8.
Bd3 h6 9. Bh4 Na6 10. Qe2 Re8 11. O-O Nc7 12. Rae1 a6 13. Qd1 Nb5 14. f3
Qc7 15. Ne2 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 g5 17. Bf2 Bd6 18. a4 Na7 19. Nc3 Be6 20. e4 Nh5
21. e5 Bf8 22. g3 f5 23. Kg2 c5 24. Rh1 cxd4 25. Ne2 Qf7 26. f4 gxf4 27.
gxf4 Qg6+ 28. Kh3 Qg4+ 29. Kh2 Qf3 30. Reg1+ Kh8 31. Be1 Nxf4 32. Rg3 Qh5+
33. Kg1 Nxe2+ 34. Bxe2 Qf7 35. Bh5 Qc7 36. Bxe8 Rxe8 37. Rxh6+ Bxh6 38. Qh5
Rg8 39. Qxh6+ Qh7 40. Qxe6 Rxg3+ 41. Bxg3 Nc6 42. Kf2 Ne7 43. Qf6+ Qg7 44.
Bh4 Nc6 45. Qxf5 Nxe5 46. Bg3 Ng4+ 47. Ke2 Nh6 48. Qf3 d3+ 49. Kxd3 Qxb2
50. Qf8+ Kh7 51. Bf4 Qb3+ 52. Kd2 Qa2+ 53. Kc3 d4+ 54. Kd3 Qb3+ 55. Kxd4
Qxa4+ 56. Kc3 Qc6+ 57. Kb4 Qb5+ 58. Ka3 Nf5 59. Qf7+ Ng7 60. Qf6 Qf5 61.
Qxf5+ Nxf5 62. Kb4 Ne7 63. Kc5 Nc8 64. Kd5 Kg6 65. Ke6 b6 66. Be3 a5 67.
Bc1 a4 68. Ke5 Kf7 69. Kd5 Kf6 70. Kc6 Ke5 71. Bb2+ Ke4 72. Kb5 Kd3 73.
Kxa4 Kc4 74. Bf6 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

The answer is no. Anything beyond about 22 plies hurts your chances, and I'm sure you are getting more than 22 plies even on one thread at this time control. If you set Dragon to play 10' + 5" while he still plays 30' + 10" you will increase your odds of winning!

In that case I will use my daughter Lenovo M73Z All in One i3 Computer that I purchased 4 years ago similar to this one that they are selling as a refurbished for only $175.00 but when I got my daughter this all in one it was about $690.00. https://discountelectronics.com/lenovo- ... C4QAvD_BwE I just did some test and I am getting 22 plies at TC 30'+10" since he prefer to play another game at the same time control and I do NOT know what GUI let me set Dragon2 for 10'+5" and for him at 30'+10" without telling me that he lost on time.

Any of the ChessBase/Fritz GUIs should do this, you just set the time limit to the shorter one and give the human the extra time needed (20' + 5" extra in this case). The advantage is that this gives him less ponder time.

Is the Depth = twice the plies (Depth=22 equal to 22 plies) ? If that is the case I can use Shredder GUI and set the depth = 22 for Dragon2 using TC 15'+10"

The brute-force ply depth is indeed half the publicized depth. All the rest are extensions (in conventional terminology, I don't think of them this way). If you set Dragon2 to depth 22, e.g., then you should be able to find a 22-ply combination where it fails. If I am doing a good job, then you should have a hard time finding one. The question of what this is equivalent to in terms of other programs, e.g. a null-mover with "standard" extensions is interesting, but I don't know the answer. At TC 30'+10" in the middlegame Dragon2 typically gets 20-22 depths in my daughter's Lenovo M73Z old intel i3 computer and it looks competitive tactically.

[lkaufman]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00 ==> I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw tomorrow just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics . I use a mere intel i7 3.40 GHz with 1 core (Not all my 4 core), NO MCTS and Contempt = 100. Since I am not sure if using 4 cores is better or NOT, I will play tomorrow game with the same settings. I wonder if using a single intel core i9-10900X at 4.7 GHz https://idealcpu.com/best-single-core-performance-cpus/ Dragon2 can gain an extra 15 to 20 Elo with Knight Odds ?

[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. e3 O-O 8.
Bd3 h6 9. Bh4 Na6 10. Qe2 Re8 11. O-O Nc7 12. Rae1 a6 13. Qd1 Nb5 14. f3
Qc7 15. Ne2 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 g5 17. Bf2 Bd6 18. a4 Na7 19. Nc3 Be6 20. e4 Nh5
21. e5 Bf8 22. g3 f5 23. Kg2 c5 24. Rh1 cxd4 25. Ne2 Qf7 26. f4 gxf4 27.
gxf4 Qg6+ 28. Kh3 Qg4+ 29. Kh2 Qf3 30. Reg1+ Kh8 31. Be1 Nxf4 32. Rg3 Qh5+
33. Kg1 Nxe2+ 34. Bxe2 Qf7 35. Bh5 Qc7 36. Bxe8 Rxe8 37. Rxh6+ Bxh6 38. Qh5
Rg8 39. Qxh6+ Qh7 40. Qxe6 Rxg3+ 41. Bxg3 Nc6 42. Kf2 Ne7 43. Qf6+ Qg7 44.
Bh4 Nc6 45. Qxf5 Nxe5 46. Bg3 Ng4+ 47. Ke2 Nh6 48. Qf3 d3+ 49. Kxd3 Qxb2
50. Qf8+ Kh7 51. Bf4 Qb3+ 52. Kd2 Qa2+ 53. Kc3 d4+ 54. Kd3 Qb3+ 55. Kxd4
Qxa4+ 56. Kc3 Qc6+ 57. Kb4 Qb5+ 58. Ka3 Nf5 59. Qf7+ Ng7 60. Qf6 Qf5 61.
Qxf5+ Nxf5 62. Kb4 Ne7 63. Kc5 Nc8 64. Kd5 Kg6 65. Ke6 b6 66. Be3 a5 67.
Bc1 a4 68. Ke5 Kf7 69. Kd5 Kf6 70. Kc6 Ke5 71. Bb2+ Ke4 72. Kb5 Kd3 73.
Kxa4 Kc4 74. Bf6 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

The answer is no. Anything beyond about 22 plies hurts your chances, and I'm sure you are getting more than 22 plies even on one thread at this time control. If you set Dragon to play 10' + 5" while he still plays 30' + 10" you will increase your odds of winning!

In that case I will use my daughter Lenovo M73Z All in One i3 Computer that I purchased 4 years ago similar to this one that they are selling as a refurbished for only $175.00 but when I got my daughter this all in one it was about $690.00. https://discountelectronics.com/lenovo- ... C4QAvD_BwE I just did some test and I am getting 22 plies at TC 30'+10" since he prefer to play another game at the same time control and I do NOT know what GUI let me set Dragon2 for 10'+5" and for him at 30'+10" without telling me that he lost on time.

Any of the ChessBase/Fritz GUIs should do this, you just set the time limit to the shorter one and give the human the extra time needed (20' + 5" extra in this case). The advantage is that this gives him less ponder time.

Is the Depth = to the plies (Depth=22 equal to 22 plies) ? If that is the case I can use Shredder GUI and set the depth = 22 for Dragon2 using TC 10'+5"

Yes, that's right, you should be able to set Depth = 22 as well as the 15' + 10" time control with both working properly. If you do set depth to 22 you can also restore Threads to four to speed up the engine's play; it will also maybe add half a ply or so to the quality, which probably won't help or hurt measurably. It will just reduce the opponent's ponder time. Check it out in a game with yourself first just to make sure this works properly in your GUI.

[Chessqueen]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00 ==> I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw tomorrow just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics . I use a mere intel i7 3.40 GHz with 1 core (Not all my 4 core), NO MCTS and Contempt = 100. Since I am not sure if using 4 cores is better or NOT, I will play tomorrow game with the same settings. I wonder if using a single intel core i9-10900X at 4.7 GHz https://idealcpu.com/best-single-core-performance-cpus/ Dragon2 can gain an extra 15 to 20 Elo with Knight Odds ?

[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. e3 O-O 8.
Bd3 h6 9. Bh4 Na6 10. Qe2 Re8 11. O-O Nc7 12. Rae1 a6 13. Qd1 Nb5 14. f3
Qc7 15. Ne2 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 g5 17. Bf2 Bd6 18. a4 Na7 19. Nc3 Be6 20. e4 Nh5
21. e5 Bf8 22. g3 f5 23. Kg2 c5 24. Rh1 cxd4 25. Ne2 Qf7 26. f4 gxf4 27.
gxf4 Qg6+ 28. Kh3 Qg4+ 29. Kh2 Qf3 30. Reg1+ Kh8 31. Be1 Nxf4 32. Rg3 Qh5+
33. Kg1 Nxe2+ 34. Bxe2 Qf7 35. Bh5 Qc7 36. Bxe8 Rxe8 37. Rxh6+ Bxh6 38. Qh5
Rg8 39. Qxh6+ Qh7 40. Qxe6 Rxg3+ 41. Bxg3 Nc6 42. Kf2 Ne7 43. Qf6+ Qg7 44.
Bh4 Nc6 45. Qxf5 Nxe5 46. Bg3 Ng4+ 47. Ke2 Nh6 48. Qf3 d3+ 49. Kxd3 Qxb2
50. Qf8+ Kh7 51. Bf4 Qb3+ 52. Kd2 Qa2+ 53. Kc3 d4+ 54. Kd3 Qb3+ 55. Kxd4
Qxa4+ 56. Kc3 Qc6+ 57. Kb4 Qb5+ 58. Ka3 Nf5 59. Qf7+ Ng7 60. Qf6 Qf5 61.
Qxf5+ Nxf5 62. Kb4 Ne7 63. Kc5 Nc8 64. Kd5 Kg6 65. Ke6 b6 66. Be3 a5 67.
Bc1 a4 68. Ke5 Kf7 69. Kd5 Kf6 70. Kc6 Ke5 71. Bb2+ Ke4 72. Kb5 Kd3 73.
Kxa4 Kc4 74. Bf6 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

The answer is no. Anything beyond about 22 plies hurts your chances, and I'm sure you are getting more than 22 plies even on one thread at this time control. If you set Dragon to play 10' + 5" while he still plays 30' + 10" you will increase your odds of winning!

In that case I will use my daughter Lenovo M73Z All in One i3 Computer that I purchased 4 years ago similar to this one that they are selling as a refurbished for only $175.00 but when I got my daughter this all in one it was about $690.00. https://discountelectronics.com/lenovo- ... C4QAvD_BwE I just did some test and I am getting 22 plies at TC 30'+10" since he prefer to play another game at the same time control and I do NOT know what GUI let me set Dragon2 for 10'+5" and for him at 30'+10" without telling me that he lost on time.

Any of the ChessBase/Fritz GUIs should do this, you just set the time limit to the shorter one and give the human the extra time needed (20' + 5" extra in this case). The advantage is that this gives him less ponder time.

Is the Depth = to the plies (Depth=22 equal to 22 plies) ? If that is the case I can use Shredder GUI and set the depth = 22 for Dragon2 using TC 15'+10"

Yes, that's right, you should be able to set Depth = 22 as well as the 15' + 10" time control with both working properly. If you do set depth to 22 you can also restore Threads to four to speed up the engine's play; it will also maybe add half a ply or so to the quality, which probably won't help or hurt measurably. It will just reduce the opponent's ponder time. Check it out in a game with yourself first just to make sure this works properly in your GUI.

What about the Contempt, what should I set it equal to using Standard Dragon2, Not MCTS, and 4 cores on my intel i7 3.40GHz ?

[lkaufman]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00 ==> I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw tomorrow just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics . I use a mere intel i7 3.40 GHz with 1 core (Not all my 4 core), NO MCTS and Contempt = 100. Since I am not sure if using 4 cores is better or NOT, I will play tomorrow game with the same settings. I wonder if using a single intel core i9-10900X at 4.7 GHz https://idealcpu.com/best-single-core-performance-cpus/ Dragon2 can gain an extra 15 to 20 Elo with Knight Odds ?

[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. e3 O-O 8.
Bd3 h6 9. Bh4 Na6 10. Qe2 Re8 11. O-O Nc7 12. Rae1 a6 13. Qd1 Nb5 14. f3
Qc7 15. Ne2 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 g5 17. Bf2 Bd6 18. a4 Na7 19. Nc3 Be6 20. e4 Nh5
21. e5 Bf8 22. g3 f5 23. Kg2 c5 24. Rh1 cxd4 25. Ne2 Qf7 26. f4 gxf4 27.
gxf4 Qg6+ 28. Kh3 Qg4+ 29. Kh2 Qf3 30. Reg1+ Kh8 31. Be1 Nxf4 32. Rg3 Qh5+
33. Kg1 Nxe2+ 34. Bxe2 Qf7 35. Bh5 Qc7 36. Bxe8 Rxe8 37. Rxh6+ Bxh6 38. Qh5
Rg8 39. Qxh6+ Qh7 40. Qxe6 Rxg3+ 41. Bxg3 Nc6 42. Kf2 Ne7 43. Qf6+ Qg7 44.
Bh4 Nc6 45. Qxf5 Nxe5 46. Bg3 Ng4+ 47. Ke2 Nh6 48. Qf3 d3+ 49. Kxd3 Qxb2
50. Qf8+ Kh7 51. Bf4 Qb3+ 52. Kd2 Qa2+ 53. Kc3 d4+ 54. Kd3 Qb3+ 55. Kxd4
Qxa4+ 56. Kc3 Qc6+ 57. Kb4 Qb5+ 58. Ka3 Nf5 59. Qf7+ Ng7 60. Qf6 Qf5 61.
Qxf5+ Nxf5 62. Kb4 Ne7 63. Kc5 Nc8 64. Kd5 Kg6 65. Ke6 b6 66. Be3 a5 67.
Bc1 a4 68. Ke5 Kf7 69. Kd5 Kf6 70. Kc6 Ke5 71. Bb2+ Ke4 72. Kb5 Kd3 73.
Kxa4 Kc4 74. Bf6 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

The answer is no. Anything beyond about 22 plies hurts your chances, and I'm sure you are getting more than 22 plies even on one thread at this time control. If you set Dragon to play 10' + 5" while he still plays 30' + 10" you will increase your odds of winning!

In that case I will use my daughter Lenovo M73Z All in One i3 Computer that I purchased 4 years ago similar to this one that they are selling as a refurbished for only $175.00 but when I got my daughter this all in one it was about $690.00. https://discountelectronics.com/lenovo- ... C4QAvD_BwE I just did some test and I am getting 22 plies at TC 30'+10" since he prefer to play another game at the same time control and I do NOT know what GUI let me set Dragon2 for 10'+5" and for him at 30'+10" without telling me that he lost on time.

Any of the ChessBase/Fritz GUIs should do this, you just set the time limit to the shorter one and give the human the extra time needed (20' + 5" extra in this case). The advantage is that this gives him less ponder time.

Is the Depth = to the plies (Depth=22 equal to 22 plies) ? If that is the case I can use Shredder GUI and set the depth = 22 for Dragon2 using TC 15'+10"

Yes, that's right, you should be able to set Depth = 22 as well as the 15' + 10" time control with both working properly. If you do set depth to 22 you can also restore Threads to four to speed up the engine's play; it will also maybe add half a ply or so to the quality, which probably won't help or hurt measurably. It will just reduce the opponent's ponder time. Check it out in a game with yourself first just to make sure this works properly in your GUI.

What about the Contempt, what should I set it equal to using Standard Dragon2, Not MCTS, and 4 cores on my intel i7 3.40GHz ?

Definitely don't use MCTS with limited depth, the depth value isn't meaningful with MCTS and in any case there is no reason to use limited depth or threads with MCTS. So no MCTS, depth = 22, 4 cores and 4 threads on your i7, and Contempt of maybe 125 (I find 100 works best against engines at knight odds, but a somewhat higher value like 125 seems better vs. humans) might be about ideal for giving knight odds to a human IM or GM in Rapid. With Ponder on, the depth limit should cause a lot of instant computer moves (pretty much whenever it predicts the opponent's move), so this should make things difficult for the human opponent who won't have much chance to think without his own clock running. I suspect that with these settings you will be favored vs. 2420 human IM at 30' + 10", though obviously all three results are plausible in a single game. Another advantage of using four threads when using a fixed depth limit is that you should get variety if you play multiple games if he tries to repeat a previous game. Of course alternating knight handicaps also helps thwart this tactic.

[Chessqueen]

First game ended in a draw Jose Munoz Santana won $25.00 ==> I will send him $15.00 via Western Union, if he does NOT win or draw tomorrow just for spending 1 hour on Skype, and doing his very best against this Beast. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/6400361/statistics . I use a mere intel i7 3.40 GHz with 1 core (Not all my 4 core), NO MCTS and Contempt = 100. Since I am not sure if using 4 cores is better or NOT, I will play tomorrow game with the same settings. I wonder if using a single intel core i9-10900X at 4.7 GHz https://idealcpu.com/best-single-core-performance-cpus/ Dragon2 can gain an extra 15 to 20 Elo with Knight Odds ?

[pgn][Event "Via Skype"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Jose Munoz Santana"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2420"]
[Time "10:05:38"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "42"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. e3 O-O 8.
Bd3 h6 9. Bh4 Na6 10. Qe2 Re8 11. O-O Nc7 12. Rae1 a6 13. Qd1 Nb5 14. f3
Qc7 15. Ne2 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 g5 17. Bf2 Bd6 18. a4 Na7 19. Nc3 Be6 20. e4 Nh5
21. e5 Bf8 22. g3 f5 23. Kg2 c5 24. Rh1 cxd4 25. Ne2 Qf7 26. f4 gxf4 27.
gxf4 Qg6+ 28. Kh3 Qg4+ 29. Kh2 Qf3 30. Reg1+ Kh8 31. Be1 Nxf4 32. Rg3 Qh5+
33. Kg1 Nxe2+ 34. Bxe2 Qf7 35. Bh5 Qc7 36. Bxe8 Rxe8 37. Rxh6+ Bxh6 38. Qh5
Rg8 39. Qxh6+ Qh7 40. Qxe6 Rxg3+ 41. Bxg3 Nc6 42. Kf2 Ne7 43. Qf6+ Qg7 44.
Bh4 Nc6 45. Qxf5 Nxe5 46. Bg3 Ng4+ 47. Ke2 Nh6 48. Qf3 d3+ 49. Kxd3 Qxb2
50. Qf8+ Kh7 51. Bf4 Qb3+ 52. Kd2 Qa2+ 53. Kc3 d4+ 54. Kd3 Qb3+ 55. Kxd4
Qxa4+ 56. Kc3 Qc6+ 57. Kb4 Qb5+ 58. Ka3 Nf5 59. Qf7+ Ng7 60. Qf6 Qf5 61.
Qxf5+ Nxf5 62. Kb4 Ne7 63. Kc5 Nc8 64. Kd5 Kg6 65. Ke6 b6 66. Be3 a5 67.
Bc1 a4 68. Ke5 Kf7 69. Kd5 Kf6 70. Kc6 Ke5 71. Bb2+ Ke4 72. Kb5 Kd3 73.
Kxa4 Kc4 74. Bf6 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

The answer is no. Anything beyond about 22 plies hurts your chances, and I'm sure you are getting more than 22 plies even on one thread at this time control. If you set Dragon to play 10' + 5" while he still plays 30' + 10" you will increase your odds of winning!

In that case I will use my daughter Lenovo M73Z All in One i3 Computer that I purchased 4 years ago similar to this one that they are selling as a refurbished for only $175.00 but when I got my daughter this all in one it was about $690.00. https://discountelectronics.com/lenovo- ... C4QAvD_BwE I just did some test and I am getting 22 plies at TC 30'+10" since he prefer to play another game at the same time control and I do NOT know what GUI let me set Dragon2 for 10'+5" and for him at 30'+10" without telling me that he lost on time.

Any of the ChessBase/Fritz GUIs should do this, you just set the time limit to the shorter one and give the human the extra time needed (20' + 5" extra in this case). The advantage is that this gives him less ponder time.

Is the Depth = to the plies (Depth=22 equal to 22 plies) ? If that is the case I can use Shredder GUI and set the depth = 22 for Dragon2 using TC 15'+10"

Yes, that's right, you should be able to set Depth = 22 as well as the 15' + 10" time control with both working properly. If you do set depth to 22 you can also restore Threads to four to speed up the engine's play; it will also maybe add half a ply or so to the quality, which probably won't help or hurt measurably. It will just reduce the opponent's ponder time. Check it out in a game with yourself first just to make sure this works properly in your GUI.

What about the Contempt, what should I set it equal to using Standard Dragon2, Not MCTS, and 4 cores on my intel i7 3.40GHz ?

Definitely don't use MCTS with limited depth, the depth value isn't meaningful with MCTS and in any case there is no reason to use limited depth or threads with MCTS. So no MCTS, depth = 22, 4 cores and 4 threads on your i7, and Contempt of maybe 125 (I find 100 works best against engines at knight odds, but a somewhat higher value like 125 seems better vs. humans) might be about ideal for giving knight odds to a human IM or GM in Rapid. With Ponder on, the depth limit should cause a lot of instant computer moves (pretty much whenever it predicts the opponent's move), so this should make things difficult for the human opponent who won't have much chance to think without his own clock running. I suspect that with these settings you will be favored vs. 2420 human IM at 30' + 10", though obviously all three results are plausible in a single game. Another advantage of using four threads when using a fixed depth limit is that you should get variety if you play multiple games if he tries to repeat a previous game. Of course alternating knight handicaps also helps thwart this tactic.

I played the Opening Vs Dragon with two settings the first with 1 core no MCTS Contempt = 100 and I noticed the depth reach between 22 to 25

[Event "Knight Odds"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2021.09.10"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "ChessQueen"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[Time "19:37:41"]
[WhiteElo "2600"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "19"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. d4 {(d2-d4 d7-d5 c2-c3 Nb8-c6 Bc1-g5 Ng8-f6 Nb1-d2 e7-e5 e2-e3 Bf8-e7
Bf1-b5 e5xd4 c3xd4 O-O O-O Nf6-e8 Bg5-f4 Be7-d6 Nd2-f3 Bd6xf4 Bb5xc6
Bf4-h6) -3.30/21 18} Nf6 2. c4 {(c2-c4 e7-e6 g2-g3 Bf8-b4+ Nb1-d2 Nb8-c6
e2-e3 h7-h5 Bf1-g2 Bb4xd2+ Bc1xd2 h5-h4 O-O d7-d5 Ra1-c1 Nc6-e7 Qd1-c2
Qd8-d7 c4xd5 e6xd5 Qc2xc7 Qd7xc7 Rc1xc7 h4xg3) -3.24/23 14} g6 3. Nc3 Bg7
4. e4 {(e2-e4 d7-d6 Bf1-e2 e7-e5 d4-d5 h7-h5 f2-f3 Bg7-h6 Bc1xh6 Rh8xh6
Qd1-d2 Rh6-h8 O-O-O Nb8-a6 Be2-d3 Nf6-d7 Bd3-e2 Qd8-f6 g2-g3 h5-h4 b2-b3
Nd7-c5 Kc1-b2 h4xg3 h2xg3 Rh8xh1 Rd1xh1) -2.88/22 10} d6 5. h3 O-O {(O-O
Bc1-e3 c7-c5) +2.79/20 1} 6. Be3 e5 7. d5 {(d4-d5 Nf6-h5 g2-g3) -2.73/23 7}
a5 8. g4 {(g2-g4 c7-c6 Bf1-e2) -2.59/23 8} Na6 9. Be2 {(Bf1-e2 Na6-c5
f2-f3) -2.58/25 19} Nc5 10. f3 {(f2-f3 c7-c6 h3-h4) -2.88/25 27} *