4'+2" UPDATE: Loop 13.5 is here... matches underway

[PauloSoare]

Yes,Erik is fast but it seems that the new Loop isn't a big jump regarding the pure playing strengh....
I hope to be wrong though

I've run more than 200 blitz games to date, and unfortunately I think you're probably right

Ray, are you and Erik beting something? The two are very fast.
Well, don´t forget that Loop will updated until 2007 dezember,
this is the first Loop.

Paulo Soares

[Spock]

Ray, are you and Erik beting something? The two are very fast.
Well, don´t forget that Loop will updated until 2007 dezember,
this is the first Loop.

Paulo Soares

I don't know the real picture until we update the blitz list. Anything before that is speculation and I can't be sure. Of course with blitz we get a lot of games quickly and it is a reliable result, but I also have a feeling that Loop may be better at longer time controls. That will take a lot longer to find out !!

Yes we have Loop updates until Dec 2007, and I'm particularly looking to see how the upcoming quad version performs. I quite like this subscription pricing model.

Loop is a very strong engine, there is no doubt about that

[Erik Roggenburg]

Loop 13.5.32 2CPU vs.
Rybka 2.3.1 mp 32-bit: 100 (+ 17,= 40,- 43), 37.0 %
Scorpio 1.91 2CPU: 100 (+ 65,- 4, =31), 80.5 %

Match in progress: vs. Chess Tiger 2007 UCI

[Erik Roggenburg]

Loop 13.5.32 2CPU vs.
Rybka 2.3.1 mp 32-bit: 100 (+ 17,= 40,- 43), 37.0 %
Scorpio 1.91 2CPU: 100 (+ 65,- 4, =31), 80.5 %
Chess Tiger 2007 UCI: 100 (+ 59,- 7, =34), 76.0%

Match in progress: vs. Deep Fritz 10
The match in progress should be interesting.

[Erik Roggenburg]

UPDATE: Loop 13.5.32 2CPU v. Deep Fritz 10

+19, -11, =15, 58.8%

Nice performance from Loop.

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Time control: 4'+2" 
Hash: 128 MB 
EGTBs: 3, 4, 5, and some 6 piece tables are available. Engines access or do not access based upon their default settings. 

Testset: Noomen 2006 (through 2007 Mar 03); Silver Suite v2 (FULL) 
Ponder: OFF 
Hardware: AMD X2 4400+ with 2GB of RAM 
GUIs: Primarily Deep Fritz 10, but I have used Arena, Lokasoft's ERT, and Shredderchess too.  Received a version of Scorpio 1.91 from Daniel Sharwul on 3/16/07.  That version is being used in DF10 GUI, and so far, no crashes!
 
Cores and such: If an engine is capable of running on multiple cores, it does so in my tests. Since my hardware is dual core, I can't run an engine on anything greater than 2 cores. I wouldn't call an engine "Blah-blah 3.98 MP" or "Deep Flarbin Blah 7.3XY" if it were not running on 2 cores. If I ever did run Deep Fritz 10 on 1 CPU, I'd add the tag "1CPU" to its name. Similar to how I handle Scorpio 1.8 - I have to add the 2CPU tag so everyone knows it is running on 2 cores. 

[Erik Roggenburg]

UPDATE: Loop 13.5.32 2CPU v. Deep Fritz 10

+26, -20, =25, 54.2%

Deep Fritz 10 is making a move, as he leads in the ongoing game...

[PauloSoare]

Do you remember the score Deep Fritz 10 x Loop 12.32?
Thanks,

Paulo Soares

[Erik Roggenburg]

Do you remember the score Deep Fritz 10 x Loop 12.32?
Thanks,

Paulo Soares

Paulo,

Deep Fritz 10 played LoopMP 12.32 2CPU under the Noomen 2006 Test Set, and the score was as follows (close, but in favor of DF10):

vs. LoopMP 12.32 2CPU : 60 (+ 20,= 23,- 17), 52.5 %

So, I can't make a completely "apples to apples" comparison, since the latest match between the updated Loop and Deep Fritz 10 is being played using the FULL Silver Suite. FWIW, Loop is doing quite well in the most recent match, and could end up with a slight victory vs. Deep Fritz 10. However, there are now 25 games left for the two engines to play and anything can happen.

Regards,
Erik

[Erik Roggenburg]

Loop 13.5.32 2CPU vs.
Rybka 2.3.1 mp 32-bit: 100 (+ 17,- 43,= 40), 37.0 %
Scorpio 1.91 2CPU: 100 (+ 65,- 4, =31), 80.5 %
Chess Tiger 2007 UCI: 100 (+ 59,- 7, =34), 76.0%
Deep Fritz 10: 100 (+ 34,- 30,= 36), 52.0%

Match in progress: vs. Deep Frenzee 3.0

[Erik Roggenburg]

Loop 13.5.32 2CPU vs.
Rybka 2.3.1 mp 32-bit: 100 (+ 17,- 43,= 40), 37.0 %
Scorpio 1.91 2CPU: 100 (+ 65,- 4, =31), 80.5 %
Chess Tiger 2007 UCI: 100 (+ 59,- 7, =34), 76.0%
Deep Fritz 10: 100 (+ 34,- 30,= 36), 52.0%
Deep Frenzee 3.0: 100 (+ 71,- 12,= 17), 79.5%

Match in progress: vs. Deep Junior 10.1