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Tony Thomas

Re: A dangerous combination

Post by Tony Thomas » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:15 pm

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4 RomiChessDK5              : 2489  181 (+ 94,= 24,- 63), 58.6 %

Danasah 2.85                  :  30 (+ 16,=  6,-  8), 63.3 %
Phalanx Reborn                :  30 (+ 15,=  3,- 12), 55.0 %
Francesca MAD 0.13            :  30 (+ 10,=  4,- 16), 40.0 %
Lime 6.3                      :  30 (+ 27,=  2,-  1), 93.3 %
Zappa 1.1                     :  30 (+ 10,=  4,- 16), 40.0 %
GreKo 5.2                     :   1 (+  0,=  1,-  0), 50.0 %
Arasan 9.5                    :  30 (+ 16,=  4,- 10), 60.0 %
Performance against Phalanx not as good as expected, but still not too bad. I hope she will continue to perform as good as it did so far.

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Re: A dangerous combination

Post by Michael Sherwin » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:25 pm

Tony Thomas wrote:

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4 RomiChessDK5              : 2489  181 (+ 94,= 24,- 63), 58.6 %

Danasah 2.85                  :  30 (+ 16,=  6,-  8), 63.3 %
Phalanx Reborn                :  30 (+ 15,=  3,- 12), 55.0 %
Francesca MAD 0.13            :  30 (+ 10,=  4,- 16), 40.0 %
Lime 6.3                      :  30 (+ 27,=  2,-  1), 93.3 %
Zappa 1.1                     :  30 (+ 10,=  4,- 16), 40.0 %
GreKo 5.2                     :   1 (+  0,=  1,-  0), 50.0 %
Arasan 9.5                    :  30 (+ 16,=  4,- 10), 60.0 %
Performance against Phalanx not as good as expected, but still not too bad. I hope she will continue to perform as good as it did so far.
63.3 % vs DanaSah 2.85 is huge for Romi ! :D
I hate if statements. Pawns demand if statements. Therefore I hate pawns.

Tony Thomas

Re: A dangerous combination

Post by Tony Thomas » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:33 pm

Michael Sherwin wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:

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4 RomiChessDK5              : 2489  181 (+ 94,= 24,- 63), 58.6 %

Danasah 2.85                  :  30 (+ 16,=  6,-  8), 63.3 %
Phalanx Reborn                :  30 (+ 15,=  3,- 12), 55.0 %
Francesca MAD 0.13            :  30 (+ 10,=  4,- 16), 40.0 %
Lime 6.3                      :  30 (+ 27,=  2,-  1), 93.3 %
Zappa 1.1                     :  30 (+ 10,=  4,- 16), 40.0 %
GreKo 5.2                     :   1 (+  0,=  1,-  0), 50.0 %
Arasan 9.5                    :  30 (+ 16,=  4,- 10), 60.0 %
Performance against Phalanx not as good as expected, but still not too bad. I hope she will continue to perform as good as it did so far.
63.3 % vs DanaSah 2.85 is huge for Romi ! :D
I hope that we can get the engine to the 3rd division by next edition if not to second. I know that Leo will promote an engine directly two divisions up if it scores well enough to get a rating that high. In the case of Romi, I doubt that she can pull off such a high score.

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Re: A dangerous combination

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:50 pm

Tony Thomas wrote:
Michael Sherwin wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:

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4 RomiChessDK5              : 2489  181 (+ 94,= 24,- 63), 58.6 %

Danasah 2.85                  :  30 (+ 16,=  6,-  8), 63.3 %
Phalanx Reborn                :  30 (+ 15,=  3,- 12), 55.0 %
Francesca MAD 0.13            :  30 (+ 10,=  4,- 16), 40.0 %
Lime 6.3                      :  30 (+ 27,=  2,-  1), 93.3 %
Zappa 1.1                     :  30 (+ 10,=  4,- 16), 40.0 %
GreKo 5.2                     :   1 (+  0,=  1,-  0), 50.0 %
Arasan 9.5                    :  30 (+ 16,=  4,- 10), 60.0 %
Performance against Phalanx not as good as expected, but still not too bad. I hope she will continue to perform as good as it did so far.
63.3 % vs DanaSah 2.85 is huge for Romi ! :D
I hope that we can get the engine to the 3rd division by next edition if not to second. I know that Leo will promote an engine directly two divisions up if it scores well enough to get a rating that high. In the case of Romi, I doubt that she can pull off such a high score.
One division up the rating list will be a good achievement,I don't want the bitch to get overheated :lol:
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Why do you talked about this stuff in public ?

Post by Daniel Mehrmann » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:11 pm

This whole thread is just about internal testing of romi books.
That's great of course, i'm a fan of romi, but why do you do this stuff in public ???

I'm not interested and i guess a lot of people as well.

Maybe posting the final results is enought. All other stuff should be done between developer and tester via e-mail as all other developers and tester guys doing it too !! And it's not Michael fault here....

Is it soooooo difficult ?

:roll:

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Daniel

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Re: Why do you talked about this stuff in public ?

Post by Michael Sherwin » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:29 pm

Daniel Mehrmann wrote:This whole thread is just about internal testing of romi books.
That's great of course, i'm a fan of romi, but why do you do this stuff in public ???

I'm not interested and i guess a lot of people as well.

Maybe posting the final results is enought. All other stuff should be done between developer and tester via e-mail as all other developers and tester guys doing it too !! And it's not Michael fault here....

Is it soooooo difficult ?

:roll:

Best,
Daniel
Tony has tested the last couple of Romi betas under the same conditions (including the same book). His excitement (and mine) is that this beta seems to have taken another big jump in strength. The opening book talk is just side talk and not the point of the thread. But, I understand that the side talk is not interesting to most!
I hate if statements. Pawns demand if statements. Therefore I hate pawns.

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Re: Why do you talked about this stuff in public ?

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:52 am

Daniel Mehrmann wrote:This whole thread is just about internal testing of romi books.
That's great of course, i'm a fan of romi, but why do you do this stuff in public ???

I'm not interested and i guess a lot of people as well.

Maybe posting the final results is enought. All other stuff should be done between developer and tester via e-mail as all other developers and tester guys doing it too !! And it's not Michael fault here....

Is it soooooo difficult ?

:roll:

Best,
Daniel
And what is your problem particulary,what did we do wrong to disturbe your inner state of peace?
If you're not interested,skip the post,simple as that :roll:
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….

Tony Thomas

Re: Why do you talked about this stuff in public ?

Post by Tony Thomas » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:44 am

Daniel Mehrmann wrote:This whole thread is just about internal testing of romi books.
That's great of course, i'm a fan of romi, but why do you do this stuff in public ???

I'm not interested and i guess a lot of people as well.

Maybe posting the final results is enought. All other stuff should be done between developer and tester via e-mail as all other developers and tester guys doing it too !! And it's not Michael fault here....

Is it soooooo difficult ?

:roll:

Best,
Daniel
I have only tested one book and that's all. Michael adviced me that if I used a book made from grand07.pgn in combination with the current book, it will help his engine score an additional 8% or so. I responded
Also, you know that changing the books a lot can skew the rating a lot, you wnt be able to tell weather it was the engine or the book
May be you wish you had a tester like me. After all this is the tournament forum and here I can post about any kind of test involving a chess engine. People posts results of 100 different versions of Rybka, using 100 different books, and 100 different setttings, you dont seem to be questioning them.

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Re: A dangerous combination

Post by Tony Thomas » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:39 am

The rating of Romi has dropped a lot, but here are the current standings....Yes, she is still at 4th place. I guess I am gonna have to pick new opponents as she out performs about 75% of her 12 opponents. I am gonna have to let go of most of the opponents towards the end of the list and find new ones that are stronger than Zappa. I might even add a commercial engine.

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4/2/2007 12:56:26 AM :

    Program                          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

  1 Zappa 1.1                      : 2543   29  29   540    70.0 %   2396   16.7 %
  2 Francesca MAD 0.13             : 2501   28  27   540    64.4 %   2398   18.3 %
  3 Arasan 9.5                     : 2496   28  28   540    63.6 %   2399   16.5 %
  4 RomiChessDK5                   : 2466   35  35   330    59.8 %   2397   16.7 %
  5 Danasah 2.85                   : 2444   26  26   541    56.1 %   2402   22.7 %
  6 RomiChessDK3                   : 2444   33  33   360    57.4 %   2392   18.1 %
  7 RomiChessDK4                   : 2438   30  30   420    56.7 %   2391   21.4 %
  8 RomiChessP3j                   : 2423   40  40   248    52.6 %   2404   14.9 %
  9 RomiChessDK2                   : 2418   33  33   360    53.6 %   2392   16.1 %
 10 Phalanx Reborn                 : 2413   27  27   540    51.5 %   2403   15.6 %
 11 Delphil 1.6c                   : 2402   27  27   517    49.9 %   2403   20.5 %
 12 Horizon_4_3_173                : 2391   32  32   390    48.1 %   2405   14.1 %
 13 Djinn 0.925x                   : 2378   28  28   510    46.7 %   2401   15.7 %
 14 Horizon_4_3_175                : 2371   33  33   360    46.0 %   2399   18.1 %
 15 NanoSzachy 2.7                 : 2356   28  28   510    42.9 %   2405   16.1 %
 16 Horizon 4.3                    : 2356   30  30   420    43.1 %   2404   18.6 %
 17 Zeus 1.28                      : 2355   27  27   510    42.7 %   2405   19.6 %
 18 GreKo 5.2                      : 2279   28  29   540    31.9 %   2411   16.3 %
 19 Lime 6.3                       : 2166   34  35   540    19.1 %   2417   10.0 %

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Re: A dangerous combination

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:06 pm

Great Tony,keep up the good work brother :D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….

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