Movei403 progress 4 6 10 vs Glarung 2-epsilon/2

[pichy]

Movei403 progress 4 6 10 is super strong at longer time control or is it simply getting lucky versus Glaurung 2-epsilon/2 ?


Engine Score Gl Mo S-B
1: Glaurung-w32 3.0/6 ······· 1===0=
2: Movei00_8_403 3.0/6 0===1= ·······

6 of 30 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 45/0
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "Jorge"]
[Date "2007.05.11"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Movei00_8_403"]
[Black "Glaurung-w32"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C10"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "21:06:09"]
[Variation "Rubinstein, 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4"]
[TimeControl "2700+0"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "154"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 b6 5.Bd3 Nd7 6.Nf3 Ngf6 7.Nxf6+ Nxf6 8.Bg5 Bb7
9.Qe2 Be7 10.O-O O-O 11.c3 h6 12.Bh4 Qd5 13.Bxf6 Bxf6 14.Rfe1 c5 15.Qc2 cxd4 16.Be4
Qd7 17.Bxb7 Qxb7 18.cxd4 Rac8 19.Qe2 Qd5 20.b3 Rc3 21.Qa6 Rxf3 22.gxf3 Qxf3 23.Qe2
Qd5 24.Qe4 Qd6 25.Rac1 Bxd4 26.Rc6 Qd8 27.Re2 Qg5+ 28.Kf1 Rd8 29.Rc7 a5 30.Qf3 Bf6
31.Re3 Qg6 32.a4 Rd2 33.Re2 Rd5 34.Re1 Rf5 35.Qa8+ Kh7 36.Rc8 Qg4 37.Rh8+ Kg6 38.Qg2
Qxg2+ 39.Kxg2 Rg5+ 40.Kf1 Rh5 41.Kg2 Bd4 42.Rd8 Rg5+ 43.Kf1 e5 44.Re2 Kf5 45.Rd7 f6
46.Rd2 Ke4 47.h3 Rh5 48.Kg2 Rg5+ 49.Kf1 Kf4 50.Rb7 Kf5 51.Re2 Rh5 52.Kg2 g6 53.Rh7 Kf4
54.Rd2 Rg5+ 55.Kf1 Rf5 56.Rh8 h5 57.Re2 Kf3 58.Rh6 g5 59.Rd2 g4 60.hxg4 hxg4 61.Rg6
Rf4 62.Re2 e4 63.Rc2 f5 64.Rd6 e3 65.fxe3 Bxe3 66.Rf6 Bc5 67.Ke1 Re4+ 68.Kf1 f4
69.Rc3+ Be3 70.Rxb6 g3 71.Rg6 Rd4 72.Ke1 Rd2 73.Rg7 g2 74.Rg5 Rb2 75.Kd1 Rb1+ 76.Kc2
Rc1+ 77.Kb2 Rxc3 {White resigns} 0-1

[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "Jorge"]
[Date "2007.05.11"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Glaurung-w32"]
[Black "Movei00_8_403"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D35"]
[Opening "QGD"]
[Time "22:19:18"]
[Variation "Exchange, 5.Bg5 c6 6.Nf3"]
[TimeControl "2700+0"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "110"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4 d5 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Bg5 c6 6.Nc3 Bf5 7.a3 Nbd7 8.e3 Be7
9.Be2 O-O 10.O-O Ne4 11.Bf4 Bd6 12.Bxd6 Nxd6 13.b4 a6 14.Na4 Bg4 15.Nc5 Bxf3 16.Bxf3
b6 17.Nd3 Qe7 18.Rc1 Rac8 19.Re1 g6 20.Qb3 Kg7 21.Bg4 f5 22.Be2 b5 23.Nf4 Nc4
24.Bxc4 dxc4 25.Qd1 Nf6 26.Qf3 Rfe8 27.h4 Qf7 28.Ne2 Kh8 29.Nc3 Qe7 30.Ne2 Qd6 31.Nf4
Rcd8 32.h5 g5 33.Ne2 Qd5 34.Qh3 Ng4 35.Ng3 Rd6 36.Rcd1 Nh6 37.f3 Rde6 38.e4 c3
39.Ne2 Qb3 40.Qg3 c2 41.Rdc1 Qe3+ 42.Qf2 Qxa3 43.d5 R6e5 44.Nd4 fxe4 45.Nxc6 Rxd5
46.Qxc2 e3 47.Rca1 Qd3 48.Qb2+ Kg8 49.Qf6 Qd2 50.Ne7+ Rxe7 51.Qxe7 Qf2+ 52.Kh2 Qh4+
53.Kg1 Qf2+ 54.Kh1 Qh4+ 55.Kg1 Qf2+ {3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2

[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "Jorge"]
[Date "2007.05.11"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Movei00_8_403"]
[Black "Glaurung-w32"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C64"]
[Opening "Spanish"]
[Time "23:09:28"]
[Variation "Classical, Exchange"]
[TimeControl "2700+0"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "276"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Bc5 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.O-O Bg4 6.h3 Bxf3 7.Qxf3 Ne7 8.Qe2 Qd6
9.d3 O-O 10.Nd2 Rfd8 11.a4 Qe6 12.Nb3 Bb4 13.f4 exf4 14.Bxf4 Bd6 15.a5 Ng6 16.Bxd6
cxd6 17.a6 b6 18.Nd4 Qd7 19.Qf3 Rde8 20.Rae1 f6 21.Nf5 Ne7 22.Qg3 Nxf5 23.Rxf5 Re6
24.Ref1 Rf8 25.Qh4 Rfe8 26.c4 Qc8 27.Rh5 h6 28.Qg4 R6e5 29.Qxc8 Rxc8 30.Rxe5 dxe5
31.Kf2 c5 32.h4 h5 33.Rh1 Kf7 34.Rc1 Ke6 35.Ke3 Rc6 36.Rc2 Kf7 37.g3 Rc7 38.Re2 Ke6
39.Rf2 g6 40.Re2 Rd7 41.b3 Rd8 42.Rb2 Kd6 43.Rh2 Rc8 44.Re2 Ke6 45.Rg2 Rg8 46.Rc2 f5
47.Ra2 Rd8 48.Ra1 Rd7 49.Re1 Rc7 50.Rd1 Rf7 51.Ke2 Rd7 52.Rb1 Rd8 53.Ke3 Rf8 54.Rg1
Rf7 55.Ke2 Rh7 56.Rc1 Rh8 57.Kd2 Rf8 58.Ke2 Rd8 59.Re1 Kf6 60.Ke3 Rd6 61.Rg1 Rc6
62.Ra1 Rc7 63.Rh1 Rc8 64.Rh2 Ke6 65.Re2 Rf8 66.Rf2 Kd6 67.Ke2 Rf7 68.Kd2 Ke6 69.Ke3
Rd7 70.Rf3 Rd8 71.Rf1 Rc8 72.Kf2 Rc7 73.Kf3 Rd7 74.Ke2 Kf6 75.Ke3 Rf7 76.Kd2 Ke6
77.Ke2 Rg7 78.Rf2 Rg8 79.Ke3 Kf6 80.Kd2 b5 81.Ke3 Rd8 82.cxb5 Rb8 83.Rc2 Rxb5 84.b4
Rxb4 85.Rxc5 fxe4 86.dxe4 Rb6 87.Ra5 Rb3+ 88.Kf2 Ke6 89.Ra2 Rc3 90.Ra1 Kf6 91.Ra2 g5
92.hxg5+ Kxg5 93.Ra5 Kf6 94.Ra1 Rc5 95.Rd1 Rc2+ 96.Ke3 Rc6 97.Ra1 Re6 98.Kf3 Kg6 99.Ra3
Rc6 100.Kg2 Kg5 101.Kh3 Rc4 102.Rd3 Rd4 103.Rxd4 exd4 104.Kg2 Kf6 105.Kf2 Ke5
106.Kf3 d3 107.Ke3 d2 108.Kxd2 Kxe4 109.Ke2 Ke5 110.Kf3 Kf5 111.Kf2 Kg4 112.Kg2 Kf5
113.Kh1 Ke4 114.Kh2 Kf5 115.Kg1 Ke4 116.Kg2 Kf5 117.Kf1 Ke5 118.Kg2 Kd4 119.Kh3 Ke4
120.Kh4 Kf3 121.Kxh5 Kxg3 122.Kg5 Kf3 123.Kf5 Ke3 124.Ke5 Kf3 125.Kf6 Kf4 126.Ke6 Ke4
127.Kd6 Kd4 128.Kc6 Ke5 129.Kc5 Ke4 130.Kc4 Ke5 131.Kb5 Kd5 132.Kb4 Kd4 133.Ka4 Kc4
134.Ka3 Kc3 135.Ka2 Kd4 136.Kb3 Ke5 137.Ka4 Ke4 138.Ka3 Kf3 {½-½ User Adjudication} 1/2-1/2

[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "Jorge"]
[Date "2007.05.12"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Glaurung-w32"]
[Black "Movei00_8_403"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "E43"]
[Opening "Nimzo-Indian"]
[Time "00:37:08"]
[Variation "Nimzowitsch, 5.Nf3 Bb7 6.Bd3 O-O 7.O-O"]
[TimeControl "2700+0"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "285"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.d4 e6 2.c4 Bb4+ 3.Nc3 b6 4.e3 Nf6 5.Bd3 Bb7 6.Nf3 O-O 7.O-O Bxc3 8.bxc3 d6
9.Nd2 e5 10.e4 Nc6 11.Nb3 Ne7 12.f3 Ng6 13.g3 Re8 14.Be3 c6 15.d5 Rc8 16.Qd2 Qc7
17.Rfc1 Ne7 18.a4 Nd7 19.a5 Rcb8 20.Bf1 c5 21.axb6 axb6 22.Bh3 Bc8 23.Ra3 Nf8 24.Bg2 f5
25.Rca1 h6 26.Nc1 Nh7 27.Nd3 Nf6 28.Qd1 Rf8 29.h3 Bb7 30.Qd2 Kh8 31.Kh2 g5 32.R3a7 Nc8
33.R7a3 Ne7 34.Nxe5 fxe4 35.Ng4 exf3 36.Bxf3 Nxg4+ 37.Bxg4 Ng6 38.Qe2 Ne5 39.R3a2 Qe7
40.Be6 Qf6 41.Qh5 Nxc4 42.Rf1 Qg7 43.Rxf8+ Rxf8 44.Bc1 Rf6 45.h4 gxh4 46.gxh4 Rg6
47.Rf2 Qe5+ 48.Qxe5+ Nxe5 49.Kh3 Kg7 50.Ra2 Nd3 51.Ra7 Nxc1 52.Rxb7+ Kh8 53.Rb8+ Kg7
54.Rg8+ Kh7 55.Rd8 Kg7 56.Rd7+ Kh8 57.h5 Rg5 58.Rxd6 Nd3 59.Kh4 Ne5 60.Rd8+ Kg7 61.Rg8+
Kf6 62.Rf8+ Ke7 63.Rb8 Nf3+ 64.Kh3 Ng1+ 65.Kh2 Ne2 66.Rb7+ Kf6 67.Rxb6 Rxh5+ 68.Kg2
Rg5+ 69.Kf3 Nxc3 70.Bh3+ Kg7 71.d6 Rd5 72.d7 Rd3+ 73.Kf2 Rd2+ 74.Kg3 Ne4+ 75.Kf4 Ng5
76.Bf5 Nf7 77.Ke3 Rd5 78.Be6 Rd1 79.Ra6 h5 80.Kf4 Nd8 81.Bh3 Rd3 82.Bf5 Rd4+ 83.Kf3 h4
84.Ra8 Nf7 85.Ke3 Rd5 86.Ke4 Rd1 87.Bh3 Kf6 88.Kf4 c4 89.Ra6+ Kg7 90.Bf5 Rd4+ 91.Ke3
Rd5 92.Rg6+ Kf8 93.Be6 Rd3+ 94.Ke4 h3 95.Bd5 h2 96.Rh6 Ng5+ 97.Ke5 Ke7 98.Rxh2 c3
99.Rg2 Nf3+ 100.Bxf3 Rxf3 101.Ke4 Rh3 102.Rc2 Kxd7 103.Kd4 Kd6 104.Rxc3 Rh8 105.Rc1
Rh4+ 106.Kc3 Kc5 107.Ra1 Rh3+ 108.Kb2 Kd4 109.Rb1 Rh6 110.Ra1 Rf6 111.Rb1 Kc4
112.Ra1 Rf2+ 113.Ka3 Rf7 114.Rb1 Rf8 115.Ra1 Rb8 116.Rc1+ Kd3 117.Ra1 Kc3 118.Rc1+ Kd2
119.Ra1 Rb7 120.Rf1 Kd3 121.Ra1 Rb8 122.Rc1 Ke3 123.Ra1 Kd2 124.Rf1 Rb7 125.Ra1 Rb5
126.Rf1 Rb6 127.Ra1 Kc2 128.Re1 Rb7 129.Rf1 Rb8 130.Re1 Rb6 131.Rf1 Rb7 132.Re1 Kc3
133.Rc1+ Kd4 134.Ra1 Kd3 135.Rc1 Rb6 136.Ra1 Kd2 137.Rf1 Ke2 138.Ra1 Kd3 139.Rc1 Kd4
140.Ra1 Rb5 141.Rc1 Rb8 142.Ra1 Ke3 143.Rc1 {½-½ User Adjudication} 1/2-1/2

[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "Jorge"]
[Date "2007.05.12"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Movei00_8_403"]
[Black "Glaurung-w32"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B12"]
[Opening "Caro-Kann"]
[Time "02:03:07"]
[Variation "Gurgenidze-Modern: 3.Nd2 g6"]
[TimeControl "2700+0"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "79"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 g6 4.c3 Bg7 5.Bd3 Nh6 6.Ne2 O-O 7.Nf3 dxe4 8.Bxe4 Bf5
9.Bxf5 Nxf5 10.Ng3 Qd5 11.Qc2 Nd7 12.Bf4 c5 13.Nxf5 gxf5 14.O-O cxd4 15.Rad1 Nb6
16.Nxd4 e6 17.a3 Qa2 18.Qc1 Kh8 19.b3 Bxd4 20.Rxd4 Qxb3 21.Bd6 f6 22.Bxf8 Rxf8 23.Rfd1
e5 24.Qh6 Kg8 25.R4d8 Qf7 26.a4 Qe7 27.R8d3 Qf7 28.a5 Nc8 29.R3d7 Ne7 30.Rxb7 a6
31.Qe3 Re8 32.Qb6 Qf8 33.Rdd7 Kf7 34.Qd6 h6 35.c4 h5 36.c5 f4 37.c6 f3 38.c7 Kg6
39.Rxe7 Rxe7 40.Qxe7 {1-0 Arena Adjudication} 1-0

[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "Jorge"]
[Date "2007.05.12"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Glaurung-w32"]
[Black "Movei00_8_403"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C10"]
[Opening "French"]
[Time "02:51:35"]
[Variation "Rubinstein, 4...Nd7"]
[TimeControl "2700+0"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "236"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bc4 Ndf6 6.Ng5 c6 7.Qe2 Bd6 8.N1f3 h6
9.Nh3 Ne7 10.O-O O-O 11.Ne5 Bxe5 12.Qxe5 Ng6 13.Qe3 e5 14.dxe5 Ng4 15.Qg3 N4xe5
16.Bb3 a5 17.Nf4 Qf6 18.a4 Re8 19.Bd2 Nxf4 20.Bxf4 Ng6 21.Bd2 Be6 22.Bc3 Qf5 23.Rad1
h5 24.Bxe6 Rxe6 25.Rd2 Re4 26.Qc7 Re7 27.Qd6 Rae8 28.f4 R7e4 29.g3 h4 30.Qd7 Qc5+
31.Bd4 Qe7 32.Qxe7 Nxe7 33.b3 b5 34.axb5 cxb5 35.Kf2 Nf5 36.Bc5 Rc8 37.Kf3 Re6 38.Rd5
Rec6 39.b4 g6 40.c3 Ng7 41.Bd4 axb4 42.cxb4 R6c4 43.Rb1 Ra8 44.Be5 hxg3 45.hxg3 f6
46.Bxf6 Ra3+ 47.Kg4 Nf5 48.Rd8+ Kf7 49.Bh4 Rcc3 50.Rg1 Rab3 51.Rd7+ Kf8 52.Kg5 Nxh4
53.Kxh4 Rxb4 54.Kg5 Rbc4 55.Kxg6 b4 56.Rf7+ Kg8 57.g4 R4c6+ 58.Rf6 b3 59.f5 Rxf6+
60.Kxf6 b2 61.Rb1 Rc6+ 62.Ke5 Rb6 63.Kd5 Kf7 64.g5 Rb4 65.Ke5 Ke7 66.g6 Rb5+ 67.Kd4 Kf6
68.Kd3 Rb8 69.Kc2 Kxf5 70.g7 Kg6 71.g8=Q+ Rxg8 72.Rxb2 Rd8 73.Rb1 Kf5 74.Ra1 Rc8+
75.Kb1 Ke4 76.Ra2 Kd3 77.Ra1 Re8 78.Ra2 Rf8 79.Ra1 Kd2 80.Ra2+ Kc3 81.Ra7 Rc8 82.Ra1
Rh8 83.Ra3+ Kc4 84.Kc2 Rh2+ 85.Kb1 Rg2 86.Ra8 Kb3 87.Rb8+ Kc3 88.Rb5 Rh2 89.Ra5
Rb2+ 90.Ka1 Rf2 91.Ra3+ Kb4 92.Ra2 Rf3 93.Rb2+ Kc3 94.Rb1 Rf2 95.Rc1+ Kb3 96.Rb1+
Kc4 97.Rc1+ Kd4 98.Rb1 Kd3 99.Rc1 Rg2 100.Rb1 Kc4 101.Rc1+ Kb3 102.Rb1+ Kc3
103.Rc1+ Kd4 104.Rb1 Rf2 105.Rc1 Rh2 106.Rb1 Kc3 107.Rc1+ Kb3 108.Rb1+ Kc4 109.Rc1+ Kd3
110.Rb1 Kd4 111.Rc1 Ke4 112.Rb1 Kd3 113.Rc1 Rd2 114.Rb1 Rg2 115.Rc1 Rf2 116.Rb1 Rf8
117.Rc1 Rb8 118.Rb1 Rh8 {½-½ User Adjudication} 1/2-1/2

[Uri Blass]

I guess it is lucky.

I did not test it against glaurung2-epsilon/2 but as far as I know movei is
significantly weaker than glaurung1.2.1

The gap in playing strength is not small and I do not believe that changing the personality can close all the gap.

Uri

[pichy]

I guess it is lucky.

I did not test it against glaurung2-epsilon/2 but as far as I know movei is
significantly weaker than glaurung1.2.1

The gap in playing strength is not small and I do not believe that changing the personality can close all the gap.

Uri

Yes it is lucky, but no other progress that I have tested has come as close in beating glaurung2-epsilon/2 as this progress has

Engine Score Gl Mo
1: Glaurung-w32 6.0/10 ········· 1===0=1110
2: Movei00_8_403 4.0/10 0===1=0001 ·········

10 of 30 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Blitz 45/0
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

[pichy]

I guess it is lucky.

I did not test it against glaurung2-epsilon/2 but as far as I know movei is
significantly weaker than glaurung1.2.1

The gap in playing strength is not small and I do not believe that changing the personality can close all the gap.

Uri

Uri, 40 games might not be much, but Movei403 progress 4 6 10 already beat Glaurung 1.2.1. in a previous match

http://216.25.93.108/forum/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=

[Uri Blass]

I did not try 4 6 10 against glaurung but in my tests
4 6 10 lost against 10 10 10

result is not significant enough to claim that 4 6 10 is weaker than 10 10 10 but is enough to say that 4 6 10 is not significantly stronger than 10 10 10 when glaurung1.2.1 is significantly better than 10 10 10.

Maybe your machine does not like glaurung because movei is certainly not significantly better than fruit2.0(I believe that it is still weaker than fruit2.0) when glaurung is significantly better than fruit2.0

Uri

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Sorry Jorge,but at first quick glance I see a lot of stuiped opening lines in your games....
Opening book after all....??

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Take a look at this game for example:

[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "Jorge"]
[Date "2007.05.12"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Movei00_8_403"]
[Black "Glaurung-w32"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B12"]
[Opening "Caro-Kann"]
[Time "02:03:07"]
[Variation "Gurgenidze-Modern: 3.Nd2 g6"]
[TimeControl "2700+0"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "79"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 g6 4.c3 Bg7 5.Bd3 Nh6 6.Ne2 O-O 7.Nf3 dxe4 8.Bxe4 Bf5
9.Bxf5 Nxf5 10.Ng3 Qd5 11.Qc2 Nd7 12.Bf4 c5 13.Nxf5 gxf5 14.O-O cxd4 15.Rad1 Nb6
16.Nxd4 e6 17.a3 Qa2 18.Qc1 Kh8 19.b3 Bxd4 20.Rxd4 Qxb3 21.Bd6 f6 22.Bxf8 Rxf8 23.Rfd1
e5 24.Qh6 Kg8 25.R4d8 Qf7 26.a4 Qe7 27.R8d3 Qf7 28.a5 Nc8 29.R3d7 Ne7 30.Rxb7 a6
31.Qe3 Re8 32.Qb6 Qf8 33.Rdd7 Kf7 34.Qd6 h6 35.c4 h5 36.c5 f4 37.c6 f3 38.c7 Kg6
39.Rxe7 Rxe7 40.Qxe7 {1-0 Arena Adjudication} 1-0

3....g6 _a poor answer in this opening system!
5....Nh6 _This move could lead very quickly to a big disaster for black!

This could explain the strange results you get when forcing the engines to use weird opening lines....
Note that Uri wrote that he don't believe your results as the gap between the two programs is big and can't be explained with a super new Movei's personality....

[Uri Blass]

I did not try 4 6 10 against glaurung but in my tests
4 6 10 lost against 10 10 10

result is not significant enough to claim that 4 6 10 is weaker than 10 10 10 but is enough to say that 4 6 10 is not significantly stronger than 10 10 10 when glaurung1.2.1 is significantly better than 10 10 10.

Maybe your machine does not like glaurung because movei is certainly not significantly better than fruit2.0(I believe that it is still weaker than fruit2.0) when glaurung is significantly better than fruit2.0

Uri

update

I stopped the match and continued it and now result is 19-19-19 that means 19 draws and 19 wins for every side

time control is 400,000 nodes per move and I am going to continue later.

I used slower time control in another computer that is not near me at this moment and I will see results tomorrow.

Uri

[pichy]

Take a look at this game for example:

[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "Jorge"]
[Date "2007.05.12"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Movei00_8_403"]
[Black "Glaurung-w32"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B12"]
[Opening "Caro-Kann"]
[Time "02:03:07"]
[Variation "Gurgenidze-Modern: 3.Nd2 g6"]
[TimeControl "2700+0"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "79"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 g6 4.c3 Bg7 5.Bd3 Nh6 6.Ne2 O-O 7.Nf3 dxe4 8.Bxe4 Bf5
9.Bxf5 Nxf5 10.Ng3 Qd5 11.Qc2 Nd7 12.Bf4 c5 13.Nxf5 gxf5 14.O-O cxd4 15.Rad1 Nb6
16.Nxd4 e6 17.a3 Qa2 18.Qc1 Kh8 19.b3 Bxd4 20.Rxd4 Qxb3 21.Bd6 f6 22.Bxf8 Rxf8 23.Rfd1
e5 24.Qh6 Kg8 25.R4d8 Qf7 26.a4 Qe7 27.R8d3 Qf7 28.a5 Nc8 29.R3d7 Ne7 30.Rxb7 a6
31.Qe3 Re8 32.Qb6 Qf8 33.Rdd7 Kf7 34.Qd6 h6 35.c4 h5 36.c5 f4 37.c6 f3 38.c7 Kg6
39.Rxe7 Rxe7 40.Qxe7 {1-0 Arena Adjudication} 1-0

3....g6 _a poor answer in this opening system!
5....Nh6 _This move could lead very quickly to a big disaster for black!

This could explain the strange results you get when forcing the engines to use weird opening lines....
Note that Uri wrote that he don't believe your results as the gap between the two programs is big and can't be explained with a super new Movei's personality....

You always like to talk bad about HS Openings, but both programs used the exact Mainbook.abk Opening Book, which in reality it doesn't matter which book it was used as long as both openings were used for both sides white and black or Movei and Glaurung

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

No,I didn't know which opening book was used,but that does not mean that when I see weak opening systems I must shut my mouth because the author is Mr.X or Mr.Y....
In the example I gave you every one who understand a little bit the opening theory will agree with me,take a closer look by youeself and you'll understand....
5....Nh6 is garantee for a doomed position for black,bottom line