Uri what is the difference between Movei421 and Movei423 ?

[Uri Blass]

I did not pay attention that you left it with mobilitydivider of 512 instead of 64

There are not enough games but I think that the the change in the piece square table does not go well with mobiltydivider of 512

smaller mobilitydivider should help to increase the positional mobility scores for knights and bishops.

The main problem with doing it is probably the fact that there is also piece square table that encourage centralization of them so the score for them is too high.

When there is no bonus in the piece square table for centralization of knights and bishops common sense tell me that there should be a bonus for the same centralization based on mobility.

update result so far in my match(mobilitydivider=64) is 33-20 with 21 draws for the new personality against default 423.

Uri

[Uri Blass]

final result of the 100 game match at 1000000 nodes per move
41-27 with 32 draws.

Uri

[pichy]

final result of the 100 game match at 1000000 nodes per move
41-27 with 32 draws.

Uri

This is with mobilitydivider 64 against other engines Movei423 is NOT doing as good as with mobilitydivider 512

Engine Score Ru Wi Al Co Pe Mo S-B
1: Ruffian_105 11.0/17 ···· 010= 1=1 1=1 0=1 0111 83.50
2: WildCat_7 9.0/17 101= ···· =00 100 1=01 11= 71.75
3: AlaricWB704 9.0/16 0=0 =11 ···· 1010 1== 011 70.00
4: Colossus2007b 8.5/17 0=0 011 0101 ···· 1=0= 011 66.50
5: Petir439 7.5/17 1=0 0=10 0== 0=1= ···· =01 63.50
6: Movei00_8_423 5.0/16 1000 00= 100 100 =10 ···· 44.25

50 of 90 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
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And this is with mobilitydivider 512 against other engines

Engine Score Ru Mo Mo Al Co Wi S-B
1: Ruffian_105 18.5/30 ······ ==1101 =01101 0=11=0 11=111 =10=0= 264.50
2: Movei00_8_423 17.0/30 ==0010 ······ ==1101 =110=0 1=0100 1=1111 239.75
3: Movei00_8_421 15.5/30 =10010 ==0010 ······ 01011= 100=0= 11=111 222.00
4: AlaricWB704 14.5/30 1=00=1 =001=1 10100= ······ 011=11 0=0010 219.50
5: Colossus2007b 12.5/30 00=000 0=1011 011=1= 100=00 ······ 001011 188.50
6: WildCat_7 12.0/30 =01=1= 0=0000 00=000 1=1101 110100 ······ 183.75

90 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
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[Uri Blass]

final result of the 100 game match at 1000000 nodes per move
41-27 with 32 draws.

Uri

This is with mobilitydivider 64 against other engines Movei423 is NOT doing as good as with mobilitydivider 512

Engine Score Ru Wi Al Co Pe Mo S-B
1: Ruffian_105 11.0/17 ···· 010= 1=1 1=1 0=1 0111 83.50
2: WildCat_7 9.0/17 101= ···· =00 100 1=01 11= 71.75
3: AlaricWB704 9.0/16 0=0 =11 ···· 1010 1== 011 70.00
4: Colossus2007b 8.5/17 0=0 011 0101 ···· 1=0= 011 66.50
5: Petir439 7.5/17 1=0 0=10 0== 0=1= ···· =01 63.50
6: Movei00_8_423 5.0/16 1000 00= 100 100 =10 ···· 44.25

50 of 90 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

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And this is with mobilitydivider 512 against other engines

Engine Score Ru Mo Mo Al Co Wi S-B
1: Ruffian_105 18.5/30 ······ ==1101 =01101 0=11=0 11=111 =10=0= 264.50
2: Movei00_8_423 17.0/30 ==0010 ······ ==1101 =110=0 1=0100 1=1111 239.75
3: Movei00_8_421 15.5/30 =10010 ==0010 ······ 01011= 100=0= 11=111 222.00
4: AlaricWB704 14.5/30 1=00=1 =001=1 10100= ······ 011=11 0=0010 219.50
5: Colossus2007b 12.5/30 00=000 0=1011 011=1= 100=00 ······ 001011 188.50
6: WildCat_7 12.0/30 =01=1= 0=0000 00=000 1=1101 110100 ······ 183.75

90 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
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I want to be sure that 5.0/16 is with the same knight_square_table,bishop_square_table and bigpositional_opening and bigpositional_endgame personality because I expect only having mobilitydivider 64 to perform worse without the other changes.

Here is the personality that I tested again that performed well against default 423 but of course I know that there were not enough games.

knight_square_table 210 345 345 345 345 345 345 210 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 220 320 340 340 340 340 320 220 bishop_square_table 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 300 355 355 355 355 355 355 300 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 mobilitydivider 64 bigpositional_opening 135 bigpositional_endgame 135

Uri

[pichy]

final result of the 100 game match at 1000000 nodes per move
41-27 with 32 draws.

Uri

This is with mobilitydivider 64 against other engines Movei423 is NOT doing as good as with mobilitydivider 512

Engine Score Ru Wi Al Co Pe Mo S-B
1: Ruffian_105 11.0/17 ···· 010= 1=1 1=1 0=1 0111 83.50
2: WildCat_7 9.0/17 101= ···· =00 100 1=01 11= 71.75
3: AlaricWB704 9.0/16 0=0 =11 ···· 1010 1== 011 70.00
4: Colossus2007b 8.5/17 0=0 011 0101 ···· 1=0= 011 66.50
5: Petir439 7.5/17 1=0 0=10 0== 0=1= ···· =01 63.50
6: Movei00_8_423 5.0/16 1000 00= 100 100 =10 ···· 44.25

50 of 90 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

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And this is with mobilitydivider 512 against other engines

Engine Score Ru Mo Mo Al Co Wi S-B
1: Ruffian_105 18.5/30 ······ ==1101 =01101 0=11=0 11=111 =10=0= 264.50
2: Movei00_8_423 17.0/30 ==0010 ······ ==1101 =110=0 1=0100 1=1111 239.75
3: Movei00_8_421 15.5/30 =10010 ==0010 ······ 01011= 100=0= 11=111 222.00
4: AlaricWB704 14.5/30 1=00=1 =001=1 10100= ······ 011=11 0=0010 219.50
5: Colossus2007b 12.5/30 00=000 0=1011 011=1= 100=00 ······ 001011 188.50
6: WildCat_7 12.0/30 =01=1= 0=0000 00=000 1=1101 110100 ······ 183.75

90 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

I want to be sure that 5.0/16 is with the same knight_square_table,bishop_square_table and bigpositional_opening and bigpositional_endgame personality because I expect only having mobilitydivider 64 to perform worse without the other changes.

Here is the personality that I tested again that performed well against default 423 but of course I know that there were not enough games.

knight_square_table 210 345 345 345 345 345 345 210 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 220 320 340 340 340 340 320 220 bishop_square_table 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 300 355 355 355 355 355 355 300 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 mobilitydivider 64 bigpositional_opening 135 bigpositional_endgame 135

Uri

Engine Score Ph Fr Ru Mo Al Wi Co Pe S-B
1: Pharaon 18.0/28 ···· 111= 0==1 0010 111= =0=0 1111 ==11 239.75
2: Fruit20-fast 16.0/28 000= ···· 0=11 =01= =011 1111 =1=1 =001 214.00
3: Ruffian_105 15.0/28 1==0 1=00 ···· 0=11 =010 1011 1=10 =0=1 205.25
4: Movei00_8_423 14.5/28 1101 =10= 1=00 ···· 1100 1010 100= 10=1 203.50
5: AlaricWB704 14.5/28 000= =100 =101 0011 ···· =101 01=0 1111 184.75
6: WildCat_7 13.0/28 =1=1 0000 0100 0101 =010 ···· 1011 101= 178.50
7: Colossus2007b 12.5/28 0000 =0=0 0=01 011= 10=1 0100 ···· 1111 158.00
8: Petir439 8.5/28 ==00 =110 =1=0 01=0 0000 010= 0000 ···· 129.25

112 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

[Uri Blass]

Based on more tests it is not clear if the new personality is better.

results against fruit2.0 is bad when result against itself in 2,000,000 nodes per moves is worse(24-14 and 34 draws for the default).

Uri

[pichy]

Based on more tests it is not clear if the new personality is better.

results against fruit2.0 is bad when result against itself in 2,000,000 nodes per moves is worse(24-14 and 34 draws for the default).

Uri

Fruit2.0 is a hard opponent for movei423, I also had a bad result against Fruit2.0, but that is how it is, at least it is showing an improvement against the majority of the programs that are withing its strength range

Engine Score Fr Mo S-B
1: Fruit20-fast 46.5/80 ················································································ 11=01==100=101=0=0=1==11111010=111110=0=10=01=0=111=0=0=0=110=111011=01=1=10==01 1557.7
2: Movei00_8_423 33.5/80 00=10==011=010=1=1=0==00000101=000001=1=01=10=1=000=1=1=1=001=000100=10=0=01==10 ················································································ 1557.7

80 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

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Engine Score Ph Fr Ru Mo Al Wi Co Pe S-B
1: Pharaon 18.0/28 ···· 111= 0==1 0010 111= =0=0 1111 ==11 239.75
2: Fruit20-fast 16.0/28 000= ···· 0=11 =01= =011 1111 =1=1 =001 214.00
3: Ruffian_105 15.0/28 1==0 1=00 ···· 0=11 =010 1011 1=10 =0=1 205.25
4: Movei00_8_423 14.5/28 1101 =10= 1=00 ···· 1100 1010 100= 10=1 203.50
5: AlaricWB704 14.5/28 000= =100 =101 0011 ···· =101 01=0 1111 184.75
6: WildCat_7 13.0/28 =1=1 0000 0100 0101 =010 ···· 1011 101= 178.50
7: Colossus2007b 12.5/28 0000 =0=0 0=01 011= 10=1 0100 ···· 1111 158.00
8: Petir439 8.5/28 ==00 =110 =1=0 01=0 0000 010= 0000 ···· 129.25

112 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

[pichy]

final result of the 100 game match at 1000000 nodes per move
41-27 with 32 draws.

Uri

This is with mobilitydivider 64 against other engines Movei423 is NOT doing as good as with mobilitydivider 512

Engine Score Ru Wi Al Co Pe Mo S-B
1: Ruffian_105 11.0/17 ···· 010= 1=1 1=1 0=1 0111 83.50
2: WildCat_7 9.0/17 101= ···· =00 100 1=01 11= 71.75
3: AlaricWB704 9.0/16 0=0 =11 ···· 1010 1== 011 70.00
4: Colossus2007b 8.5/17 0=0 011 0101 ···· 1=0= 011 66.50
5: Petir439 7.5/17 1=0 0=10 0== 0=1= ···· =01 63.50
6: Movei00_8_423 5.0/16 1000 00= 100 100 =10 ···· 44.25

50 of 90 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

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And this is with mobilitydivider 512 against other engines

Engine Score Ru Mo Mo Al Co Wi S-B
1: Ruffian_105 18.5/30 ······ ==1101 =01101 0=11=0 11=111 =10=0= 264.50
2: Movei00_8_423 17.0/30 ==0010 ······ ==1101 =110=0 1=0100 1=1111 239.75
3: Movei00_8_421 15.5/30 =10010 ==0010 ······ 01011= 100=0= 11=111 222.00
4: AlaricWB704 14.5/30 1=00=1 =001=1 10100= ······ 011=11 0=0010 219.50
5: Colossus2007b 12.5/30 00=000 0=1011 011=1= 100=00 ······ 001011 188.50
6: WildCat_7 12.0/30 =01=1= 0=0000 00=000 1=1101 110100 ······ 183.75

90 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

I want to be sure that 5.0/16 is with the same knight_square_table,bishop_square_table and bigpositional_opening and bigpositional_endgame personality because I expect only having mobilitydivider 64 to perform worse without the other changes.

Here is the personality that I tested again that performed well against default 423 but of course I know that there were not enough games.

knight_square_table 210 345 345 345 345 345 345 210 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 220 320 340 340 340 340 320 220 bishop_square_table 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 300 355 355 355 355 355 355 300 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 mobilitydivider 64 bigpositional_opening 135 bigpositional_endgame 135

Uri

Engine Score Ph Fr Ru Mo Al Wi Co Pe S-B
1: Pharaon 18.0/28 ···· 111= 0==1 0010 111= =0=0 1111 ==11 239.75
2: Fruit20-fast 16.0/28 000= ···· 0=11 =01= =011 1111 =1=1 =001 214.00
3: Ruffian_105 15.0/28 1==0 1=00 ···· 0=11 =010 1011 1=10 =0=1 205.25
4: Movei00_8_423 14.5/28 1101 =10= 1=00 ···· 1100 1010 100= 10=1 203.50
5: AlaricWB704 14.5/28 000= =100 =101 0011 ···· =101 01=0 1111 184.75
6: WildCat_7 13.0/28 =1=1 0000 0100 0101 =010 ···· 1011 101= 178.50
7: Colossus2007b 12.5/28 0000 =0=0 0=01 011= 10=1 0100 ···· 1111 158.00
8: Petir439 8.5/28 ==00 =110 =1=0 01=0 0000 010= 0000 ···· 129.25

112 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

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Uri here is a new personality for Movei423

knight_square_table 210 345 345 345 345 345 345 210 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 345 220 320 340 340 340 340 320 220 bishop_square_table 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 300 355 355 355 355 355 355 300 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 355 mobilitydivider 128 bigpositional_opening 140 bigpositional_endgame 140
loghash 21 loghasheval 18



Engine Score Mo Ru S-B
1: Movei00_8_423 18.0/30 ====001======1111=100==1==111= 216.00
2: Ruffian_105 12.0/30 ====110======0000=011==0==000= 216.00

30 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:


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Engine Score Fr Mo Ru S-B
1: Fruit20-fast 43.0/60 1===11=11=1===1=1111==100=111= 0=11=111110111=11==11001=111=0 1010.5

2: Movei00_8_423 26.5/60 0===00=00=0===0=0000==011=000= ====001======1111=100==1==111= 734.50

3: Ruffian_105 20.5/60 1=00=000001000=00==00110=000=1 ====110======0000=011==0==000= 683.50

90 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge, United States
Level: Tournament 40/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz with 512MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address: