6th Amateur Championship Division 4

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Which three engines will gain promotion?

Poll ended at Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:38 am

BBChess 1.2a
0
No votes
DanaSah 3.13
2
29%
Hermann 2.0
2
29%
Alfil 7.6
1
14%
Flux 2.2
1
14%
Aice 0.99.2
0
No votes
Aice 0.99.2
0
No votes
Homer 2.01
0
No votes
Horizon 4.3
0
No votes
Cyrano 0.2d
1
14%
One of the other engines
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 7

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6th Amateur Championship Division 4

Post by Graham Banks » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:38 am

6TH CCRL AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP (Division 4)

Athlon MP2800+
Fritz 10 GUI
128mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
HS-8moves.ctg book
40 moves in 54 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL 40/40)
2 cycles (30 rounds)
The top seven engines are likely to be promoted into Division 3 for the following season while no engines are likely to be relegated due to the pending retirement of the engines marked in green.
Updated versions will not be introduced during the tournament.
Participants

BBChess 1.2a
DanaSah 3.13
Hermann 2.0
Alfil 7.6
Flux 2.2
Aice 0.99.2
Homer 2.01
Horizon 4.3
Natwarlal 0.14
KnightX 1.92
Arion 1.7
Xpdnt 071115
NanoSzachy 3.0
Little Thought 1.02
Ant 2006-F
Cyrano 0.2d

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The tournament can be followed and games downloaded after each round from here:
http://kirr.homeunix.org/chess/discussi ... f=7&t=2904
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Re: 6th Amateur Championship Division 4

Post by swami » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:04 am

Danasah
Hermann
Alfil

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Re: 6th Amateur Championship Division 4

Post by Graham Banks » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:35 am

I'll go for:

Cyrano
DanaSah
Hermann
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Standings after Round 5 of 30

Post by Graham Banks » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:50 am

6TH CCRL AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP (Division 4)

Athlon MP2800+
Fritz 10 GUI
128mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
HS-8moves.ctg book
40 moves in 54 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL 40/40)
2 cycles (30 rounds)
The top seven engines are likely to be promoted into Division 3 for the following season while no engines are likely to be relegated due to the pending retirement of the engines marked in green.
Updated versions will not be introduced during the tournament.
Standings after Round 5

4.5 - Little Thought 1.02
4.0 - Cyrano 0.2d
3.5 - Horizon 4.3
3.5 - NanoSzachy 3.0
3.5 - Ant 2006-F
3.5 - Homer 2.01
2.5 - BBChess 1.2a

2.5 - Arion 1.7
2.0 - Alfil 7.6
2.0 - Aice 0.99.2
2.0 - KnightX 1.92
2.0 - Natwarlal 0.14
1.5 - Hermann 2.0
1.5 - Flux 2.2
1.5 - DanaSah 3.13
0.0 - Xpdnt 071115


The tournament can be followed and games downloaded after each round from here:
http://kirr.homeunix.org/chess/discussi ... f=7&t=2904
Last edited by Graham Banks on Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:56 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Standings after Round 10 of 30

Post by Graham Banks » Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:03 am

6TH CCRL AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP (Division 4)

Athlon MP2800+
Fritz 10 GUI
128mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
HS-8moves.ctg book
40 moves in 54 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL 40/40)
2 cycles (30 rounds)
The top seven engines are likely to be promoted into Division 3 for the following season while no engines are likely to be relegated due to the pending retirement of the engines marked in green.
Updated versions will not be introduced during the tournament.
Standings after Round 10

7.5 - Cyrano 0.2d
7.5 - Homer 2.01
6.0 - Alfil 7.6
6.0 - Arion 1.7
6.0 - Ant 2006-F
6.0 - NanoSzachy 3.0
5.5 - Little Thought 1.02

5.0 - Horizon 4.3
5.0 - KnightX 1.92
5.0 - BBChess 1.2a
4.0 - DanaSah 3.13
4.0 - Aice 0.99.2
4.0 - Natwarlal 0.14
3.5 - Flux 2.2
3.5 - Hermann 2.0
1.5 - Xpdnt 071115


The tournament can be followed and games downloaded after each round from here:
http://kirr.homeunix.org/chess/discussi ... f=7&t=2904
Last edited by Graham Banks on Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Standings after Round 15 of 30

Post by Graham Banks » Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:22 pm

6TH CCRL AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP (Division 4)

Athlon MP2800+
Fritz 10 GUI
128mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
HS-8moves.ctg book
40 moves in 54 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL 40/40)
2 cycles (30 rounds)
The top seven engines are likely to be promoted into Division 3 for the following season while no engines are likely to be relegated due to the pending retirement of the engines marked in green.
Updated versions will not be introduced during the tournament.
Standings after Round 15

11.5 - Homer 2.01
11.0 - Cyrano 0.2d
9.0 - Little Thought 1.02
8.5 - BBChess 1.2a

8.5 - KnightX 1.92
8.0 - Alfil 7.6
7.5 - Arion 1.7
7.5 - NanoSzachy 3.0

7.5 - Natwarlal 0.14
7.0 - Flux 2.2
7.0 - Hermann 2.0
6.5 - Aice 0.99.2
6.0 - Ant 2006-F
6.0 - DanaSah 3.13
5.5 - Horizon 4.3
3.0 - Xpdnt 071115


The tournament can be followed and games downloaded after each round from here:
http://kirr.homeunix.org/chess/discussi ... f=7&t=2904
Last edited by Graham Banks on Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Standings after Round 20 of 30

Post by Graham Banks » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:54 am

6TH CCRL AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP (Division 4)

Athlon MP2800+
Fritz 10 GUI
128mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
HS-8moves.ctg book
40 moves in 54 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL 40/40)
2 cycles (30 rounds)
The top seven engines are likely to be promoted into Division 3 for the following season while no engines are likely to be relegated due to the pending retirement of the engines marked in green.
Updated versions will not be introduced during the tournament.
Standings after Round 20

15.5 - Homer 2.01
14.5 - Cyrano 0.2d

11.5 - KnightX 1.92
11.5 - Natwarlal 0.14
11.0 - BBChess 1.2a
11.0 - Little Thought 1.02
10.5 - Alfil 7.6
10.0 - Arion 1.7

10.0 - Horizon 4.3
9.5 - Hermann 2.0
9.5 - NanoSzachy 3.0
8.5 - Aice 0.99.2
8.0 - Ant 2006-F
7.5 - Flux 2.2
7.0 - DanaSah 3.13
4.5 - Xpdnt 071115


The tournament can be followed and games downloaded after each round from here:
http://kirr.homeunix.org/chess/discussi ... f=7&t=2904
Last edited by Graham Banks on Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Standings after Round 20 of 30

Post by swami » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:24 am

What's up with Dansah and Hermann, I guess they are good blitzers...long time control and blitz does differ?it would be good if it differs, that way we can see which programs are good blitzer and viceversa...as opposed to relying on our popular belief that most programs play at their level at any time control.

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Re: Standings after Round 20 of 30

Post by Graham Banks » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:40 am

swami wrote:What's up with Dansah and Hermann
I guess that these things can happen in tournaments.
Hermann is not too far off the top, but DanaSah has certainly had a disappointing time of it.
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Re: Standings after Round 20 of 30

Post by pedrox » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:16 pm

DanaSah is an engine that plays better blitz, it is safe, for example, last year in CTT9 I had many problems with the games slow and finish on the post 30-35, in contrast to the tournament blitz was on the post 12-15 and playing every game against the best programs. The best result of DanaSah I think that has been reaching the second division of Swami even in the third division were Movei or Crafty.

Do DanaSah worse in games played slow? Well, I am not sure, in Wbec I always have good results, now DanaSah is very close to the head, and far of engines as AICE or ANT, the same as DanaSah, Hermann. DanaSah and Hermann have done well in OpenWar remaining in the post 20 and 21, over many engines that play in this division.

So it is difficult to draw conclusions.

In my opinion DanaSah prefer:

- DanaSah likes to use as a GUI Winboard, likes to use own books version 3 or below, he likes to ponder (I think danasah has a bad time management and ponder helps adjusting, WBEC and OpenWar have ponder and own books).

- I am also certain otherwise, DanaSah prefers engines as rivals to the second or third division of Graham, he plays better against Chessmaster, Crafty, Trace that against BBChess for example, the latest version of DanaSah has taken nearly 40/40 2650 points when he played with better engines and yet playing with the fourth division have problems with the 2500 points.

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