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Uri, did you ever thought of surpasing Chess Tiger & Pro

Post by pichy » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:10 am

Congratulations on being able to catch up with Pro Deo and Chess Tiger in such a short period of time. I know that back 2 years ago you never thought of your program reaching the same level of play of Pro Deo and Chess Tiger.

PS: Hope that in another year movei will be one of the strongest 6 commecial programs available.


http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/1stdiv.htm

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Re: Uri, did you ever thought of surpasing Chess Tiger &

Post by Tony Thomas » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:28 pm

Why do you want movei to go commercial? I like it as is, free. Movei was never much weaker than Prodeo, and I doubt that Movei has caught up with Chess Tiger. Results of one tournament proves hardly anything.

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Re: Uri, did you ever thought of surpasing Chess Tiger &

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:18 pm

Tony Thomas wrote:Why do you want movei to go commercial? I like it as is, free. Movei was never much weaker than Prodeo, and I doubt that Movei has caught up with Chess Tiger. Results of one tournament proves hardly anything.
Correct to say the least....
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Re: Uri, did you ever thought of surpasing Chess Tiger &

Post by Uri Blass » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:26 pm

Tony Thomas wrote:Why do you want movei to go commercial? I like it as is, free. Movei was never much weaker than Prodeo, and I doubt that Movei has caught up with Chess Tiger. Results of one tournament proves hardly anything.
I do not know but
Movei may be better than tiger at long time control

CCRL 40/40

http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.l ... t_all.html

Chess Tiger 2007 2795 +16 −16 42.5% +51.1 40.0% 1359
51.9%
Chess Tiger 2007.1 2794 +14 −14 43.2% +45.5 41.5% 1601
Movei 00.8.438 (10 10 10) 2766 +42 −42 48.9% +4.8 33.7% 181
Movei 00.8.438 2750 +21 −20 53.1% −20.1 38.3% 772

CCRL 40/4

http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404.li ... t_all.html

Chess Tiger 2007.1 2817 +12 −12 47.6% +16.9 37.4% 2339
49.3%
Chess Tiger 2007 2801 +9 −9 44.9% +37.3 33.8% 4416

Movei 00.8.438(10 10 10) 2731 +17 −17 49.8% +2.1 32.2% 1210
Movei 00.8.438 2700 +25 −25 42.8% +48.6 29.2% 571

You can see that the gap at 40/40 is smaller than the gap at 40/4 and it is logical to suspect that movei starts to be better than tiger at longer time control.

40/40 with ponder on in WBEC is longer time control than 40/40 ponder off of CCRL.

Uri

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Re: Uri, did you ever thought of surpasing Chess Tiger &

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:07 pm

Uri Blass wrote:
Tony Thomas wrote:Why do you want movei to go commercial? I like it as is, free. Movei was never much weaker than Prodeo, and I doubt that Movei has caught up with Chess Tiger. Results of one tournament proves hardly anything.
I do not know but
Movei may be better than tiger at long time control

CCRL 40/40

http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.l ... t_all.html

Chess Tiger 2007 2795 +16 −16 42.5% +51.1 40.0% 1359
51.9%
Chess Tiger 2007.1 2794 +14 −14 43.2% +45.5 41.5% 1601
Movei 00.8.438 (10 10 10) 2766 +42 −42 48.9% +4.8 33.7% 181
Movei 00.8.438 2750 +21 −20 53.1% −20.1 38.3% 772

CCRL 40/4

http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404.li ... t_all.html

Chess Tiger 2007.1 2817 +12 −12 47.6% +16.9 37.4% 2339
49.3%
Chess Tiger 2007 2801 +9 −9 44.9% +37.3 33.8% 4416

Movei 00.8.438(10 10 10) 2731 +17 −17 49.8% +2.1 32.2% 1210
Movei 00.8.438 2700 +25 −25 42.8% +48.6 29.2% 571

You can see that the gap at 40/40 is smaller than the gap at 40/4 and it is logical to suspect that movei starts to be better than tiger at longer time control.

40/40 with ponder on in WBEC is longer time control than 40/40 ponder off of CCRL.

Uri
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Re: Uri, did you ever thought of surpasing Chess Tiger &

Post by Norm Pollock » Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:37 am

Hi Uri,

How can I implement the "10 10 10" setting with version 8_438? I do not have any docs.

Btw, the number of games at wbec is much smaller than the number of games at ccrl.

-Norm

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Re: Uri, did you ever thought of surpasing Chess Tiger &

Post by Graham Banks » Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:42 am

Norm Pollock wrote:Hi Uri,

How can I implement the "10 10 10" setting with version 8_438? I do not have any docs.

Btw, the number of games at wbec is much smaller than the number of games at ccrl.

-Norm
Hi Norm,

if you're using a Chessbase GUI, the three progress settings will be in the engine parameters that you can load, change and save.

In the Shredder and Arena GUIs, once the engine is loaded, right click on the engine name in the bottom pane. Then you can set the parameters.
You will need to "create a new engine" by doing this in the Shredder GUI.

Regards, Graham.
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Re: Uri, did you ever thought of surpasing Chess Tiger &

Post by Norm Pollock » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:24 am

Thanks Graham.

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Re: Uri, did you ever thought of surpasing Chess Tiger &

Post by Uri Blass » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:27 am

Norm Pollock wrote:Hi Uri,

How can I implement the "10 10 10" setting with version 8_438? I do not have any docs.

Btw, the number of games at wbec is much smaller than the number of games at ccrl.

-Norm
You can also use movei as winboard engine with personality 10 10 10

When you get movei you get changes file
You can add to this file the following:
progress 10 10 10 0

Uri

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