SSDF results on a Quad 6600

[Vinvin]

I made a search in the forum on : "q6600 ended"

Here are the results I found :

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Shredder 8 MP Q6600 - Fritz 9 A1200,            ended 26-14
Deep Fritz 8 Q6600-Deep Junior 10.1 Q6600       ended 17-23
Shredder 8 MP Q6600-Zap!Chess Zanzibar A1200    ended 25-15
Hiarcs 11.2 MP Q6600-Deep Junior 10.1 Q6600     ended 22-18
Shredder 8 MP Q6600 - Hiarcs 10 A1200           ended 28½-11½
Shredder 8 MP Q6600 - Junior 10.1 A1200         ended 22 - 18
Deep Junior 10.1 Q6600 - Fritz 9 A1200          ended 27½-12½
Deep Shredder 11 Q6600-Zappa Mexico II Q6600    ended 17½-22½
Deep Shredder 11 Q6600-Hiarcs 11.1 A1200        ended 30.5-9.5
Deep Shredder 11 Q6600-Shredder 8 MP Q6600      ended 27-13
Deep Junior 10.1 Q6600 - Hiarcs 11.1 A1200      ended 28-12
Deep Shredder 11 x64 Q6600 - Junior 10.1 A1200  ended 32-8
Deep Shredder11x64 Q6600 - Rybka 2.3.1 A1200    ended 29.5-10.5
Deep Shredder 11 Q6600-Hiarcs 11.2 MP Q6600     ended 21-19
Hiarcs 11.2 MP Q6600 - Shredder 10 A1200        ended 32-10
Deep Fritz 8 Q6600 - Junior 10.1 A1200          ended 21½-20½
Deep Shredder 11 Q6600-Deep Junior 10.1 Q6600   ended 24-16
Hiarcs 11.2 MP Q6600 - Junior 10.1 A1200        ended 29½-14½
Shredder 11 x64 Q6600-Deep Fritz 8 Q6600        ended 29-11
Deep Fritz 8 Q6600 - Shredder 10 A1200          ended 28½-11½
Deep Fritz 8 Q6600-Hiarcs 11.1 A1200            ended 20½-19½

[Norm Pollock]

Imho, they should have separate download files for each of the 3 categories: A1200-A1200, A1200-Q6600 and Q6600-Q6600.

I can see the statistical need to have Q6600-A1200 games, but they do not interest me because they were not played on level terms.

[Bill Rogers]

Where are all the pgn's for us to download?
Thanks
Bill

[Spock]

I'm waiting for their ratings list update. They say they have many more games to play first

[Vinvin]

Some perf for engines who have played >100 games :
( Old ratings are here : http://ssdf.bosjo.net/list.htm )

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Shredder 8 MP Q6600 - Fritz 9 A1200       2803  ended  26-14 
Shredder 8 MP Q6600 -Zap!Chess Zanz A1200 2830  ended  25-15
Shredder 8 MP Q6600 - Hiarcs 10 A1200     2833  ended 28½-11½
Shredder 8 MP Q6600 - Junior 10.1 A1200   2861  ended  22-18

-> Shredder 8 MP Q6600 Perf on 160 games : 2939 !!



Deep Shredder 11 Q6600 - Hiarcs 11.1 A1200     2869  ended 30½-9½
Deep Shredder 11 x64 Q6600 - Junior 10.1 A1200 2861  ended  32-8
Deep Shredder 11 x64 Q6600 - Rybka 2.3.1 A1200 2935  ended 29½-10½

-> Deep Shredder 11x64 Q6600 Perf on 120 games : 3102 !!


Deep Fritz 8 Q6600 - Junior 10.1 A1200 2861      ended 21½-20½
Deep Fritz 8 Q6600 - Shredder 10 A1200 2824      ended 28½-11½
Deep Fritz 8 Q6600 - Hiarcs 11.1 A1200 2869      ended 20½-19½

-> Deep Fritz 8 Q6600 Perf on 120 games : 2921 !!

[Norm Pollock]

Some perf for engines who have played >100 games :
( Old ratings are here : http://ssdf.bosjo.net/list.htm )

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Shredder 8 MP Q6600 - Fritz 9 A1200       2803  ended  26-14 
Shredder 8 MP Q6600 -Zap!Chess Zanz A1200 2830  ended  25-15
Shredder 8 MP Q6600 - Hiarcs 10 A1200     2833  ended 28½-11½
Shredder 8 MP Q6600 - Junior 10.1 A1200   2861  ended  22-18

-> Shredder 8 MP Q6600 Perf on 160 games : 2939 !!



Deep Shredder 11 Q6600 - Hiarcs 11.1 A1200     2869  ended 30½-9½
Deep Shredder 11 x64 Q6600 - Junior 10.1 A1200 2861  ended  32-8
Deep Shredder 11 x64 Q6600 - Rybka 2.3.1 A1200 2935  ended 29½-10½

-> Deep Shredder 11x64 Q6600 Perf on 120 games : 3102 !!


Deep Fritz 8 Q6600 - Junior 10.1 A1200 2861      ended 21½-20½
Deep Fritz 8 Q6600 - Shredder 10 A1200 2824      ended 28½-11½
Deep Fritz 8 Q6600 - Hiarcs 11.1 A1200 2869      ended 20½-19½

-> Deep Fritz 8 Q6600 Perf on 120 games : 2921 !!

Apples against oranges. Q6600 against A1200. I think you should only measure Q6600 based engines on performances against other Q6600 engines.

[Tony Thomas]

When you integrate new engines to a list, then you have to use few engines to measure comparative strength. Otherwise, you will end up with an independently hanging list that has no correlation to the previous one.

[Spock]

Agreed. We also play most of our quad engines against some good single CPU engines to make sure the list is joined-up. Of course the disparity isn't as great as the SSDF example where the hardware is very different. The only other alternative is two separate lists, which is possibly what Norm is suggesting

[Norm Pollock]

When you integrate new engines to a list, then you have to use few engines to measure comparative strength. Otherwise, you will end up with an independently hanging list that has no correlation to the previous one.

Somehow I don't like games where one engine has an enormous advantage at the start. That is the case when one engine is playing on an A1200, and the other is playing on a Q6600. Why integrate the list? Just close the old list, and start a new list for the Q6600. Mixing them up is very questionable, imho.

[Uri Blass]

When you integrate new engines to a list, then you have to use few engines to measure comparative strength. Otherwise, you will end up with an independently hanging list that has no correlation to the previous one.

Somehow I don't like games where one engine has an enormous advantage at the start. That is the case when one engine is playing on an A1200, and the other is playing on a Q6600. Why integrate the list? Just close the old list, and start a new list for the Q6600. Mixing them up is very questionable, imho.

One engine has an enormous advantage at the start also when the same hardware is used if one engine is called rybka and another engine is called Deep Fritz8.

Why mix rybka and non rybka in the same list?
Tell the ssdf to have one list for rybka engines and another list for weaker engines.

Note that I have no problem with having different hardware in the same list but if you have problems with it then you can also have
problems with different softwares because better software can also give enormous advantage.

Uri