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Re: Ippolito Robolito tournament/matches results?

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:27 pm

Guenther wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Guenther wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Eizenhammer wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
No comment....
This must be the Rybka 5 source code stolen....otherwise I have no explanation for the result :lol:

:wink:
Your never ending flooding is like an indoctrination, you have stated your opinion about 2000 times now, can't you leave some room for others??
Everybody knows now, that you have been disappointed by Vas, nobody knows why, maybe because of some book stuff, who cares, but please end this stupid campaign.
Please mind your own business and don't teach me/tell me what to do....
As for leaving some room to others,please be my guest,take your room....
Another day,another Rybka sectarian regards,
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_You_ are on a sectarian crusade, but of course you won't see it.
It will be interesting how much hundreds more of your wasted posts
will appear about your 'sectarian theme' until moderation will stop it.

Guenther

You can spare your usual mind your own business blabla if someoone
doesn't agree with your mantras.
Go on,push the complain button and report me....
I am in no way a sectarian,you are with all the Rybka's fanboys who jump all over anyone who dares to ask questions or doubt your prophet's words....
Dr.D
Of course you cannot see it because you are in the tunnel since long.
I hope Rolf can medicate this problem.

Guenther
A cheap shot and a cliche is my comment....an expected behaviour of a Rybka fanboy....
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Re: Ippolito Robolito tournament/matches results?

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:36 pm

Eizenhammer wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Please mind your own business and don't teach me/tell me what to do....
As for leaving some room to others,please be my guest,take your room....
Another day,another Rybka sectarian regards,
Dr.D
Well, everyting you write here is public, so it is my business, of course, like everybody else's. If you want to write whatever you want without beeing disturbed by the people who have to read your repetitive nonsense, do what should be recommended to most people who write 90% of the noise here: Start a diary.

This sectarian bullshit is not very clever, but everybody according to his abilities.
Believe me,I'm doing you a favor by using this word....

Anyway,as you can see,I'm starting to lose good friends of mine because of this stupid Rybka/Robbo issue,Rybka 3+ issue,the price policy of the upcoming Rybka 4 along with online rent system,etc....
But I will rise my voice and will continue to express my opinion without violating the charter of the forum or making personal attacks....unfortunately everybody can see that the Rybka fanboys are doing exactly this but this ain't stopping me....
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Re: Ippolito Robolito tournament/matches results?

Post by michiguel » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:36 pm

Vinvin wrote:I played a tournament last night to know more :

Rybka 3 2 CPU
vs RL0085e4 1 CPU

Condition :
Core2Duo 2.13 Ghz (Win 32 bits)
TC : 2 min + 2 sec
No ponder
an old HS-book (15 moves max)
No EGTB

1 Rybka 3 32-bit +26/-25/=65 50.43 58.5/116
2 RobboLito 0.085e4 w32 +25/-26/=65 49.57 57.5/116

Games are here : http://home.scarlet.be/vincentlejeune/Robbo-R3.pgn

So, latest Robbolito 1cpu is about the strength of R3 2 cpu. Very nice but not a big threat to Rybka 4 because Robbolito doesn't support multi-cpu !! ans doesn't support multi-lines for analyse neither !
In other words, Rybka 3 is stronger than RL, which is not what I have been hearing here.

Miguel

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Re: Ippolito Robolito tournament/matches results?

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:40 pm

michiguel wrote:
Vinvin wrote:I played a tournament last night to know more :

Rybka 3 2 CPU
vs RL0085e4 1 CPU

Condition :
Core2Duo 2.13 Ghz (Win 32 bits)
TC : 2 min + 2 sec
No ponder
an old HS-book (15 moves max)
No EGTB

1 Rybka 3 32-bit +26/-25/=65 50.43 58.5/116
2 RobboLito 0.085e4 w32 +25/-26/=65 49.57 57.5/116

Games are here : http://home.scarlet.be/vincentlejeune/Robbo-R3.pgn

So, latest Robbolito 1cpu is about the strength of R3 2 cpu. Very nice but not a big threat to Rybka 4 because Robbolito doesn't support multi-cpu !! ans doesn't support multi-lines for analyse neither !
In other words, Rybka 3 is stronger than RL, which is not what I have been hearing here.

Miguel
The 4CPU Rybka 3 is still superior to the SP RL from all the data I've seen till now....at best RL is about equal to 2CPU Rybka 3....
I didn't made any tests yet and most probably won't because there is a possibilty that I will be terminated by one of the Rybka fanboys :lol:

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Re: Ippolito Robolito tournament/matches results?

Post by George Tsavdaris » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:03 pm

mariaclara wrote:Yes. I know links to the engines are banned.

:D just wondering if anyone has results of these 2 "bandit" engines vs
other hi-elo engines.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 CPU for both.
128 MB hash.
Permanent Brain OFF.
Time control 1'+1"
Noomen test suite 2008, by alternating colors.

Results:

Code: Select all

1   Robbolito 0.0085d3 w32       +20/-13/=27 55.83%  33.5/60
2   Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit         +13/-20/=27 44.17%  26.5/60
Results:

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1   Robbolito 0.0085e4 w32       +21/-11/=28 58.33%  35.0/60
2   Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit         +11/-21/=28 41.67%  25.0/60
Results:

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1   Modified Robbolito w32      +18/-9/=33  57.50%   34.5/60
2   Robbolito 0.0085d3 w32       +9/-18/=33 42.50%   25.5/60
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

1 CPU for both.
128 MB hash.
Permanent Brain OFF.
Time control 4'+2"
Nunn test suite, by alternating colors.

Results:

Code: Select all

Robbolito 0.0085e4 w32  - Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit    +5 =13 -2
Modified Robbolito w32  - Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit    +6 =14 -0
Modified Robbolito w32  - Robbolito 0.0085e4 w32  +7 =11 -2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

1 CPU for both.
128 MB hash.
Permanent Brain OFF.
Time control 4'+2"
Nunn2 test suite, by alternating colors.

Results:

Code: Select all

Robbolito 0.0085e4 w32  - Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit    +14 =20 -6
Modified Robbolito w32  - Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit    +17 =19 -4
Modified Robbolito w32  - Robbolito 0.0085e4 w32  +16 =19 -5
Modified Robbolito w32  - Robbolito 0.0085d3 w32  +12 =22 -6
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

1 CPU for both.
128 MB hash.
Permanent Brain OFF.
Time control 1'+1"
Nunn2 test suite, by alternating colors.

Code: Select all

1   Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit       +11/-9/=20  52.50%   21.0/40
2   Robbolito 0.0085d3 w32      +9/-11/=20 47.50%  19.0/40
Here Rybka wins!


Note that Modified Robbolito w32 is a modified Robbolito from the source code of Robbolito c2(or 3 i don't remember) from a well known programmer of a top Chess program that i'm beta testing his program for a long time.
Note also that i explicitly say that i have not played the games of Modified Robbolito w32 and that i don't have this modified Robbolito version and that he didn't give me any other version of the possibly cloned engine(Robbolito possible clone of Rybka 3).

Robbolito seems indeed stronger than Rybka 3 in short time controls as almost all test results of most people say. Playing style is different also.
I'm not sure whether this could have easily been changed and keep at the same time the playing level high enough to keep the strength of the original version(that is Rybka 3-- if Robbolito is a clone).
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Re: Ippolito Robolito tournament/matches results?

Post by Eizenhammer » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:16 pm

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote: But I will raise my voice and will continue to express my opinion blablabla
Wow, this is a real surprise: You may remember that this was my point: You h a v e expressed your opinion more than enough, all you do now is just flooding and a try in brainwashing, and if you think everybody accepts this, you are just wrong.
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:blablabla that the Rybka fanboys blablabla
Dr.D
Stupid bullshit, like the rest: That you flood the forum has nothing to do with rybka or fanboys, a stupid beat me to death argument, but of course: Everybody to his abilities.
You dont fight for any right or whatever, you just cant stop saying "boohooh", like an automat. No wonder you lose friends, everybody sees it is just personal, nothing else.

Hart

Re: Ippolito Robolito tournament/matches results?

Post by Hart » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:14 am

40/4

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Rank Name                    Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws
   1 RobboLito d9 x64         75   16   16   592   68%   -39   44%
   2 Rybka 3                  24   17   17   501   53%     1   49%
   3 Naum 4                  -99   17   18   517   27%    54   37% 
5 second games

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Rank Name                    Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws
   1 RobboLito d3 x64       3329    7    6  2819   71%  3177   27%
   2 Rybka 3                3177    6    7  2819   29%  3329   27% 
40/40

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Rank Name                    Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 RobboLito 0.085e4 x64     7   18   18   200   53%    -7   67% 
   2 Rybka 3                  -7   18   18   200   48%     7   67% 
Maybe someone could offer an explanation as to why the difference at 5 second games is 152 Elo and at 40/40 it is 14 Elo. Something to do with diminishing returns?

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Re: Ippolito Robolito tournament/matches results?

Post by mhalstern » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:09 am

All Games G 18 Single Core.

1 2
1 RobboLito 0.085d1 w32 +1 -1 61.0/74
4 4
2 Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit -½ +½ 3.5/6
4 4
3 Zappa Mexico II +1 -0 1.0/2
4 4
4 DanaSah 3.97b FRC +½ -½ 1.0/2
4 4
5 Stockfish 1.2 +½ -½ 1.0/2
4 4
6 Toga II 2.0 SE +½ -0 1.0/4
4 4
7 ThinkerUCI +½ -0 0.5/2
4 4
8 Crafty 22.6 +½ -0 0.5/2
4 4
9 WildCat 8 UCI +0 -½ 0.5/2
4 4
10 Hamsters 0.7.1 +½ -0 0.5/2
4 4
11 Fritz 8 +0 -½ 0.5/2
4 4
12 Colossus 2007d +½ -0 0.5/2
4 4
13 Diablo 0.5.1 +½ -0 0.5/2
4 4
14 bright-0.3a +½ -0 0.5/2
4 4
15 Deep Sjeng 3.0 +½ -0 0.5/2
4 4
16 Twisted Logic 0.065e37 +½ -0 0.5/2
4 4
17 Strelka 2.0 B +½ -0 0.5/2
4 4
18 Movei00_8_438 +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4
19 Naum 2.0 -0 +0 0.0/2
4 4
20 Doch32 09.980 JA -0 +0 0.0/2
4 4
21 Bison 9.11 -0 +0 0.0/2
4 4
22 Ares 1.0 -0 +0 0.0/2
4 4
23 Glaurung 1.2.1 -0 +0 0.0/2
4 4
24 Fruit 2.1 -0 +0 0.0/2
4 4
25 Arasan 11.0 +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4
26 Rotor 0.4 +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4
27 Rybka 2.2n2 mp 32-bit +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4
28 Cheese 1.3 +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4
29 Fritz 11 +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4
30 Deep Sjeng WC2008 +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4
31 Strelka R-3-E +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4
32 Ufim 8.02 +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4
33 Ktulu 4.2 +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4
34 Crafty 20.14 w32 +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4
35 Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit +0 -0 0.0/2
4 4

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Re: Ippolito Robolito tournament/matches results?

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:24 am

Eizenhammer wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote: But I will raise my voice and will continue to express my opinion blablabla
Wow, this is a real surprise: You may remember that this was my point: You h a v e expressed your opinion more than enough, all you do now is just flooding and a try in brainwashing, and if you think everybody accepts this, you are just wrong.
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:blablabla that the Rybka fanboys blablabla
Dr.D
Stupid bullshit, like the rest: That you flood the forum has nothing to do with rybka or fanboys, a stupid beat me to death argument, but of course: Everybody to his abilities.
You dont fight for any right or whatever, you just cant stop saying "boohooh", like an automat. No wonder you lose friends, everybody sees it is just personal, nothing else.
Ya,ya,ya,ya....whatever....
Don't forget to say your Rybka pray before you sleep....

Dr.D
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Re: Ippolito Robolito tournament/matches results?

Post by playjunior » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:38 pm

So basically the consensus is that it is much better than R3 in shorter controls? And George has a version which is stronger than that?

It's kind of funny because I have analyzed 1 game with it and found a bug (it insists that I sac my Queen and drops eval by ~6 after that, and it does not go away).

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