Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

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yanquis1972
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Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Post by yanquis1972 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:22 pm

256MB Hash each, 3CPU each, heavily truncated book (3 moves), and i enabled 'enhanced time management' for firebird. hope to run to a decent # of games, & i think it's a good TC to get there & still find out if firebird is supreme at longer time control.

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Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Post by NATIONAL12 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:24 pm

yanquis1972 wrote:256MB Hash each, 3CPU each, heavily truncated book (3 moves), and i enabled 'enhanced time management' for firebird. hope to run to a decent # of games, & i think it's a good TC to get there & still find out if firebird is supreme at longer time control.
i think R3 might win this :)

i apologise for being rude to you last night.

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Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Post by beram » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:55 pm

dear John,

i ve just finished my first test with firebird 1.0. On my Compaq 6710b, T8100 , 2100 Mhz a Blitz 4m+2s Nunn2 testmatch. Both 2 CPU 64mb Hash.
An IMO almost unbelievable good result. The best in the Ip/Rob/Ig series sofar.

1 FireBird 1.0 beta w32 +20/=22/-8 62.00% 31.0/50
2 Rybka 3 32-bit +8/=22/-20 38.00% 19.0/50

Grts Bram 8-)

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Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Post by yanquis1972 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:10 pm

very interesting. someone was saying on another forum that the difference in strength between 32 bit versions is greater than the difference between 64 bit. no idea if this is true or not. that's also a faster TC than i'm testing with which favors the Ippolit family; i'll be be very pleasantly surprised if i get similar results. thanks for the info.

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Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Post by yanquis1972 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:13 pm

no problem. :)

rybka appears headed to even the match at 2 wins a piece. what you were saying about a lack of draws seems to be holding true here so far as well early on. as i said on the rybka board from what i have observed so far imo the style and eval is sufficiently different to cause this.

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Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Post by swami » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:14 am

yanquis1972 wrote:no problem. :)

rybka appears headed to even the match at 2 wins a piece. what you were saying about a lack of draws seems to be holding true here so far as well early on. as i said on the rybka board from what i have observed so far imo the style and eval is sufficiently different to cause this.
Igorrit_0086v9 and Robbolito 0.09 still seem to the best of all the versions from what I've read about results. :)

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Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Post by gerold » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:02 am

swami wrote:
yanquis1972 wrote:no problem. :)

rybka appears headed to even the match at 2 wins a piece. what you were saying about a lack of draws seems to be holding true here so far as well early on. as i said on the rybka board from what i have observed so far imo the style and eval is sufficiently different to cause this.
Igorrit_0086v9 and Robbolito 0.09 still seem to the best of all the versions from what I've read about results. :)
I have been keeping track of these diff. versions of Robb. and
now Firebird.
A couple of the Robb version were equal to Tankist 1.2. The
others were weaker. This is the 32 bit.i have been testing.
The latest Firebird appears to be the same as Taskist.1.2.

Firebird beta vs. Tankist 1.2 30/59 11-10-38.
Tankist 1.2 vs. Firebird beta 29/59 10-11-38.
Blitz 15/0.

Best,

Gerold.

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Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Post by Carlos777 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:53 am

gerold wrote: I have been keeping track of these diff. versions of Robb. and
now Firebird.
A couple of the Robb version were equal to Tankist 1.2. The
others were weaker. This is the 32 bit.i have been testing.
The latest Firebird appears to be the same as Taskist.1.2.

Firebird beta vs. Tankist 1.2 30/59 11-10-38.
Tankist 1.2 vs. Firebird beta 29/59 10-11-38.
Blitz 15/0.

Best,

Gerold.
Hi Gerold,

Tankist 1.2 is a clone of RL 0.085e4. Analyze a position with both engines and you will notice it.

Best,
Carlos

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Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Post by yanquis1972 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:14 pm

19 games in, Firebird with surprising results -- +7 =9 -3

i am temporarily aborting the match but will resume this afternoon with rybka contempt set to 0. i hope to get 50-100 games in.

regarding igorrit vs firebird, it seems close. my personal results were otherwise although marginal, & igorrit v9 still has problems at long TC, though i could probably run it at 15+10. also, no MPV etc. for these reasons i regard firebird as the more interesting engine right now.

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Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Post by Albert Silver » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:24 pm

Carlos777 wrote:
gerold wrote: I have been keeping track of these diff. versions of Robb. and
now Firebird.
A couple of the Robb version were equal to Tankist 1.2. The
others were weaker. This is the 32 bit.i have been testing.
The latest Firebird appears to be the same as Taskist.1.2.

Firebird beta vs. Tankist 1.2 30/59 11-10-38.
Tankist 1.2 vs. Firebird beta 29/59 10-11-38.
Blitz 15/0.

Best,

Gerold.
Hi Gerold,

Tankist 1.2 is a clone of RL 0.085e4. Analyze a position with both engines and you will notice it.

Best,
Carlos
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