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Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:22 pm
by yanquis1972
256MB Hash each, 3CPU each, heavily truncated book (3 moves), and i enabled 'enhanced time management' for firebird. hope to run to a decent # of games, & i think it's a good TC to get there & still find out if firebird is supreme at longer time control.

Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:24 pm
by NATIONAL12
yanquis1972 wrote:256MB Hash each, 3CPU each, heavily truncated book (3 moves), and i enabled 'enhanced time management' for firebird. hope to run to a decent # of games, & i think it's a good TC to get there & still find out if firebird is supreme at longer time control.
i think R3 might win this :)

i apologise for being rude to you last night.

Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:55 pm
by beram
dear John,

i ve just finished my first test with firebird 1.0. On my Compaq 6710b, T8100 , 2100 Mhz a Blitz 4m+2s Nunn2 testmatch. Both 2 CPU 64mb Hash.
An IMO almost unbelievable good result. The best in the Ip/Rob/Ig series sofar.

1 FireBird 1.0 beta w32 +20/=22/-8 62.00% 31.0/50
2 Rybka 3 32-bit +8/=22/-20 38.00% 19.0/50

Grts Bram 8-)

Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:10 am
by yanquis1972
very interesting. someone was saying on another forum that the difference in strength between 32 bit versions is greater than the difference between 64 bit. no idea if this is true or not. that's also a faster TC than i'm testing with which favors the Ippolit family; i'll be be very pleasantly surprised if i get similar results. thanks for the info.

Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:13 am
by yanquis1972
no problem. :)

rybka appears headed to even the match at 2 wins a piece. what you were saying about a lack of draws seems to be holding true here so far as well early on. as i said on the rybka board from what i have observed so far imo the style and eval is sufficiently different to cause this.

Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:14 am
by swami
yanquis1972 wrote:no problem. :)

rybka appears headed to even the match at 2 wins a piece. what you were saying about a lack of draws seems to be holding true here so far as well early on. as i said on the rybka board from what i have observed so far imo the style and eval is sufficiently different to cause this.
Igorrit_0086v9 and Robbolito 0.09 still seem to the best of all the versions from what I've read about results. :)

Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:02 am
by gerold
swami wrote:
yanquis1972 wrote:no problem. :)

rybka appears headed to even the match at 2 wins a piece. what you were saying about a lack of draws seems to be holding true here so far as well early on. as i said on the rybka board from what i have observed so far imo the style and eval is sufficiently different to cause this.
Igorrit_0086v9 and Robbolito 0.09 still seem to the best of all the versions from what I've read about results. :)
I have been keeping track of these diff. versions of Robb. and
now Firebird.
A couple of the Robb version were equal to Tankist 1.2. The
others were weaker. This is the 32 bit.i have been testing.
The latest Firebird appears to be the same as Taskist.1.2.

Firebird beta vs. Tankist 1.2 30/59 11-10-38.
Tankist 1.2 vs. Firebird beta 29/59 10-11-38.
Blitz 15/0.

Best,

Gerold.

Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:53 am
by Carlos777
gerold wrote: I have been keeping track of these diff. versions of Robb. and
now Firebird.
A couple of the Robb version were equal to Tankist 1.2. The
others were weaker. This is the 32 bit.i have been testing.
The latest Firebird appears to be the same as Taskist.1.2.

Firebird beta vs. Tankist 1.2 30/59 11-10-38.
Tankist 1.2 vs. Firebird beta 29/59 10-11-38.
Blitz 15/0.

Best,

Gerold.
Hi Gerold,

Tankist 1.2 is a clone of RL 0.085e4. Analyze a position with both engines and you will notice it.

Best,
Carlos

Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:14 pm
by yanquis1972
19 games in, Firebird with surprising results -- +7 =9 -3

i am temporarily aborting the match but will resume this afternoon with rybka contempt set to 0. i hope to get 50-100 games in.

regarding igorrit vs firebird, it seems close. my personal results were otherwise although marginal, & igorrit v9 still has problems at long TC, though i could probably run it at 15+10. also, no MPV etc. for these reasons i regard firebird as the more interesting engine right now.

Re: Firebird 1.0 beta vs Rybka 3, 15+10

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:24 pm
by Albert Silver
Carlos777 wrote:
gerold wrote: I have been keeping track of these diff. versions of Robb. and
now Firebird.
A couple of the Robb version were equal to Tankist 1.2. The
others were weaker. This is the 32 bit.i have been testing.
The latest Firebird appears to be the same as Taskist.1.2.

Firebird beta vs. Tankist 1.2 30/59 11-10-38.
Tankist 1.2 vs. Firebird beta 29/59 10-11-38.
Blitz 15/0.

Best,

Gerold.
Hi Gerold,

Tankist 1.2 is a clone of RL 0.085e4. Analyze a position with both engines and you will notice it.

Best,
Carlos
Please post code samples if you are going to make such blasphemous accusations. The authors of 0.085e4 worked very hard and, as their pages say, dedicated this noble work to the 92nd year of the Bolshevik Revolution, the Decembrists, the proletariat and Lenin. This alone is proof of its integrity.

It has taken great sweat and effort to introduce these unique works, and clearly 92 years of Bolshevism has finally coincided in this wave of mass genius leading to so many unique 3200+ engines at once.

Take your your capitalist envy elsewhere.