GM Kaufman v.Novag Constellation 3.6 QR Odds (Moves 1-40)

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Re: GM Kaufman v. Novag Constellation 3.6 QR Odds Game

Post by Terry McCracken » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:21 pm

Steve B wrote:
lkaufman wrote: I play 38.Bd3, which seems to win another Exchange unless I'm missing something. This looks like a five ply sequence to me, so my guess is that Connie only managed 4 plies in this position. It looks like I'll have queen vs. rook and five pawns, a very unusual material balance. Whether having the queen is good for more than perpetual check remains to be seen.
Connie mounts her high horse and plays the quiet Intermezzo...
38..Nf4
[d] 6k1/p1pr1p1p/1p4q1/5r2/3p1nRB/3B2Q1/P7/6K1 w - - 0 39

High-Ho Silver..Regards
Steve
It's Connie's best move, infact the Connie has been playing some really sensible moves after putting her Queen where the h-pawn should've secured.

Not many choices for White, 39. Qf3 which is drawn technically or 39. Rxg6+!?..hg followed by 40. Qe1 creating some imbalance that the Connie might not handle correctly.

There's also 39. Bxf5?!..Ne2+ but that road seems to be in favour of the Connie.

I think Larry's next move will be 39. Rxg6+ and play for complications, now and for the Endgame to turn it around in his favour.

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Re: GM Kaufman v. Novag Constellation 3.6 QR Odds Game

Post by lkaufman » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:29 pm

Steve B wrote: Connie mounts her high horse and plays the quiet Intermezzo...
38..Nf4
[d] 6k1/p1pr1p1p/1p4q1/5r2/3p1nRB/3B2Q1/P7/6K1 w - - 0 39

High-Ho Silver..Regards
Steve
I play 39Rxg6+. I better take the queen before it somehow gets away :)

Larry

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Re: GM Kaufman v. Novag Constellation 3.6 QR Odds Game

Post by Terry McCracken » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:04 pm

lkaufman wrote:
Steve B wrote: Connie mounts her high horse and plays the quiet Intermezzo...
38..Nf4
[d] 6k1/p1pr1p1p/1p4q1/5r2/3p1nRB/3B2Q1/P7/6K1 w - - 0 39

High-Ho Silver..Regards
Steve
I play 39Rxg6+. I better take the queen before it somehow gets away :)

Larry
Good point!

I predict 39..hg 40.Qe1!

Let the Endgame complications begin...Regards,
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Re: GM Kaufman v. Novag Constellation 3.6 QR Odds Game

Post by Steve B » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:38 am

lkaufman wrote:
I play 39Rxg6+. I better take the queen before it somehow gets away :)
Larry

Connie looks around for anther Q to recapture on g6 with
failing to find one she plays...

39..hxg6

[d] 6k1/p1pr1p2/1p4p1/5r2/3p1n1B/3B2Q1/P7/6K1 w - - 0 39

Recapturing 101 Regards
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Re: GM Kaufman v. Novag Constellation 3.6 QR Odds Game

Post by Terry McCracken » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:22 pm

Steve B wrote:
lkaufman wrote:
I play 39Rxg6+. I better take the queen before it somehow gets away :)
Larry

Connie looks around for anther Q to recapture on g6 with
failing to find one she plays...

39..hxg6

[d] 6k1/p1pr1p2/1p4p1/5r2/3p1n1B/3B2Q1/P7/6K1 w - - 0 39

Recapturing 101 Regards
Steve

40. Qe1 (forced)..Rdd5 41. Bxf5 (if Nxd3 41. Qe8+ and 42. Qxd7 or 40..Rfd5 41. Bf6! and White is better) It will be interesting to see which direction the Connie will go.

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Re: GM Kaufman v. Novag Constellation 3.6 QR Odds Game

Post by lkaufman » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:19 am

Steve B wrote:

Connie looks around for anther Q to recapture on g6 with
failing to find one she plays...

39..hxg6

[d] 6k1/p1pr1p2/1p4p1/5r2/3p1n1B/3B2Q1/P7/6K1 w - - 0 39

Recapturing 101 Regards
Steve
I play 40Qe1, which appears to lead to the expected material balance of queen vs. rook and five pawns. I'm back from the US Open now; I tied for sixth place with a 7 out of 9 score. I missed the serious money and the US Championship qualification spot by half a point.

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Re: GM Kaufman v. Novag Constellation 3.6 QR Odds Game

Post by Steve B » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:43 am

lkaufman wrote:
I play 40Qe1, which appears to lead to the expected material balance of queen vs. rook and five pawns. I'm back from the US Open now; I tied for sixth place with a 7 out of 9 score. I missed the serious money and the US Championship qualification spot by half a point.
Connie always overly concerned with materialistic wealth ..tries to salvage the exchange with..

40..Rfd5

[d]6k1/p1pr1p2/1p4p1/3r4/3p1n1B/3B4/P7/4Q1K1 w - - 0 40

Material Girl Regards
Steve

P.S.
This concludes Part One of this Epic encounter(Moves 1-40)
a new thread has been started here for moves 41-End Of Game
During the intermission Connie will be recharging her batteries

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 8451cacb58

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Re: GM Kaufman v. Novag Constellation 3.6 QR Odds Game

Post by Terry McCracken » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:49 pm

Steve B wrote:
lkaufman wrote:
I play 40Qe1, which appears to lead to the expected material balance of queen vs. rook and five pawns. I'm back from the US Open now; I tied for sixth place with a 7 out of 9 score. I missed the serious money and the US Championship qualification spot by half a point.
Connie always overly concerned with materialistic wealth ..tries to salvage the exchange with..

40..Rfd5

[d]6k1/p1pr1p2/1p4p1/3r4/3p1n1B/3B4/P7/4Q1K1 w - - 0 40

Material Girl Regards
Steve

P.S.
This concludes Part One of this Epic encounter(Moves 1-40)
a new thread has been started here for moves 41-End Of Game
During the intermission Connie will be recharging her batteries

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 8451cacb58
The Connie has picked the greedy road which leads to her having a marked disadvantage for the first time.

41. Bf6! and the game is better for White and Black still must conceed material or get mated.

Moving to the New Forking Thread Regards,
Terry McCracken

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Re: GM Kaufman v. Novag Constellation 3.6 QR Odds Game

Post by Guenther » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:38 pm

Terry McCracken wrote:
Steve B wrote:
lkaufman wrote:
I play 40Qe1, which appears to lead to the expected material balance of queen vs. rook and five pawns. I'm back from the US Open now; I tied for sixth place with a 7 out of 9 score. I missed the serious money and the US Championship qualification spot by half a point.
Connie always overly concerned with materialistic wealth ..tries to salvage the exchange with..

40..Rfd5

[d]6k1/p1pr1p2/1p4p1/3r4/3p1n1B/3B4/P7/4Q1K1 w - - 0 40

Material Girl Regards
Steve

P.S.
This concludes Part One of this Epic encounter(Moves 1-40)
a new thread has been started here for moves 41-End Of Game
During the intermission Connie will be recharging her batteries

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 8451cacb58
The Connie has picked the greedy road which leads to her having a marked disadvantage for the first time.

41. Bf6! and the game is better for White and Black still must conceed material or get mated.

Moving to the New Forking Thread Regards,
It is possible that the Connie could reach a fortress in the far distance.
Something like that:

[D]8/Q4pk1/6p1/5r2/6K1/8/8/8 w - - 0 20

Probably it will chose inferior lines though, which at first glance
look better by material. Surely it has no concept of such fortresses.

Günther

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Re: GM Kaufman v. Novag Constellation 3.6 QR Odds Game

Post by Terry McCracken » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:26 pm

Guenther wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Steve B wrote:
lkaufman wrote:
I play 40Qe1, which appears to lead to the expected material balance of queen vs. rook and five pawns. I'm back from the US Open now; I tied for sixth place with a 7 out of 9 score. I missed the serious money and the US Championship qualification spot by half a point.
Connie always overly concerned with materialistic wealth ..tries to salvage the exchange with..

40..Rfd5

[d]6k1/p1pr1p2/1p4p1/3r4/3p1n1B/3B4/P7/4Q1K1 w - - 0 40

Material Girl Regards
Steve

P.S.
This concludes Part One of this Epic encounter(Moves 1-40)
a new thread has been started here for moves 41-End Of Game
During the intermission Connie will be recharging her batteries

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 8451cacb58
The Connie has picked the greedy road which leads to her having a marked disadvantage for the first time.

41. Bf6! and the game is better for White and Black still must conceed material or get mated.

Moving to the New Forking Thread Regards,
It is possible that the Connie could reach a fortress in the far distance.
Something like that:

[D]8/Q4pk1/6p1/5r2/6K1/8/8/8 w - - 0 20

Probably it will chose inferior lines though, which at first glance
look better by material. Surely it has no concept of such fortresses.

Günther
I've looked at some lines and even a modern computer and program at this point would be very hard pressed to draw, 40..Rfd5?? was a serious mistake. The Connie is being far too materialistic by trying to save the Rook or putting off it's capture. I don't know if it sees the capture of the Rook as inevitable? Also, it's very unlikely it can play this Endgame accurately anyway. Computers back in the mid eighties were terrible Engame players mostly due to the lack of powerful hardware we enjoy today and of course there's been a lot of software improvement as well but at 5-8 shallow plies even modern software wouldn't fair well.

I think Larry is strong enough to win from this point without too much difficultly as long as he's careful.

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Terry McCracken

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