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Hi all,

our actual blitz rating list is online and can be found under the attached link.

40 / 4:
New games: 7100
All games now: 950.943

New Engines
22 Critter 1.4 x64 1CPU : 3189 - 1300 games (+21 to version 1.2: nr. 3 in our single list)
35 Komodo 4.0 x64 1CPU: 3163 - 1400 games (+9 to previous version; nr. 5 in our single list)
166 Chiron 1.1a w32 1CPU: 2966 - 1000 games (+4 to v. 1.0)
581 Cheng3 v1.06 x64: 2675 - 1000 games (+19 to v. 1.05)
720 Alfil 11 1CPU: 2610 - 1000 games (behind 8.11 opti)

One Update
105 Chiron 1.1a x64 1CPU: 3025 - 1100 games (-14 and +7 to version 1.0 now)

A big „Thank you“ to our Blitz-List-testers as usual!!

Links

Blitz: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/blitz.htm
Tester: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/testers/testers.htm

We wish you all the best in 2012!
Werner Schuele
CEGT-Team

Hello Werner,

If Critter 1.4 is only nr. 3, I was curious to find out who was nr. 2, turns out it is Strelka 5.0.
Are the CEGT aware that Strelka 5.0 is 99% Houdini 1.5? (assuming that the code that Jury Osipov sent me really produces the binary that is distributed)
I don't mind finding several copies of Houdini in rating lists, but it's probably unfair towards other engines.

Robert

Houdini wrote: Strelka 5.0 is 99% Houdini 1.5

Would you be kind enough to prove your claim?

Now THIS will be interesting.

LucenaTheLucid wrote:Now THIS will be interesting.

Maybe Houdini is 99% Strelke.

Osipov Jury wrote:

Houdini wrote: Strelka 5.0 is 99% Houdini 1.5

Would you be kind enough to prove your claim?

I'm not going to invest any time in this.
Consider my message a courtesy towards other engine authors at the top of the ranking lists.

Robert

Strelka appears to have very large eval terms for king safety (a bit like Scorpio), while Houdini doesn't, in my experience.

--Jon

Houdini wrote:

Osipov Jury wrote:

Houdini wrote: Strelka 5.0 is 99% Houdini 1.5

Would you be kind enough to prove your claim?

I'm not going to invest any time in this.
Consider my message a courtesy towards other engine authors at the top of the ranking lists.

Robert

The first courtesy of most rating lists was to test IvanHoe more than a year ago, when it was a close second to Houdini 1.03, and ahead of anything else these rating groups tested. And, if I am not wrong, it was Houdini 1.03 the close first of IvanHoe

The second thing to consider, is that Critter 1.4 appears to be closer to Strelka 5 than to Critter 1.2 or anything else on similarity. Strelka 5 appeared before Critter 1.4.

Kai

Houdini wrote:

Osipov Jury wrote:

Houdini wrote: Strelka 5.0 is 99% Houdini 1.5

Would you be kind enough to prove your claim?

I'm not going to invest any time in this.
Consider my message a courtesy towards other engine authors at the top of the ranking lists.

Robert

Robert! Happy New Year!

Maybe you release the source code of Houdini 1.5 and Strelka 5? Then everyone can compare them.

P.S.
I would like to see the source of only one function of Houdini. This endgame function KRPKB. It contains a mistake, but I do not know how to fix it.

Hello Robert,
...well, we had a discussion about Strelka in the group.
There will be no more tests with it now.

I wish you all the best for 2012!
Werner