SCCT Rating List - Calculation by EloStat 1.3

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SCCT Rating List - Calculation by EloStat 1.3

Post by Sedat Canbaz »

Hello Friends,

Here is the SCCT Rating List's calculation by EloStat 1.3 (Critter 1.6 x64 6c is fixed to 3300 Elo)
It's interesting to note that some of the current standings are completely different than BayesElo

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    Program                         Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

01 Houdini 2.0t3* Pro x64 6c      : 3365   18  18  1000    74.6 %   3178   37.2 %
02 Houdini 2.0t3 Pro x64 6c       : 3360   13  13  1700    70.1 %   3212   39.1 %
03 Houdini 2.0s2 Pro x64 6c       : 3355   18  18  1000    74.2 %   3172   34.4 %
04 Houdini 2.0z Pro x64 6c        : 3352   14  14  1574    71.1 %   3195   36.1 %
05 Houdini 2.0Bar2 x64 6c         : 3352   16  16  1030    72.8 %   3181   43.6 %
06 Houdini 2.0Higgs Pro x64 6c    : 3343   17  16  1030    70.7 %   3190   41.4 %
07 Houdini 1.5a x64 6c            : 3340   16  16  1100    67.5 %   3213   41.0 %
08 Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 6c        : 3339   14  14  1473    70.8 %   3185   39.3 %
09 Houdini2Bar1 Pro x64 6c        : 3330   15  15  1100    68.6 %   3194   46.2 %
10 Critter 1.6 x64 6c             : 3300   11  11  1900    62.6 %   3210   53.2 %
11 Critter 1.4 x64 6c             : 3288   15  14  1173    66.7 %   3167   47.1 %
12 Rybka 4.1 79DT v1 x64 6c       : 3284   16  16  1100    66.0 %   3169   38.3 %
13 Stockfish 120430P x64 6c       : 3281   11  11  1850    60.1 %   3209   50.1 %
14 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA x64 6c      : 3274   14  14  1200    62.5 %   3185   46.8 %
15 Rybka 4.1 SSE42 x64 6c         : 3274   12  12  1781    59.5 %   3207   48.3 %
16 Ivanhoe B46fE.02 x64 6c        : 3272   11  11  1900    58.7 %   3211   52.6 %
17 Ivanhoe B46fC x64 6c           : 3270   14  14  1230    63.2 %   3176   48.0 %
18 Rybka 4.1 NO-SSE x64 6c        : 3270   14  14  1261    60.8 %   3194   48.9 %
19 Stockfish VE09 x64 6c          : 3266   16  15  1000    63.4 %   3171   48.0 %
20 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 6c         : 3257   11  11  1900    56.6 %   3211   51.8 %
21 Vitruvius 1.11C x64 6c         : 3257   11  11  1900    56.5 %   3211   50.8 %
22 Gull II beta2 x64 6c           : 3209   13  13  1400    50.5 %   3206   50.9 %
23 Strelka 5.5 x64 1c             : 3189   12  12  1650    44.8 %   3225   48.0 %
24 Bouquet 1.4 x64 6c             : 3177   14  14  1250    46.4 %   3202   47.0 %
25 Naum 4.2 x64 6c                : 3169   12  12  1900    43.6 %   3214   44.0 %
26 Komodo 4.0 x64 1c              : 3150   12  12  1900    40.8 %   3214   41.8 %
27 Equinox 1.35 x64 6c            : 3119   13  14  1550    40.3 %   3187   40.0 %
28 Deep Fritz 13 w32 6c           : 3118   12  12  1900    36.4 %   3215   43.5 %
29 Spike 1.4 Leiden w32 6c        : 3100   12  13  1900    33.9 %   3215   38.3 %
30 Chiron 1.1a x64 6c             : 3098   12  12  1900    33.7 %   3216   38.7 %
31 Deep Junior 13.3 x64 6c        : 3082   14  14  1700    30.7 %   3223   35.6 %
32 Deep Fritz 12 w32 6c           : 3081   15  15  1173    36.6 %   3176   41.9 %
33 Protector 1.4.0 x64 6c         : 3075   13  13  1900    30.8 %   3216   36.5 %
34 Deep Junior 13 x64 6c          : 3074   15  15  1300    35.0 %   3182   36.4 %
35 Spark 1.0 x64 6c               : 3073   13  13  1850    30.9 %   3213   39.0 %
36 Deep Shredder 12 x64 6c        : 3070   13  13  1900    30.1 %   3216   36.5 %
37 Hiarcs 13.2 w32 6c             : 3057   13  13  1900    28.6 %   3217   32.3 %
38 Zappa Mexico II x64 6c         : 3042   14  15  1573    28.8 %   3199   34.0 %
39 Fruit 090705 x64 6c            : 2970   18  18  1174    22.9 %   3181   28.9 %
For more information about General and Individual statistics:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/files/ ... lostat.txt

Kind Regards,
Sedat
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Re: SCCT Rating List - Calculation by EloStat 1.3

Post by Modern Times »

You can also get very different results from bayeselo depending on what parameters you use. It is hard to know what the right answer is, if indeed there is one.
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Re: SCCT Rating List - Calculation by EloStat 1.3

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Modern Times wrote:You can also get very different results from bayeselo depending on what parameters you use. It is hard to know what the right answer is, if indeed there is one.
Hello Ray,

Yes,its a another complicated issue and that mystery continues since several years...
I mean there is no any proof 100 % about which tool calculates more accurate Elo results

If you mean about SCCT standings by BayesElo calculation,
Here are the details,which i used for the latest SCCT:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-rating/

readpgn scct.pgn

elo

mm 0 1

exactdist

offset 3300 Critter 1.6 x64 6c

ratings >r.txt



Btw,here is another calculation by Frirz 12 GUI
*It seems, the below Fritz calculation results are almost same as Elostat 1.3


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01   Houdini 2.0t3* Pro x64 6c   3365   0
02   Houdini 2.0t3 Pro x64 6c    3359   0
03   Houdini 2.0s2 Pro x64 6c    3356   0
04   Houdini 2.0z Pro x64 6c     3352   0
05   Houdini 2.0Bar2 x64 6c      3352   0
06   Houdini 2.0Higgs Pro x64 6c 3342   0
07   Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 6c     3340   0
08   Houdini 1.5a x64 6c         3338   0
09   Houdini2Bar1 Pro x64 6c     3329   0
10   Critter 1.6 x64 6c          3300   0
11   Critter 1.4 x64 6c          3290   0
12   Rybka 4.1 79DT v1 x64 6c    3286   0
13   Stockfish 120430P x64 6c    3281   0
14   Rybka 4.1 SSE42 x64 6c      3274   0
15   Stockfish 2.2.2 JA x64 6c   3275   0
16   Ivanhoe B46fE.02 x64 6c     3273   0
17   Ivanhoe B46fC x64 6c        3273   0
18   Rybka 4.1 NO-SSE x64 6c     3270   0
19   Stockfish VE09 x64 6c       3268   0
20   Vitruvius 1.11C x64 6c      3257   0
21   Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 6c      3258   0
22   Gull II beta2 x64 6c        3209   0
23   Strelka 5.5 x64 1c          3189   0
24   Bouquet 1.4 x64 6c          3178   0
25   Naum 4.2 x64 6c             3170   0
26   Komodo 4.0 x64 1c           3151   0
27   Equinox 1.35 x64 6c         3122   0
28   Deep Fritz 13 w32 6c        3120   0
29   Spike 1.4 Leiden w32 6c     3101   0
30   Chiron 1.1a x64 6c          3099   0
31   Deep Fritz 12 w32 6c        3085   0
32   Deep Junior 13.3 x64 6c     3083   0
33   Deep Junior 13 x64 6c       3078   0
34   Protector 1.4.0 x64 6c      3077   0
35   Spark 1.0 x64 6c            3075   0
36   Deep Shredder 12 x64 6c     3072   0
37   Hiarcs 13.2 w32 6c          3059   0
38   Zappa Mexico II x64 6c      3045   0
39   Fruit 090705 x64 6c         2974   0 

Best Regards,
Sedat
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Re: SCCT Rating List - Calculation by EloStat 1.3

Post by carldaman »

Hi Sedat,
What time control was used to produce these ratings? Any plans to rate Komodo 5 (I don't see it on the list)?

Thanks,
Carl
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Re: SCCT Rating List - Calculation by EloStat 1.3

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carldaman wrote:Hi Sedat,
What time control was used to produce these ratings? Any plans to rate Komodo 5 (I don't see it on the list)?

Thanks,
Carl
Hello Carl,

SCCT's time control is 3 Minutes/Game + 2 Seconds/Move

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Time Control
•All games are played with same time control: 3 Minutes/Game + 2 Seconds/Move
*One of the most preferable blitz time controls, used in latest Chess Championships
•The overall time duration game length:equals to average 11 minutes per game
•Personally I’m not a big fan testing the engines with fast time controls
•Blitz games are less important and the results cannot be taken as very seriously
•But however, blitz is the most used and played time control in chess
•The main reason i use this blitz time control for the current rating is very simple:
-As a single tester,I have no enough free cpu time to create a reliable slow rating
•Plus blitz chess offers more possibilities to test many different engine versions

For more details:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/2838-2/

About Komodo 5 in SCCT,
Still i did not start testing Komodo 5,due to i have no much interest testing the engines with one core
But there is no doubt that i will test Komodo MP with a great pleasure



Best,
Sedat
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Re: SCCT Rating List - Calculation by EloStat 1.3

Post by carldaman »

Thanks, Sedat -- been looking forward to Komodo MP myself for some time :)

CL
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Re: SCCT Rating List - Calculation by EloStat 1.3

Post by Daniel Shawul »

Hello Sedat
I think bayeselo should give better rating estimates than EloStat. Nothing is perfect ofcourse, but the algorithm used in bayeselo is clearly better because Elostat assumes an engine played against a single opponent with average rating. If every engine plays against every one (like in round robin), both give close results, but most of the time that is not the case. BTW why do you use mm 0 1 instead of mm 1 1? Don't you want to include the white advantage in rating calculations ? Something else you might want to change is setting scaling to 1 like ccrl did. That parameter was added to make testers happy who want to see rating similar to FIDE rating, but it distorts the result of the model.

Daniel
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Re: SCCT Rating List - Calculation by EloStat 1.3

Post by Sedat Canbaz »

Daniel Shawul wrote:Hello Sedat
I think bayeselo should give better rating estimates than EloStat. Nothing is perfect ofcourse, but the algorithm used in bayeselo is clearly better because Elostat assumes an engine played against a single opponent with average rating. If every engine plays against every one (like in round robin), both give close results, but most of the time that is not the case. BTW why do you use mm 0 1 instead of mm 1 1? Don't you want to include the white advantage in rating calculations ? Something else you might want to change is setting scaling to 1 like ccrl did. That parameter was added to make testers happy who want to see rating similar to FIDE rating, but it distorts the result of the model.

Daniel

Hello Daniel,

Thanks for your valuable information

Actually the previous SCCT calculation was with mm 1 1,e.g sometimes i use mm 1 1 sometimes 0 1

Btw,here are the calculations for top 20 ranks,where i used mm 11 and mm 0 1

And as wee see both Elo standings are almost same,exception for two players


1) Calculation with mm 0 1

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Rank Name                          Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 2.0t3 Pro x64 6c     3363   12   12  1700   70%  3212   39% 
   2 Houdini 2.0t3* Pro x64 6c    3362   15   15  1000   75%  3177   37% 
   3 Houdini 2.0z Pro x64 6c      3358   12   12  1574   71%  3194   36% 
   4 Houdini 2.0s2 Pro x64 6c     3356   15   15  1000   74%  3171   34% 
   5 Houdini 2.0Bar2 x64 6c       3345   15   14  1030   73%  3180   44% 
   6 Houdini 1.5a x64 6c          3345   14   14  1100   68%  3212   41% 
   7 Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 6c      3342   13   12  1473   71%  3184   39% 
   8 Houdini 2.0Higgs Pro x64 6c  3341   15   15  1030   71%  3189   41% 
   9 Houdini2Bar1 Pro x64 6c      3330   14   14  1100   69%  3193   46% 
  10 Critter 1.6 x64 6c           3300   11   11  1900   63%  3209   53% 
  11 Critter 1.4 x64 6c           3288   13   13  1173   67%  3166   47% 
  12 Rybka 4.1 79DT v1 x64 6c     3287   14   14  1100   66%  3168   38% 
  13 Stockfish 120430P x64 6c     3282   11   11  1850   60%  3208   50% 
  14 Rybka 4.1 SSE42 x64 6c       3275   11   11  1781   60%  3206   48% 
  15 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA x64 6c    3274   13   13  1200   62%  3185   47% 
  16 Ivanhoe B46fE.02 x64 6c      3273   10   10  1900   59%  3210   53% 
  17 Ivanhoe B46fC x64 6c         3273   13   13  1230   63%  3176   48% 
  18 Rybka 4.1 NO-SSE x64 6c      3271   13   13  1261   61%  3193   49% 
  19 Stockfish VE09 x64 6c        3263   14   14  1000   63%  3170   48% 
  20 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 6c       3260   10   10  1900   57%  3210   52% 
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2) Calculation with mm 1 1

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Rank Name                          Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 2.0t3 Pro x64 6c     3363   12   12  1700   70%  3211   39% 
   2 Houdini 2.0t3* Pro x64 6c    3362   15   15  1000   75%  3177   37% 
   3 Houdini 2.0z Pro x64 6c      3358   12   12  1574   71%  3194   36% 
   4 Houdini 2.0s2 Pro x64 6c     3356   15   15  1000   74%  3170   34% 
   5 Houdini 2.0Bar2 x64 6c       3345   15   14  1030   73%  3180   44% 
   6 Houdini 1.5a x64 6c          3345   14   14  1100   68%  3212   41% 
   7 Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 6c      3342   12   12  1473   71%  3184   39% 
   8 Houdini 2.0Higgs Pro x64 6c  3341   15   15  1030   71%  3189   41% 
   9 Houdini2Bar1 Pro x64 6c      3329   14   14  1100   69%  3193   46% 
  10 Critter 1.6 x64 6c           3300   10   10  1900   63%  3209   53% 
  11 Critter 1.4 x64 6c           3288   13   13  1173   67%  3166   47% 
  12 Rybka 4.1 79DT v1 x64 6c     3287   14   14  1100   66%  3168   38% 
  13 Stockfish 120430P x64 6c     3282   11   11  1850   60%  3208   50% 
  14 Rybka 4.1 SSE42 x64 6c       3275   11   11  1781   60%  3205   48% 
  15 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA x64 6c    3274   13   13  1200   62%  3184   47% 
  16 Ivanhoe B46fE.02 x64 6c      3273   10   10  1900   59%  3210   53% 
  17 Ivanhoe B46fC x64 6c         3272   13   13  1230   63%  3175   48% 
  18 Rybka 4.1 NO-SSE x64 6c      3271   13   13  1261   61%  3193   49% 
  19 Stockfish VE09 x64 6c        3263   14   14  1000   63%  3170   48% 
  20 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 6c       3260   10   10  1900   57%  3210   52%
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Only two participants have one (1) Elo difference between both calculation methods:

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Rank Name                          Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws   type
   9 Houdini2Bar1 Pro x64 6c      3330   14   14  1100   69%  3193   46%   mm 0 1
   9 Houdini2Bar1 Pro x64 6c      3329   14   14  1100   69%  3193   46%   mm 1 1
 
  17 Ivanhoe B46fC x64 6c         3273   13   13  1230   63%  3176   48%   mm 0 1
  17 Ivanhoe B46fC x64 6c         3272   13   13  1230   63%  3175   48%   mm 1 1


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Re: SCCT Rating List - Calculation by EloStat 1.3

Post by michiguel »

Sedat Canbaz wrote:Hello Friends,

Here is the SCCT Rating List's calculation by EloStat 1.3 (Critter 1.6 x64 6c is fixed to 3300 Elo)
It's interesting to note that some of the current standings are completely different than BayesElo

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    Program                         Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws

01 Houdini 2.0t3* Pro x64 6c      : 3365   18  18  1000    74.6 %   3178   37.2 %
02 Houdini 2.0t3 Pro x64 6c       : 3360   13  13  1700    70.1 %   3212   39.1 %
03 Houdini 2.0s2 Pro x64 6c       : 3355   18  18  1000    74.2 %   3172   34.4 %
04 Houdini 2.0z Pro x64 6c        : 3352   14  14  1574    71.1 %   3195   36.1 %
05 Houdini 2.0Bar2 x64 6c         : 3352   16  16  1030    72.8 %   3181   43.6 %
06 Houdini 2.0Higgs Pro x64 6c    : 3343   17  16  1030    70.7 %   3190   41.4 %
07 Houdini 1.5a x64 6c            : 3340   16  16  1100    67.5 %   3213   41.0 %
08 Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 6c        : 3339   14  14  1473    70.8 %   3185   39.3 %
09 Houdini2Bar1 Pro x64 6c        : 3330   15  15  1100    68.6 %   3194   46.2 %
10 Critter 1.6 x64 6c             : 3300   11  11  1900    62.6 %   3210   53.2 %
11 Critter 1.4 x64 6c             : 3288   15  14  1173    66.7 %   3167   47.1 %
12 Rybka 4.1 79DT v1 x64 6c       : 3284   16  16  1100    66.0 %   3169   38.3 %
13 Stockfish 120430P x64 6c       : 3281   11  11  1850    60.1 %   3209   50.1 %
14 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA x64 6c      : 3274   14  14  1200    62.5 %   3185   46.8 %
15 Rybka 4.1 SSE42 x64 6c         : 3274   12  12  1781    59.5 %   3207   48.3 %
16 Ivanhoe B46fE.02 x64 6c        : 3272   11  11  1900    58.7 %   3211   52.6 %
17 Ivanhoe B46fC x64 6c           : 3270   14  14  1230    63.2 %   3176   48.0 %
18 Rybka 4.1 NO-SSE x64 6c        : 3270   14  14  1261    60.8 %   3194   48.9 %
19 Stockfish VE09 x64 6c          : 3266   16  15  1000    63.4 %   3171   48.0 %
20 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 6c         : 3257   11  11  1900    56.6 %   3211   51.8 %
21 Vitruvius 1.11C x64 6c         : 3257   11  11  1900    56.5 %   3211   50.8 %
22 Gull II beta2 x64 6c           : 3209   13  13  1400    50.5 %   3206   50.9 %
23 Strelka 5.5 x64 1c             : 3189   12  12  1650    44.8 %   3225   48.0 %
24 Bouquet 1.4 x64 6c             : 3177   14  14  1250    46.4 %   3202   47.0 %
25 Naum 4.2 x64 6c                : 3169   12  12  1900    43.6 %   3214   44.0 %
26 Komodo 4.0 x64 1c              : 3150   12  12  1900    40.8 %   3214   41.8 %
27 Equinox 1.35 x64 6c            : 3119   13  14  1550    40.3 %   3187   40.0 %
28 Deep Fritz 13 w32 6c           : 3118   12  12  1900    36.4 %   3215   43.5 %
29 Spike 1.4 Leiden w32 6c        : 3100   12  13  1900    33.9 %   3215   38.3 %
30 Chiron 1.1a x64 6c             : 3098   12  12  1900    33.7 %   3216   38.7 %
31 Deep Junior 13.3 x64 6c        : 3082   14  14  1700    30.7 %   3223   35.6 %
32 Deep Fritz 12 w32 6c           : 3081   15  15  1173    36.6 %   3176   41.9 %
33 Protector 1.4.0 x64 6c         : 3075   13  13  1900    30.8 %   3216   36.5 %
34 Deep Junior 13 x64 6c          : 3074   15  15  1300    35.0 %   3182   36.4 %
35 Spark 1.0 x64 6c               : 3073   13  13  1850    30.9 %   3213   39.0 %
36 Deep Shredder 12 x64 6c        : 3070   13  13  1900    30.1 %   3216   36.5 %
37 Hiarcs 13.2 w32 6c             : 3057   13  13  1900    28.6 %   3217   32.3 %
38 Zappa Mexico II x64 6c         : 3042   14  15  1573    28.8 %   3199   34.0 %
39 Fruit 090705 x64 6c            : 2970   18  18  1174    22.9 %   3181   28.9 %
For more information about General and Individual statistics:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/files/ ... lostat.txt

Kind Regards,
Sedat

From Ordo v0.5 (version soon to be released)

Miguel
PS: Error calculated after 10000 simulations, Critter fixed at 3300 as above.

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   # ENGINE                      : RATING  ERROR   POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Houdini 2.0t3* Pro x64 6c   : 3364.8   15.4    746.0    1000   74.6%
   2 Houdini 2.0t3 Pro x64 6c    : 3364.2   12.8   1191.0    1700   70.1%
   3 Houdini 2.0z Pro x64 6c     : 3359.4   13.5   1106.0    1550   71.4%
   4 Houdini 2.0s2 Pro x64 6c    : 3355.2   15.6    742.0    1000   74.2%
   5 Houdini 2.0Bar2 x64 6c      : 3348.8   15.2    729.0    1000   72.9%
   6 Houdini 2.0c Pro x64 6c     : 3344.4   13.3   1031.0    1450   71.1%
   7 Houdini 1.5a x64 6c         : 3342.1   14.3    742.5    1100   67.5%
   8 Houdini 2.0Higgs Pro x64 6c : 3341.5   15.2    708.0    1000   70.8%
   9 Houdini2Bar1 Pro x64 6c     : 3332.1   14.5    755.0    1100   68.6%
  10 Critter 1.6 x64 6c          : 3300.0   ----   1190.0    1900   62.6%
  11 Critter 1.4 x64 6c          : 3285.5   14.1    770.0    1150   67.0%
  12 Stockfish 120430P x64 6c    : 3278.8   12.2   1112.5    1850   60.1%
  13 Rybka 4.1 79DT v1 x64 6c    : 3276.7   14.2    725.5    1100   66.0%
  14 Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 6c       : 3270.8   12.3   1044.0    1750   59.7%
  15 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA x64 6c   : 3269.2   13.8    749.5    1200   62.5%
  16 Ivanhoe B46fE.02 x64 6c     : 3269.2   12.1   1115.5    1900   58.7%
  17 Ivanhoe B46fC x64 6c        : 3266.9   13.9    762.5    1200   63.5%
  18 Rybka 4.1 NO-SSE x64 6c     : 3266.8   14.7    629.5    1000   63.0%
  19 Stockfish VE09 x64 6c       : 3256.7   14.6    634.0    1000   63.4%
  20 Fire 2.2 xTreme x64 6c      : 3252.3   12.0   1074.5    1900   56.6%
  21 Vitruvius 1.11C x64 6c      : 3251.7   11.9   1073.0    1900   56.5%
  22 Gull II beta2 x64 6c        : 3196.3   13.0    706.5    1400   50.5%
  23 Strelka 5.5 x64 1c          : 3174.9   12.5    740.0    1650   44.8%
  24 Bouquet 1.4 x64 6c          : 3161.1   13.5    580.0    1250   46.4%
  25 Naum 4.2 x64 6c             : 3153.1   12.0    829.0    1900   43.6%
  26 Komodo 4.0 x64 1c           : 3131.2   12.2    776.0    1900   40.8%
  27 Equinox 1.35 x64 6c         : 3097.6   12.7    625.0    1550   40.3%
  28 Deep Fritz 13 w32 6c        : 3095.7   12.3    692.0    1900   36.4%
  29 Spike 1.4 Leiden w32 6c     : 3075.1   12.5    645.0    1900   33.9%
  30 Chiron 1.1a x64 6c          : 3072.9   12.4    640.0    1900   33.7%
  31 Deep Junior 13.3 x64 6c     : 3056.1   12.9    522.0    1700   30.7%
  32 Deep Fritz 12 w32 6c        : 3055.4   14.0    426.0    1150   37.0%
  33 Protector 1.4.0 x64 6c      : 3047.8   12.6    584.5    1900   30.8%
  34 Deep Junior 13 x64 6c       : 3046.1   13.8    454.5    1300   35.0%
  35 Spark 1.0 x64 6c            : 3045.6   12.5    572.0    1850   30.9%
  36 Deep Shredder 12 x64 6c     : 3042.0   12.6    572.0    1900   30.1%
  37 Hiarcs 13.2 w32 6c          : 3028.2   12.7    543.0    1900   28.6%
  38 Zappa Mexico II x64 6c      : 3009.1   13.4    445.5    1550   28.7%
  39 Fruit 090705 x64 6c         : 2934.8   15.3    266.0    1150   23.1%
Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SCCT Rating List - Calculation by EloStat 1.3

Post by Sedat Canbaz »

Thank you Miguel !

I never used your Ordo calculation program,bu later i hope to try it...

Btw,i noticed in your Ordo list that Rybka 4.1 SSE4.2 is rated 4 Elo stronger than Rybka 4.1 NO-SSE
*Note that i mean about Rybka 4.1 NO-SSE 1000 games per player

Elostat and Fritz GUI calculates as 4 Elo difference too

For example,BayesElo calculates exactly as 1 Elo difference

And if we check all calculation utilities,we see that some of the players have slightly different Elo results...

So...i wonder a lot which tool calculates more accurate ?!

Greetings,
Sedat