SSDF Rating List 2013-03-23

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SSDF Rating List 2013-03-23

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     THE SSDF RATING LIST 2013-03-23   %123376 games played by  312 computers							
                                           Rating   +     -  Games   Won  Oppo
                                           ------  ---   --- -----   ---  ----
   1 Deep Rybka 4 x64  2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz     3212   27   -25   930   75%  3022
   2 Deep Hiarcs 14 2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz        3205   29   -27   716   71%  3049
   3 Deep Rybka 3 x64  2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz     3202   24   -22  1251   77%  2991
   4 Naum 4.2 MP x64 2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz       3152   24   -23   919   64%  3050
   5 Naum 4 x64  2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz           3137   25   -23  1030   74%  2960
   6 Deep Junior 13.3 2GB x64 Q6600 2,4 GHz  3123   25   -25   760   57%  3074
   7 Deep Shredder 12 x64 2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz  3111   20   -19  1381   65%  3003
   8 Spike 1.4 MP 2GB Q6600  2,4 GHz         3106   20   -19  1320   64%  3009
   9 Deep Hiarcs 13.2  2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz     3106   28   -27   632   60%  3034
  10 Hiarcs 13.1  2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz          3104   25   -24   788   60%  3037
  11 Deep Fritz 13 2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz         3095   28   -27   624   58%  3037
  12 Deep Fritz 12 2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz         3094   21   -21  1040   56%  3050
  13 Deep Rybka 3  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz     3078   39   -37   332   58%  3022
  14 Deep Junior 12 x64 2GB  Q6600 2,4 GHz   3074   24   -23   938   63%  2979
  15 Deep Fritz 11  2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz        3066   19   -18  1424   63%  2977
  16 Zappa Mexico II x64  2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz  3057   25   -25   776   59%  2992
  17 Naum 3.1 x64  2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz         3043   27   -26   692   58%  2989
  18 Deep Hiarcs 12  2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz       3021   18   -18  1391   54%  2990
  19 Deep Shredder 11 x64 2GB Q6600  2,4 GHz 3017   22   -22   968   52%  3004
  20 Glaurung 2.2 x64 MP 2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz   2994   21   -21  1085   57%  2942
  21 Hiarcs 11.2 MP  2GB  Q6600  2,4 GHz     2989   22   -22   963   49%  2993
  22 Naum 4  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz           2988   28   -28   614   50%  2985
  23 Shredder 12 256MB A1200 MHz             2977   32   -32   446   50%  2977
  24 Deep Junior 10.1  2GB  Q6600  2,4 GHz   2970   23   -23   886   46%  2998
  25 Fritz 12  256MB  A1200 MHz              2951   29   -28   620   64%  2853
  26 Rybka 2.3.1 Arena 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2918   22   -21  1004   52%  2906
  27 Jonny 4.0 MP 2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz          2904   29   -31   600   30%  3049
  28 Deep Fritz 8 2GB  Q6600  2,4 GHz        2904   23   -24   929   35%  3011
  29 Shredder 8 MP 2GB  Q6600  2,4 GHz       2887   24   -25   908   32%  3014
  30 Deep Junior 8  2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz        2862   24   -25   952   30%  3012
  31 CM King 3.5 x64 MP 2GB  Q6600 2,4 GHz   2858   26   -28   752   29%  3011
  32 Zap!Chess Zanzibar 256MB Athlon 1200 MH 2834   21   -21  1100   50%  2837
  33 Fruit 2.2.1  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz      2829   18   -18  1465   59%  2767
  34 Pocket Fritz 4 Naum 4.2 Ipaq 214        2803   70   -64   115   62%  2717
  35 Chess Tiger 2007  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2795   21   -22  1154   35%  2905
  36 Pocket Fritz 4 Hiarcs 13 Ipaq 214       2753   64   -58   140   65%  2648
  37 Pocket Fritz 3 Hiarcs Ipaq 214 624 MHz  2727   53   -50   182   57%  2679
  38 Revelation Shredder 12  XScale 500 MHz  2704   60   -58   140   56%  2664
  39 Pocket Shredder Ipaq 114 624 MHz        2700   55   -51   180   63%  2611
  40 CEBoard Fruit 2.3.1 XScale 400  400 MHz 2662   50   -49   195   56%  2623
  41 Hiarcs Palm Chess 12.1 T5               2650   63   -64   120   48%  2662
  42 Revelation Rybka 2.2  XScale 500 MHz    2629   47   -44   240   62%  2547
  43 Pocket Fritz 2 XScale 400 MHz           2511   42   -42   265   52%  2495
  44 Pocket Fritz 3 Glaurung 2.1 Ipaq 614C   2502   59   -67   140   33%  2629
  45 Resurrection Rybka 2.2 StrongARM 203 MH 2485   43   -42   260   51%  2478
  46 Resurrection Fruit '05 StrongARM 203 MH 2393   67   -62   120   60%  2320
  47 Hiarcs 9.5a/9.6 Palm TungstenE OMAP 126 2393   34   -35   400   45%  2427
  48 CEBoard Crafty 2004 HP RX4240  400 MHz  2373   48   -50   200   43%  2424
  49 R30 v. 2.5                              2269   42   -39   323   67%  2143
  50 Palm Tiger 2009 Tung C  400 MHz         2238   54   -56   160   44%  2280



 2 Deep Hiarcs 14 2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz, 3205											
DRybka4 Q6600  24,5-15,5  DRybka3 Q6600   19,5-22,5  Naum4.2 Q6600   25,5-18,5
DJun133 Q6600	  21-21    DShre12 Q6600   25,5-18,5  Spike14 Q6600     30-12
Hia13.2 Q6600	24,5-15,5  DFrit13 Q6600     28-12    DFrit12 Q6600   61,5-24,5
DJuni12 Q6600	25,5-14,5  DFrit11 Q6600     31-9     Glaurung Q660   35,5-4,5
Jonny 4 Q6600	33,5-6,5   Hiar111 A1200   41,5-6,5   DJunio8 Q6600   36,5-3,5
CT 2007 A1200	  45-3								

 6 Deep Junior 13.3 2GB x64 Q6600 2,4 GHz, 3123											
DRybka4 Q6600   16,5-23,5  DHiar14 Q6600     21-21    DRybka3 Q6600   17,5-22,5
Naum4.2 Q6600   36,5-55,5  DShre12 Q6600   23,5-18,5  Spike14 Q6600   20,5-19,5
Hia13.2 Q6600   20,5-19,5  Hiarc13 Q6600     22-20    DFrit13 Q6600   22,5-17,5
DFrit12 Q6600   33,5-26,5  DJuni12 Q6600     21-19    DFrit11 Q6600     19-21
DShre11 Q6600   28,5-11,5  Jonny 4 Q6600   34,5-5,5   King3.5 Q6600     32-8
CT 2007 A1200   38,5-3,5

 11 Deep Fritz 13 2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz, 3095											
DRybka4 Q6600   13,5-26,5  DHiar14 Q6600     12-28     Naum4.2 Q6600  18,5-25,5
DJun133 Q6600   17,5-22,5  DShre12 Q6600   20,5-19,5   Spike14 Q6600    17-23
Hia13.2 Q6600     20-20    Hiarc13 Q6600   20,5-19,5   DFrit12 Q6600  17,5-22,5
DJuni12 Q6600   22,5-17,5  Jonny 4 Q6600     36-4      DFritz8 Q6600  28,5-16,5
DJunio8 Q6600     74-11    CT 2007 A1200   45,5-4,5


Here are the latest version of the SSDF Rating List. Since last time 
we have tested three new programs on our Q6600 2,4 GHz hardware. 

Mark Uniackes WCSC-winner of 2011 - Deep Hiarcs 14, is our new number 
two on the list with 3205, an improvement of 99 points from Deep 
Hiarcs 13.2!

Amir Ban and Shay Bushinsky's program, the WCCC-winner of 2011 - Deep 
Junior 13.3, takes the sixth place on our latest list. Their 
improvement is 49 points from the Deep Junior 12-version. We have 
tested the 64-bit version of the program.

The last of our tested program this time is Deep Fritz 13. It takes 
place eleven, 1 point in front of Deep Fritz 12.

For the next list we hope to have enough games with Revelation Hiarcs,
Chess Genius 3 iPhone 4 and to have some new entrants on both our 
Q6600 and A1200-level.
Lars Sandin, SSDF
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Re: SSDF Rating List 2013-03-23

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Where is Houdini , Stockfish , critter ?
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And Fairy-Max? :shock:
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Re: SSDF Rating List 2013-03-23

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sainzlei wrote:Where is Houdini , Stockfish , critter ?
The SSDF is a very traditional list, with most games hand-played at actual tournament time controls. Their rating software also has a hard limit of 311 entries, so to include a new entity, they must bump a historical one off the list. They are thus very conservative about adding new engines to the list, with a preference for commercial engines and dedicated computers with high pedigree. (It is rather quaint that they continue to include dead projects Naum and Glaurung, though!)
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(It is rather quaint that they continue to include dead projects Naum and Glaurung, though!)
Not to mention Shredder 8. About time to bump that one I think.

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sainzlei wrote:Where is Houdini , Stockfish , critter ?
I think they only include original programs in their testing.
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gerold wrote:
sainzlei wrote:Where is Houdini , Stockfish , critter ?
I think they only include original programs in their testing.
That would confirm that Rybka is original then, especially as SSDF is the only rating list recognised by the Hiarcs forum. :wink:
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Re: SSDF Rating List 2013-03-23

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Graham Banks wrote:
gerold wrote:
sainzlei wrote:Where is Houdini , Stockfish , critter ?
I think they only include original programs in their testing.
That would confirm that Rybka is original then, especially as SSDF is the only rating list recognised by the Hiarcs forum. :wink:
Of course they believe it is original. That issue is still up in the air:-)
for many people. No court case so it is still original program.
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Re: SSDF Rating List 2013-03-23

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Graham Banks wrote:
gerold wrote:
sainzlei wrote:Where is Houdini , Stockfish , critter ?
I think they only include original programs in their testing.
That would confirm that Rybka is original then, especially as SSDF is the only rating list recognised by the Hiarcs forum. :wink:
You should know better than to use/abuse rating lists for declaring engines original or not :).
Like other people in this thread I don't understand the motivation of the SSDF people to produce a rating list that has no relevance whatsoever for today's computer chess scene.

Robert
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Houdini wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
gerold wrote:
sainzlei wrote:Where is Houdini , Stockfish , critter ?
I think they only include original programs in their testing.
That would confirm that Rybka is original then, especially as SSDF is the only rating list recognised by the Hiarcs forum. :wink:
You should know better than to use/abuse rating lists for declaring engines original or not :).
Like other people in this thread I don't understand the motivation of the SSDF people to produce a rating list that has no relevance whatsoever for today's computer chess scene.

Robert
Hi Robert,

my comment was of course just being naughty. :lol:

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