tcec game 54 Komodo-SF not a draw?

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tcec game 54 Komodo-SF not a draw?

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Shouldn't this game have been continued or adjudicated a draw?
In the top concluding evaluation line in chessbomb, the position is a draw.
i.e. komodo could not have won from the position where the game was terminated and adjudicated as a win.
Maybe the pv's in tcec (which i did not find) said differently.
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S.Taylor wrote:Shouldn't this game have been continued or adjudicated a draw?
In the top concluding evaluation line in chessbomb, the position is a draw.
i.e. komodo could not have won from the position where the game was terminated and adjudicated as a win.
Maybe the pv's in tcec (which i did not find) said differently.
I just look into the archive http://tcec.chessdom.com/archive.php , the 54th game is completely winning (komodo wins the rook after 6 moves).
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Thanks for the link!
Well, the top line of chessbomb did not see it like that, at time of adj. win.

And, i'd also be surprised if white was MEANT to win, ever since around move 20.

All he had was a passed pawn on 6th rank, and rooks on, but opposite coloured bishops.

(uris post discusses the same game, i believe)
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Re: tcec game 54 Komodo-SF not a draw?

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Both PV's showed an easy win due to loss of rook.
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M ANSARI wrote:Both PV's showed an easy win due to loss of rook.
obviously, if a rook is lost. But the top variation in chessbomb did not see a rook being lost. Only to end up with a bishop up and 2 pawns each, with no queening chances.
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S.Taylor wrote:Shouldn't this game have been continued or adjudicated a draw?
In the top concluding evaluation line in chessbomb, the position is a draw.
i.e. komodo could not have won from the position where the game was terminated and adjudicated as a win.
Maybe the pv's in tcec (which i did not find) said differently.
A lot of flaws in the TCEC thus far....
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Chessbomb only lets SF analyse each position for 30 seconds in multi-pv mode, and probably not on a machine as powerful as the TCEC one. So the chessbomb analysis is likely to miss lots of stuff.
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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:Shouldn't this game have been continued or adjudicated a draw?
In the top concluding evaluation line in chessbomb, the position is a draw.
i.e. komodo could not have won from the position where the game was terminated and adjudicated as a win.
Maybe the pv's in tcec (which i did not find) said differently.
A lot of flaws in the TCEC thus far....
Dr.D
Have you looked into it? Might it be that it was not a forced win at time of adj? (there was no rook up then).
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S.Taylor wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:Shouldn't this game have been continued or adjudicated a draw?
In the top concluding evaluation line in chessbomb, the position is a draw.
i.e. komodo could not have won from the position where the game was terminated and adjudicated as a win.
Maybe the pv's in tcec (which i did not find) said differently.
A lot of flaws in the TCEC thus far....
Dr.D
Have you looked into it? Might it be that it was not a forced win at time of adj? (there was no rook up then).
I'll take a closer look tomorow when I get back from work....
A 16 hours shift regards,
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S.Taylor wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:Shouldn't this game have been continued or adjudicated a draw?
In the top concluding evaluation line in chessbomb, the position is a draw.
i.e. komodo could not have won from the position where the game was terminated and adjudicated as a win.
Maybe the pv's in tcec (which i did not find) said differently.
A lot of flaws in the TCEC thus far....
Dr.D
Have you looked into it? Might it be that it was not a forced win at time of adj? (there was no rook up then).
Torbjorn told you all you need to know, but you could have seeen it yourself as the analysis time is also written there. Why not just watch at the real site?

@Dr.Deeb you did not notice he talked about 'Chessbomb', thus your answer is flawed...