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What was the last event YOU went to? Do you know what an attended tournament is like?lucasart wrote:Rather the other way around. SF will not participate in this tournament, because it's a big farce. Everything about this ICGA tournament is wrong:
* one game elimination = statistically meaningless results
* we would have to fly to Leiden with our hardware + hotel for a week, at our own expense. all that for what? to prove that SF can beat the shit out of all these patzer like Pandix, Crafty, Nightmare, Hiarcs, Junior etc.
* different hardware and different book, makes comparisons meaningless.
SF team should never lower themselves to participate in any ICGA event, IMO. ICGA is a dying dinosaur. Live and let die.
The only world championship is TCEC, and that's what we look forward to.
I do not see why his comments are rubbish. He didn't exactly say things necessarily in a friendly manner - but you guys should consider changing the title of this "2015 World Computer Chess Championship" because it clearly is not. It is a tournament where authors get together and discuss things; is that not a major focal point of this tournament? Why on earth do you guys seriously have a title like this when your tournament will not actually show who the REAL engine champion is? I mean look at the engine participants. They are far from top-tier status to say the least. I am willing to bet that Rybka 4.1 would win that tournament unless Komodo participates.bob wrote:What was the last event YOU went to? Do you know what an attended tournament is like?lucasart wrote:Rather the other way around. SF will not participate in this tournament, because it's a big farce. Everything about this ICGA tournament is wrong:
* one game elimination = statistically meaningless results
* we would have to fly to Leiden with our hardware + hotel for a week, at our own expense. all that for what? to prove that SF can beat the shit out of all these patzer like Pandix, Crafty, Nightmare, Hiarcs, Junior etc.
* different hardware and different book, makes comparisons meaningless.
SF team should never lower themselves to participate in any ICGA event, IMO. ICGA is a dying dinosaur. Live and let die.
The only world championship is TCEC, and that's what we look forward to.
Your comments are pure rubbish.
That championships is for the participants it certainly has meaning to them, it has nothing to do with the non-participants.PaulieD wrote:If Stockfish 6 will not be present the "Championships" will be meaningless.
ICGA helps advance computer chess programming, it must have been interesting when programmers create such organization long ago. SF is not what today if not for this organization. It is more important when there is ICGA and without SF than there is SF but without ICGA.lucasart wrote:Rather the other way around. SF will not participate in this tournament, because it's a big farce. Everything about this ICGA tournament is wrong:
* one game elimination = statistically meaningless results
* we would have to fly to Leiden with our hardware + hotel for a week, at our own expense. all that for what? to prove that SF can beat the shit out of all these patzer like Pandix, Crafty, Nightmare, Hiarcs, Junior etc.
* different hardware and different book, makes comparisons meaningless.
SF team should never lower themselves to participate in any ICGA event, IMO. ICGA is a dying dinosaur. Live and let die.
The only world championship is TCEC, and that's what we look forward to.
Really? How? ICGA participants are mostly closed source, or even private engine. How exactly does this tournament help advance computer chess programming?Ferdy wrote:ICGA helps advance computer chess programming
You got it all wrong. SF would not be what it is today without Glaurung. Since Glaurung never participated to ICGA tournament, I don't see how ICGA could have helped Glaurung in any way.Ferdy wrote:SF is not what today if not for this organization.
Read below so you may know your elders and the organization that are responsible for our hobby.lucasart wrote:Really? How? ICGA participants are mostly closed source, or even private engine. How exactly does this tournament help advance computer chess programming?Ferdy wrote:ICGA helps advance computer chess programmingYou got it all wrong. SF would not be what it is today without Glaurung. Since Glaurung never participated to ICGA tournament, I don't see how ICGA could have helped Glaurung in any way.Ferdy wrote:SF is not what today if not for this organization.
The computer chess revolution was open source: Crafty, Fruit, Glaurung, Stockfish. Nothing else.
Sorry you forgot Ippolit.Crafty, Fruit, Glaurung, Stockfish. Nothing else.