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YAT - Yet another tournament
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WaDuuttie subscribed.
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Hello Ed. If this is played using the FICS/ICC/ICS protocol I can join, because my program has all of those capabilities using that. (opponent learning, book learning, elo based contempt, own hardware and os etc. etc, just like the regular tournaments). Let me know.
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Hi Marcel,mvk wrote:Hello Ed. If this is played using the FICS/ICC/ICS protocol I can join, because my program has all of those capabilities using that. (opponent learning, book learning, elo based contempt, own hardware and os etc. etc, just like the regular tournaments). Let me know.
That's great, you are a pioneer
There are a couple of reasons for doing this (new type of) tournament.
#1. Computer chess pretty much has grown up and maybe programmers are ready to move it to the next level with a new ELO challenge. Hence this tournament is meant to create initial interest.
#2. A second goal is to measure the difference in ELO in comparison with the existing rating lists. It's for that reason volume is required. And also uniformity in hardware. Hence the tournament will run on an 8 core PC to produce the 900-1000 games in a reasonable time.
#3. Oh, it's fun.
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Actually I don't understand how that works. Does that mean that if Skipper joins Skipper is running on your computer. If so I even don't know how to send an executable. Sending an executable using e-mail probably does not work.
If Skipper is running on my computer during the tournament I am not interested for I only have one computer.
If Skipper is running on my computer during the tournament I am not interested for I only have one computer.
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Can I subscribe Vajolet from here?
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May I suggest you a change to the opponent file? It would be easier for the engine if it also knows his own rating in your tournament!
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I suggest including two engines/entities;
1.) Stockfish 0x112015
running with no book.
This is interesting in two ways:
a.) Potentially one of the competitors could try and cook a win against it. This is very difficult but doeable in principle, and it might be fun to look at the game.
b.) It also serves to create an upperbound on what you can achieve using the additional pieces of information while your competitor doesn't do this at all.
2.) Crafty 24.1 with some default book.
The Crafty book learner is surprisingly effecient while being extremely easy to understand IMHO. To me it isn't self-evident if it isn't close to the optimum already.
Peter
1.) Stockfish 0x112015
running with no book.
This is interesting in two ways:
a.) Potentially one of the competitors could try and cook a win against it. This is very difficult but doeable in principle, and it might be fun to look at the game.
b.) It also serves to create an upperbound on what you can achieve using the additional pieces of information while your competitor doesn't do this at all.
2.) Crafty 24.1 with some default book.
The Crafty book learner is surprisingly effecient while being extremely easy to understand IMHO. To me it isn't self-evident if it isn't close to the optimum already.
Peter
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Yes.Henk wrote:Actually I don't understand how that works. Does that mean that if Skipper joins Skipper is running on your computer.
Zip itIf so I even don't know how to send an executable. Sending an executable using e-mail probably does not work.
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Ok, added Vajolet. If you can mail me the executable + book before November 25 that would be nice.elcabesa wrote:Can I subscribe Vajolet from here?