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MikeB
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Epic 800 Game Match

Post by MikeB » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:37 am

tc 2:30 with 5 sec increment
handpicked openings from CCRL which favor imbalance openings , but limited to max 65 CP or so advantage
12 Real Core Mac Pro , running 12 games concurrently

Epic 800 game match, the latest dev Stockfish ( the favorite) vs latest dev McCain ( underdog - not yet released )
400 opening lines , play from both sides, black and white, 800 games in total
NO adjudications - every game played to the bitter end.

played so far

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4 of 800 games completed...
Time control: 150 + 5.00 seconds
Threads: 1
Hash: 256
Date: 09/10/18 : 23:42:11
Rank Name                      Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR 
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   1 McCain v10                 3104   0.0    5    5     4    2.5  62.5    1    0    3  25.0  75.0  3096 
   2 Stockfish 100918 64 POPC   3096   8.9    5    5     4    1.5  37.5    0    1    3   0.0  75.0  3104 
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8 of 800 games completed...
Time control: 150 + 5.00 seconds
Threads: 1
Hash: 256
Date: 09/10/18 : 23:44:18
Rank Name                      Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR 
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   1 Stockfish 100918 64 POPC   3101   0.0   94   94     8    4.0  50.0    1    1    6  12.5  75.0  3099 
   2 McCain v10                 3099   2.5   94   94     8    4.0  50.0    1    1    6  12.5  75.0  3101 
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12 of 800 games completed...
Time control: 150 + 5.00 seconds
Threads: 1
Hash: 256
Date: 09/10/18 : 23:53:11
Rank Name                      Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR 
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   1 McCain v10                 3100   0.0   67   67    12    6.0  50.0    1    1   10   8.3  83.3  3100 
   2 Stockfish 100918 64 POPC   3100  -0.0   67   67    12    6.0  50.0    1    1   10   8.3  83.3  3100 
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16 of 800 games completed...
Time control: 150 + 5.00 seconds
Threads: 1
Hash: 256
Date: 09/10/18 : 23:57:45
Rank Name                      Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR 
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   1 Stockfish 100918 64 POPC   3100   0.0   52   52    16    8.0  50.0    1    1   14   6.2  87.5  3100 
   2 McCain v10                 3100   0.8   52   52    16    8.0  50.0    1    1   14   6.2  87.5  3100 
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20 of 800 games completed...
Time control: 150 + 5.00 seconds
Threads: 1
Hash: 256
Date: 09/11/18 : 00:02:41
Iteration 200: 3.70772e-05 
Rank Name                      Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR 
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   1 Stockfish 100918 64 POPC   3100   0.0   43   43    20   10.0  50.0    1    1   18   5.0  90.0  3100 
   2 McCain v10                 3100   0.5   43   43    20   10.0  50.0    1    1   18   5.0  90.0  3100 
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link to stay current with results ( updated every 4 games or about 10 minutes):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z0epiqqqqteb6 ... a.txt?dl=1

games completed so far:



link to pgn file to stay current, updated every 4 games, about every 10 minutes or so:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxqyc9zw4kzk3vo/all.pgn?dl=1

Latest McBrain/McCain Release - exe's and source for all systems:

https://github.com/MichaelB7/Stockfish/releases/tag/9.9

MikeB
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Re: Epic 800 Game Match

Post by MikeB » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:31 pm

final results, finished about 1.3 hours earlier than expected, results were about what I expected - SF has become very sensitive to minor changes in head to head play - SF team is still doing great work , gaining 40+ Elo since SF 9 - a little or ethanol 6 months.

McBrain will be retired and replaced by McCain permanently going forward.
Also , new McCain sources will take current Stockfish with all of McCain changes guarded by "If defines" so one can compile the source and get stand SF with all the bells and whistles ( play by Elo, Cerebellum book, variety play, and keyboard shortcuts), and get the true Stockfish playing exe ( will match current dev Sf move for move when released) if so desired . Will try to get some exe's complied as well

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Mac-Pro:~/cluster.mfb] michaelbyrne% submitrr
Base: 150 seconds
300 t_inc
Increment: 5.00 seconds
450 total time
400 positions
using 400 positions from EPD file
800 games planned
3362 run scripts were prepared.
800 games were planned
Match started:     09/10/18 : 23:27:26
Target completion: 09/11/18 : 19:27:26
...
800 rounds and 800 games completed...
Time control: 150 seconds + 5.00 seconds
Target completion: 09/11/18 : 19:27:26
Date: 09/11/18 : 18:08:52
800 game(s) loaded
Rank Name                      Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR 
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   1 Stockfish 100918 64 POPC   3112   0.0   13   13   800  428.0  53.5  155   99  546  19.4  68.2  3088 
   2 McCain v10                 3088  24.0   13   13   800  372.0  46.5   99  155  546  12.4  68.2  3112 
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Time to complete: 18:41:27

JJJ
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Re: Epic 800 Game Match

Post by JJJ » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:03 am

I don't understand your fascination for your clone and this clone match.

MikeB
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Re: Epic 800 Game Match

Post by MikeB » Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:14 am

JJJ wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:03 am
I don't understand your fascination for your clone and this clone match.
Well I guess that is going to be my little secret :D .

In computer science , a clone is an exact copy - and McCain is not an exact copy. It is a derivative, and there are thousands of posts here that discuss engine derivatives both there in tournaments and other forums as well. I hope that answers your question. For me , I'm just running the match to see how it does and whether my tweaks or not are working. Usually they are not. :D . it's no different than all the other basement tournaments being run here, i.e., the person who runs them wants to know the result.

BTW, I started a round 2 if the Epic 800 game match with updated versions of both Stockfish and McCain. Same links as before. This will update after every completed game - so just about every two minutes:

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11 of 800 games completed...
Time control: 150 + 5.00 seconds
Threads = 1
Hash = 256
Date: 09/12/18 : 02:11:23
11 game(s) loaded
Rank Name                      Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR 
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   1 McCain v10                 3113   0.0   85   85    11    6.0  54.5    2    1    8  18.2  72.7  3087 
   2 Stockfish 110918 64 POPC   3087  25.3   85   85    11    5.0  45.5    1    2    8   9.1  72.7  3113 
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And finally I appreciate that you and perhaps others have no interest and quite honestly , I'm not holding a gun to your head or anyone else and you may feel free to ignore, put me on your foe list , whatever you want to do that works for you. I will not be offended. Have a good day.

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