Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo) drawkiller tournament pgn

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Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo) drawkiller tournament pgn

Post by Hai » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:00 pm

Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo)

Drawkiller tournament pgn
After 40 games (still running)
Ponder on
LC0 with RTX 2080 Ti 32 kn/s
Stockfish 10 with 4 cores @ 4.2 ghz
Time control: 1 second per move.

Result:
LC0 18.5 points
Stockfish 21.5 points
+12 =13 -15
Winning percentage = 46.25% compare to http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69120

= LC0 is 26 elo weaker than Stockfish 10.

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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo) drawkiller tournament pgn

Post by Hai » Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:34 pm

After 105 games:

Result:
LC0 48.5
Stockfish 56.5
+30 =37 -38
Winning percentage = 46.19%

= LC0 is 27 elo weaker than Stockfish 10.

Match is still running.

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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo) drawkiller tournament pgn

Post by Hai » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:49 pm

After 287 games:

Result:
LC0 137
Stockfish 150
+85 =104 -98
Winning percentage = 47.74%

= LC0 is 16 elo weaker than Stockfish 10.
Feel free to compare drawkiller tournament pgn with the 20 possible opening moves.
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69120

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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo) drawkiller tournament pgn

Post by lucasart » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:46 am

Hai wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:49 pm
After 287 games:

Result:
LC0 137
Stockfish 150
+85 =104 -98
Winning percentage = 47.74%

= LC0 is 16 elo weaker than Stockfish 10.
Feel free to compare drawkiller tournament pgn with the 20 possible opening moves.
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69120
Is this the LC0 fake news network ? LC0 is nowhere near SF…
Theory and practice sometimes clash. And when that happens, theory loses. Every single time.

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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo) drawkiller tournament pgn

Post by mwyoung » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:03 pm

Theory and practice sometimes clash. And when this happens. Theory loses every time.

In practice Lc0 is closing in on Stockfish 10. Not in just my testing, but others. Practice wins again.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo) drawkiller tournament pgn

Post by Javier Ros » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:00 pm

Hai wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:00 pm
Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo)

Drawkiller tournament pgn
After 40 games (still running)
Ponder on
LC0 with RTX 2080 Ti 32 kn/s
Stockfish 10 with 4 cores @ 4.2 ghz
Time control: 1 second per move.

Result:
LC0 18.5 points
Stockfish 21.5 points
+12 =13 -15
Winning percentage = 46.25% compare to http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69120

= LC0 is 26 elo weaker than Stockfish 10.
Can you publish the games?
It would be very interesting.
The love relationship between a chess engine tester and his computer can be summarized in one sentence:
Until heat do us part.

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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo) drawkiller tournament pgn

Post by pohl4711 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:20 pm

Hai wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:49 pm
After 287 games:

Result:
LC0 137
Stockfish 150
+85 =104 -98
Winning percentage = 47.74%

= LC0 is 16 elo weaker than Stockfish 10.
Feel free to compare drawkiller tournament pgn with the 20 possible opening moves.
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69120
Nice to see, how good my Drawkiller openings work. After 287 games using Drawkiller, the draw-rate is 36%
40 games with the 20 possible opening moves (+7 =24 -9), the draw-rate is 60% and these 20 possible openingmoves contain strange moves like 1.a4 or 1.h4, which should lower the draw-rate,too...(with "classical, normal" openings, the draw-rate would be even higher than 60%))

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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo) drawkiller tournament pgn

Post by Hai » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:06 pm

Javier Ros wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:00 pm
Hai wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:00 pm
Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo)

Drawkiller tournament pgn
After 40 games (still running)
Ponder on
LC0 with RTX 2080 Ti 32 kn/s
Stockfish 10 with 4 cores @ 4.2 ghz
Time control: 1 second per move.

Result:
LC0 18.5 points
Stockfish 21.5 points
+12 =13 -15
Winning percentage = 46.25% compare to http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69120

= LC0 is 26 elo weaker than Stockfish 10.
Can you publish the games?
It would be very interesting.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/uf7q83ej3 ... s.pgn/file

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Re: Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo) drawkiller tournament pgn

Post by Javier Ros » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:07 am

Hai wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:06 pm
Javier Ros wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:00 pm
Hai wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:00 pm
Super bullet chess: LC0 network 31740 vs Stockfish 10 (~3500 elo)

Drawkiller tournament pgn
After 40 games (still running)
Ponder on
LC0 with RTX 2080 Ti 32 kn/s
Stockfish 10 with 4 cores @ 4.2 ghz
Time control: 1 second per move.

Result:
LC0 18.5 points
Stockfish 21.5 points
+12 =13 -15
Winning percentage = 46.25% compare to http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69120

= LC0 is 26 elo weaker than Stockfish 10.
Can you publish the games?
It would be very interesting.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/uf7q83ej3 ... s.pgn/file
Thanks.
The love relationship between a chess engine tester and his computer can be summarized in one sentence:
Until heat do us part.

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