How close in strength is ScorpioNN to Stoofvlees II a10 ?

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How close in strength is ScorpioNN to Stoofvlees II a10 ?

Post by Chessqueen » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:44 pm

Does anybody know the answer ? I see that Stoofvlees II a10 is rated as high as Komodo and Houdini here, but nothing about ScorpioNN. Gian Carlo Pascutto has done a very good job with Stoofvlees II a10 which is rated much higher than his previous Deep Sjeng 2797 ever was http://www.cegt.net/40_40%20Rating%20Li ... liste.html

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Re: How close in strength is ScorpioNN to Stoofvlees II a10 ?

Post by Chessqueen » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:03 pm

Chessqueen wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:44 pm
Does anybody know the answer ? I see that Stoofvlees II a10 is rated as high as Komodo and Houdini here, but nothing about ScorpioNN. Gian Carlo Pascutto has done a very good job with Stoofvlees II a10 which is rated much higher than his previous Deep Sjeng 2797 ever was http://www.cegt.net/40_40%20Rating%20Li ... liste.html
I found where we will find out very soon https://tcec.chessdom.com/

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Re: How close in strength is ScorpioNN to Stoofvlees II a10 ?

Post by Chessqueen » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:30 am

Chessqueen wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:03 pm
Chessqueen wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:44 pm
Does anybody know the answer ? I see that Stoofvlees II a10 is rated as high as Komodo and Houdini here, but nothing about ScorpioNN. Gian Carlo Pascutto has done a very good job with Stoofvlees II a10 which is rated much higher than his previous Deep Sjeng 2797 ever was http://www.cegt.net/40_40%20Rating%20Li ... liste.html
I found where we will find out very soon https://tcec.chessdom.com/
There is no question that Stoofvlees and ScorpioNN are too strong for the rest of these programs on this division ==> https://tcec.chessdom.com

http://www.cegt.net/40_40%20Rating%20Li ... liste.html

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Re: How close in strength is ScorpioNN to Stoofvlees II a10 ?

Post by Werner » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:55 am

In my short tests it is about 100 points behind StoofVlees II a10 (I do not have enough games for a better comparison)
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Re: How close in strength is ScorpioNN to Stoofvlees II a10 ?

Post by Chessqueen » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:20 am

Werner wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:55 am
In my short tests it is about 100 points behind StoofVlees II a10 (I do not have enough games for a better comparison)
It seems that they are very close probably within 35 to 50 rating points according to ScorpioNN performance here in TCEC ==> https://tcec.chessdom.com/

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Re: How close in strength is ScorpioNN to Stoofvlees II a10 ?

Post by Werner » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:12 am

It depends on the Hardware used. My games are played on a I5 5500K and a GTX 1650. Here Stoofvlees runs with 5knps and Scorpio with 5knneps (45knps). In my current match result of Scorpio is equal to Fire 7.1 x64 1CPU . Stoofvlees is 150 Points in front of Fire.
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Re: How close in strength is ScorpioNN to Stoofvlees II a10 ?

Post by Modern Times » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:39 am

Plus the volume of games in TCEC is pretty low so drawing any conclusion from them is subject to error.
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Re: How close in strength is ScorpioNN to Stoofvlees II a10 ?

Post by Werner » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:28 am

I have now 300 games:

Scorpio 2.9.0 MCTS+NN Maddex 3237 +29 -29 300games;
About 100 Points behind Stoofvlees
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Re: How close in strength is ScorpioNN to Stoofvlees II a10 ?

Post by Chessqueen » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:30 pm

Werner wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:28 am
I have now 300 games:

Scorpio 2.9.0 MCTS+NN Maddex 3237 +29 -29 300games;
About 100 Points behind Stoofvlees
Have you tested Stoofvlees II a11 and ScorpioNN v2.9.1-n_maddex_INT8
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Re: How close in strength is ScorpioNN to Stoofvlees II a10 ?

Post by Werner » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:58 pm

I tested Scorpio2.9.1 maddex and Stoofvlees a10.
a11 at the Moment has only 200 games. Results later.
TCEC hardware is not optimal for Stoofvlees. Here 5knps on a Gtx 1650. TCEC : 11 knps ?
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