Leela Chess Zero 42845 vs. Stockfish 8, 15m+15s

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mwyoung
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Leela Chess Zero 42845 vs. Stockfish 8, 15m+15s

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Leela Chess Zero 42845 vs. Stockfish 8, 15m+15s

Marathon Match

Hardware 2950x, RTX 2080 ti
Stockfish, 32 Threads, 4 GB HT
Lc0 , 4 Threads
6 man Tablebase
8 move opening book, optimal
TC= Game in 15m +15s
Ponder = off

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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42845 vs. Stockfish 8, 15m+15s

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AlphaZero Stat playing Stockfish 8

"The updated AlphaZero crushed Stockfish 8 in a new 1,000-game match, scoring +155 -6 =839."
AlphaZero 80K nps
Stockfish 8 70M nps

This was win percentage of 57.5% (+53 elo) for AlphaZero over Stockfish 8. And Stockfish 8 played without table bases.

For this match my system runs about 1/2 the speed. A little less then half for Lc0 nps, and a little more then half speed for Stockfish 8 nps, but Stockfish has TB's.

Leela Ration is 1.14.
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42845 vs. Stockfish 8, 15m+15s

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First update, I plan on playing 100 games. If AlphaZero was crushing Stockfish 8. Then Lc0 is obliterating Stockfish 8 in the first 20 games.
This is the first test for the NN 42845. And it looks to be one of the better NN so far.

DESKTOP-CORSAIR, Rapid 15m+15s 0


1 Lc0 v0.22.0 +168 +9/=11/-0 72.50% 14.5/20
2 Stockfish 8 64 POPCNT -168 +0/=11/-9 27.50% 5.5/20
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42845 vs. Stockfish 8, 15m+15s

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DESKTOP-CORSAIR, Rapid 15m+15s 0


1 Lc0 v0.22.0 +105 +14/=25/-2 64.63% 26.5/41
2 Stockfish 8 64 POPCNT -105 +2/=25/-14 35.37% 14.5/41
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42845 vs. Stockfish 8, 15m+15s

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DESKTOP-CORSAIR, Rapid 15m+15s 0


1 Lc0 v0.22.0 +104 +22/=36/-4 64.52% 40.0/62
2 Stockfish 8 64 POPCNT -104 +4/=36/-22 35.48% 22.0/62
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42845 vs. Stockfish 8, 15m+15s

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It tooks 1000 game for alphazero to have 6 loss.
It tooks 62 game for Leelazero to have 4 loss.
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42845 vs. Stockfish 8, 15m+15s

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JJJ wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:43 am It tooks 1000 game for alphazero to have 6 loss.
It tooks 62 game for Leelazero to have 4 loss.
But Lc0 is winning at a much higher rate, regardless of the losses.

Lc0's win percentage is 64.52% (+104 elo)
AlphaZero's win percentage is 57.5% (+53 elo)
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42845 vs. Stockfish 8, 15m+15s

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mwyoung wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:15 am AlphaZero Stat playing Stockfish 8

"The updated AlphaZero crushed Stockfish 8 in a new 1,000-game match, scoring +155 -6 =839."
AlphaZero 80K nps
Stockfish 8 70M nps

This was win percentage of 57.5% (+53 elo) for AlphaZero over Stockfish 8. And Stockfish 8 played without table bases.

For this match my system runs about 1/2 the speed. A little less then half for Lc0 nps, and a little more then half speed for Stockfish 8 nps, but Stockfish has TB's.

Leela Ration is 1.14.
Lc0 vs Sf8 15m+15s.jpg
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