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Re: Dylan Sharp Vs. Harvey Williamson (G4)
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:01 am
by zullil
Since both players have apparently completed their 17th moves, here is the initial portion of Stockfish's PV as it was when I terminated the search, after the game went dark:
14. Rxc5 Qd7 15. Qb3 Rad8 16. Rfc1 Rfe8 17. Qd3 Bxf3.
Re: Dylan Sharp Vs. Harvey Williamson (G4)
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:11 am
by Harvey Williamson
Move 16 for white was different.
Re: Dylan Sharp Vs. Harvey Williamson (G4)
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:52 am
by jp
And which move 16 of the two did you regard as better?
Re: Dylan Sharp Vs. Harvey Williamson (G4)
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:31 am
by Ovyron
zullil wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:01 am
14. Rxc5 Qd7 15. Qb3 Rad8 16. Rfc1 Rfe8 17. Qd3 Bxf3.
I had this variation as losing for white
So if Harvey thinks my 16th move was worse than 16.Rfc1, I'm in deep trouble...
Re: Dylan Sharp Vs. Harvey Williamson (G4)
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:42 pm
by Harvey Williamson
Ovyron wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:31 am
zullil wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:01 am
14. Rxc5 Qd7 15. Qb3 Rad8 16. Rfc1 Rfe8 17. Qd3 Bxf3.
I had this variation as losing for white
So if Harvey thinks my 16th move was worse than 16.Rfc1, I'm in deep trouble...
I had both moves at about the same.
Re: Dylan Sharp Vs. Harvey Williamson (G4)
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:30 am
by Ovyron
Now that zullil has opened to sharing a PV I'm willing to open the game again. All zullil would need to do is not discarding the PVs that are shown when he gets the score that he reports, to save them to show them at a later point in the game (when they don't transpose or when the game is over.)
Otherwise, the game is private and I will not accept requests of people that have been asking or will be asking for game reports. This is between Harvey and me, or an experience to be shared for everyone, but to me it's an all or nothing deal, if only a few selected individuals were selected to be allowed to spectate it'd go against the reason the game was closed in the first place (only a single individual being able to see zullil's PVs, and that individual being zullil himself.)
Re: Dylan Sharp Vs. Harvey Williamson (G4)
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:23 am
by Uri Blass
You have no way to know if only zullil can see his PVs.
The only thing that you can know is that you cannot see his PVs.
You have no way to know that zullil does not share his PVs with other people assuming the relevant people do not share them with all the world.
Re: Dylan Sharp Vs. Harvey Williamson (G4)
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:25 am
by zullil
Ovyron wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:30 am
Now that zullil has opened to sharing a PV I'm willing to open the game again. All zullil would need to do is not discarding the PVs that are shown when he gets the score that he reports, to save them to show them at a later point in the game (when they don't transpose or when the game is over.)
Otherwise, the game is private and I will not accept requests of people that have been asking or will be asking for game reports. This is between Harvey and me, or an experience to be shared for everyone, but to me it's an all or nothing deal, if only a few selected individuals were selected to be allowed to spectate it'd go against the reason the game was closed in the first place (only a single individual being able to see zullil's PVs, and that individual being zullil himself.)
As I said, the few moves I posted recently were from the PV that Stockfish had when I
terminated the search. I shared that final PV and evaluation with Dann for his database, and then set my machine to other tasks.
Reopening the game to the public is about you, not me---as was closing it in the first place. In any case, I don't intend to kibitz or post further.
Re: Dylan Sharp Vs. Harvey Williamson (G4)
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:22 pm
by Ovyron
zullil wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:25 amI don't intend to kibitz or post further.
I'm an atheist, but thank god.
Sorry everyone else for the inconvenience, I'm asking Harvey about reopening the game.
Re: Dylan Sharp Vs. Harvey Williamson (G4)
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:35 pm
by Harvey Williamson
here is the current position. I have just made my 18th move:
[pgn]1. g4 d5 2. g5 e5 3. d4 exd4 4. Nf3 c5 5. Bg2 Nc6 6. c3 dxc3 7. Nxc3 Nge7 8. O-O d4 9. Ne4 Ng6 10. a3 Bg4 11. Bd2 Qd7 12. Rc1 Be7 13. Nxc5 Bxc5 14. Rxc5 O-O 15. Re1 Rfe8 16. Qb3 Rad8 17. Qd3 b6 18. Rcc1 Bf5[/pgn]
I was hoping for 18. Rc2 as I found Re6!