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jp wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:22 pm

zullil wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:39 pm According to Stockfish-dev ... the eval is now -4.12, and is slowly falling with each move.

"Falling" I assume means from White's perspective it's going left on the real line.

Stockfish likes White's position less and less, despite White's playing what Stockfish considers best moves. Seeing -4.30 right now. (And am saving the current PV.)

[pgn]1. g4 d5 2. g5 e5 3. d4 exd4 4. Nf3 c5 5. Bg2 Ne7 6. c3 dxc3 7. Nxc3 Nbc6 8. O-O d4 9. Ne4 Ng6 10. a3 Bg4 11. Bd2 Bd6 12. Rc1 O-O 13. Nxc5 Bxc5 14. Rxc5 Qd7 15. Qb3 Rad8 16. Re1 Be6 17. Qd3 Rfe8 18. e4 b6 19. Rcc1 Bg4 20. Rxc6 Qxc6 21. Nxd4 Qc5 22. Be3 Ne5 23. Qc3 Qxc3 24. bxc3 Rc8 25. f3 Be6 26. Nb5 Red8 27. Bd4 Nc6 28. Be3 a6 29. Nd4 Ne5 30. Rc1 Nc4 31. Bf4 Nxa3 32. Bf1 a5 33. Ba6 Rc5 34. Be3 Bc4[/pgn]

zullil wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:43 pm But, in any case, resignation is best done in public.

But if I resign, what are you going to use your computer for?

Anyway, glad to hear you're saving those PVs now, will be interesting to see them later.

1. g4 d5 2. g5 e5 3. d4 exd4 4. Nf3 c5 5. Bg2 Ne7 6. c3 dxc3 7. Nxc3 Nbc6 8. O-O d4 9. Ne4 Ng6 10. a3 Bg4 11. Bd2 Bd6 12. Rc1 O-O 13. Nxc5 Bxc5 14. Rxc5 Qd7 15. Qb3 Rad8 16. Re1 Be6 17. Qd3 Rfe8 18. e4 b6 19. Rcc1 Bg4 20. Rxc6 Qxc6 21. Nxd4 Qc5 22. Be3 Ne5 23. Qc3 Qxc3 24. bxc3 Rc8 25. f3 Be6 26. Nb5 Red8 27. Bd4 Nc6 28. Be3 a6 29. Nd4 Ne5 30. Rc1 Nc4 31. Bf4 Nxa3 32. Bf1 a5 33. Ba6 Rc5 34. Be3 Bc4 35. Bb7

[d]3r2k1/1B3ppp/1p6/p1r3P1/2bNP3/n1P1BP2/7P/2R3K1 b - -

[pgn]1. g4 d5 2. g5 e5 3. d4 exd4 4. Nf3 c5 5. Bg2 Ne7 6. c3 dxc3 7. Nxc3 Nbc6 8. O-O d4 9. Ne4 Ng6 10. a3 Bg4 11. Bd2 Bd6 12. Rc1 O-O 13. Nxc5 Bxc5 14. Rxc5 Qd7 15. Qb3 Rad8 16. Re1 Be6 17. Qd3 Rfe8 18. e4 b6 19. Rcc1 Bg4 20. Rxc6 Qxc6 21. Nxd4 Qc5 22. Be3 Ne5 23. Qc3 Qxc3 24. bxc3 Rc8 25. f3 Be6 26. Nb5 Red8 27. Bd4 Nc6 28. Be3 a6 29. Nd4 Ne5 30. Rc1 Nc4 31. Bf4 Nxa3 32. Bf1 a5 33. Ba6 Rc5 34. Be3 Bc4 35. Bb7 Rc7[/pgn]

1. g4 d5 2. g5 e5 3. d4 exd4 4. Nf3 c5 5. Bg2 Ne7 6. c3 dxc3 7. Nxc3 Nbc6 8. O-O d4 9. Ne4 Ng6 10. a3 Bg4 11. Bd2 Bd6 12. Rc1 O-O 13. Nxc5 Bxc5 14. Rxc5 Qd7 15. Qb3 Rad8 16. Re1 Be6 17. Qd3 Rfe8 18. e4 b6 19. Rcc1 Bg4 20. Rxc6 Qxc6 21. Nxd4 Qc5 22. Be3 Ne5 23. Qc3 Qxc3 24. bxc3 Rc8 25. f3 Be6 26. Nb5 Red8 27. Bd4 Nc6 28. Be3 a6 29. Nd4 Ne5 30. Rc1 Nc4 31. Bf4 Nxa3 32. Bf1 a5 33. Ba6 Rc5 34. Be3 Bc4 35. Bb7 Rc7 36. Ra1

[d]3r2k1/1Br2ppp/1p6/p5P1/2bNP3/n1P1BP2/7P/R5K1 b - -

Ovyron wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:06 pm 1. g4 d5 2. g5 e5 3. d4 exd4 4. Nf3 c5 5. Bg2 Ne7 6. c3 dxc3 7. Nxc3 Nbc6 8. O-O d4 9. Ne4 Ng6 10. a3 Bg4 11. Bd2 Bd6 12. Rc1 O-O 13. Nxc5 Bxc5 14. Rxc5 Qd7 15. Qb3 Rad8 16. Re1 Be6 17. Qd3 Rfe8 18. e4 b6 19. Rcc1 Bg4 20. Rxc6 Qxc6 21. Nxd4 Qc5 22. Be3 Ne5 23. Qc3 Qxc3 24. bxc3 Rc8 25. f3 Be6 26. Nb5 Red8 27. Bd4 Nc6 28. Be3 a6 29. Nd4 Ne5 30. Rc1 Nc4 31. Bf4 Nxa3 32. Bf1 a5 33. Ba6 Rc5 34. Be3 Bc4 35. Bb7 Rc7 36. Ra1

[d]3r2k1/1Br2ppp/1p6/p5P1/2bNP3/n1P1BP2/7P/R5K1 b - -

Best according to Stockfish, but this game has been over for a while now. Eval is approaching -6.

zullil wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:36 pm this game has been over for a while now

Oh, I didn't know, I thought it was still going. Did I draw it?

Ovyron wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:54 pm

zullil wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:36 pm this game has been over for a while now

Oh, I didn't know, I thought it was still going. Did I draw it?

No, you didn't. You failed to support your claim about having a drawing line beginning with 1. g4.

-6.40 now at depth 60 ... (and yes, I saved the current PV).

Maybe it's time to turn to your demonstration that the Italian game is "busted" ...

zullil wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:26 pm You failed to support your claim about having a drawing line beginning with 1. g4.

I did? When did the game end and why? I think your claim that the game has already ended is spurious and I expect that Harvey will play another move to prove the game's still ongoing.

First, thanks for the game, it's really exciting. And double thanks for making it open again.

Can the "but but but my Stockfish says bla bla bla" fraction please shut up lest the players decide to continue the game via PM again?