Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Zenmastur » Sun May 24, 2020 3:59 pm

Ovyron wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 12:35 am
Zenmastur wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 9:20 pm
8.Qxb5
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9.Qc5

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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Ovyron » Mon May 25, 2020 9:03 am

Zenmastur wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:59 pm
9.Qc5
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6


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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Zenmastur » Tue May 26, 2020 3:04 am

Ovyron wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 9:03 am
Zenmastur wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:59 pm
9.Qc5
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10.Qc3+

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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Ovyron » Tue May 26, 2020 10:02 am

Zenmastur wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 3:04 am
10.Qc3+
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6


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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Zenmastur » Thu May 28, 2020 1:54 pm

Ovyron wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:02 am
Zenmastur wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 3:04 am
10.Qc3+
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11.Qd4

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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Ovyron » Fri May 29, 2020 6:46 am

Zenmastur wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 1:54 pm
11.Qd4
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4


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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Zenmastur » Sat May 30, 2020 1:33 am

Ovyron wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 6:46 am
Zenmastur wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 1:54 pm
11.Qd4
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12.Rxd4

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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Ovyron » Sat May 30, 2020 4:00 am

Zenmastur wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 1:33 am
12.Rxd4
I'm playing this without much analysis (remaining) at all. I had expected 11.Rd2 Kh7 12.Qd4 Qxd4 12.Rd4 Kg7 13.x Kf8, but it seems I'm basically just a tempo ahead...

[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8


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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by zullil » Sat May 30, 2020 6:48 pm

Ovyron wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 4:00 am
Zenmastur wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 1:33 am
12.Rxd4
I'm playing this without much analysis (remaining) at all. I had expected 11.Rd2 Kh7 12.Qd4 Qxd4 12.Rd4 Kg7 13.x Kf8, but it seems I'm basically just a tempo ahead...

[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8

My Stockfish-dev has been searching this position now for many days (with 6-man tables, and with some forward/backward guidance supplied by me). I'm happy to share the current numerical eval, but only if both players give consent.

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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Dann Corbit » Sat May 30, 2020 10:16 pm

I am eager to see the reverse game when this one ends in a draw.
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