Re: FCP Tourney-2020: 41.000 games 20+5 to play on Intel i9-10900k
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:40 pm
Hi Jouni,
possible!
I think Robert Houdert tuned on different positions:
- avaid draw with Contempt = 0, must be inside the sources.
- higher evals for black pieces (more aggressive play as Stockfish between 8 and 9). I remember on a test in Rybka forum. Rybka 4 versions are around 30 Elo stronger with such tunings. Not a new idea!
- avoid to switched the queen and knight / bishop with many pieces on board (if I compare with Stockfish 8-9).
- different other things I found.
If so, Robert Houdert have good ideas he added in all of his Houdini program versions, not only v6.03.
A long time Houdini is on place 1 with the tunings Robert do.
No Komodo or Stockfish are stronger, do you remember?
Can't be bad the work Robert do here.
The advantage from my tourney is ...
All files are inside in the download.
No problem to delete programs from the database and calculate all again.
Best
Frank
PS: Yes many strengths in Houdini 6.03 looks like to be a Stockfish (for me too, endgames, transposition into endgame, pawn structur other things) but fact is that all the time the same good tunings are in all the Houdini versions. Can be easy see with easy statistics. But I am quit sure, that in many other chess programs are the good known ideas inside, not Houdini only. Fruit / Senpai sources for an example seems to be populare. The reason that I will not public all of the statistics to the still running tourney because I have no interest on such discussion. I like the style from Houdini but I dislike that Houdini is commercial available with closed sources. And I dislike to read reviews about commercial products, with the information that Houdini is a sensational chess engines. Speaking from reviews to Chessbase programs. I think such things ended but I read it for 2 months again. No words about Stockfish inside the review. Allways the same ...
Have a look on:
Equinox = IPP with better endgames (many difficult endgames are stronger as from best available IPPs)
GullChess = Improved IPP (perfect work because king safty is much better and bugfree, most IPPs have a lot of bugs)
Fire = IPP sources inside (strong work, I like the eval from the middlegames ... means eval is balanced and not speculative, eval I like most ... from all available chess engines).
Rybka / Fruit ... for me is Rybka a Fruit with a lot of endgame knowledge.
The middlegame is the same.
And so on ...
possible!
I think Robert Houdert tuned on different positions:
- avaid draw with Contempt = 0, must be inside the sources.
- higher evals for black pieces (more aggressive play as Stockfish between 8 and 9). I remember on a test in Rybka forum. Rybka 4 versions are around 30 Elo stronger with such tunings. Not a new idea!
- avoid to switched the queen and knight / bishop with many pieces on board (if I compare with Stockfish 8-9).
- different other things I found.
If so, Robert Houdert have good ideas he added in all of his Houdini program versions, not only v6.03.
A long time Houdini is on place 1 with the tunings Robert do.
No Komodo or Stockfish are stronger, do you remember?
Can't be bad the work Robert do here.
The advantage from my tourney is ...
All files are inside in the download.
No problem to delete programs from the database and calculate all again.
Best
Frank
PS: Yes many strengths in Houdini 6.03 looks like to be a Stockfish (for me too, endgames, transposition into endgame, pawn structur other things) but fact is that all the time the same good tunings are in all the Houdini versions. Can be easy see with easy statistics. But I am quit sure, that in many other chess programs are the good known ideas inside, not Houdini only. Fruit / Senpai sources for an example seems to be populare. The reason that I will not public all of the statistics to the still running tourney because I have no interest on such discussion. I like the style from Houdini but I dislike that Houdini is commercial available with closed sources. And I dislike to read reviews about commercial products, with the information that Houdini is a sensational chess engines. Speaking from reviews to Chessbase programs. I think such things ended but I read it for 2 months again. No words about Stockfish inside the review. Allways the same ...
Have a look on:
Equinox = IPP with better endgames (many difficult endgames are stronger as from best available IPPs)
GullChess = Improved IPP (perfect work because king safty is much better and bugfree, most IPPs have a lot of bugs)
Fire = IPP sources inside (strong work, I like the eval from the middlegames ... means eval is balanced and not speculative, eval I like most ... from all available chess engines).
Rybka / Fruit ... for me is Rybka a Fruit with a lot of endgame knowledge.
The middlegame is the same.
And so on ...