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81st Amateur Series Division 6

Post by Graham Banks » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:10 pm

81ST AMATEUR SERIES (Division 6)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2019.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will be relegated. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Participants

ECE 20.1 64-bit
Drosophila 1.6 64-bit
Nawito 1906
Delocto 0.61n 64-bit
Betsabe II 1.96
OliThink 5.6.9 64-bit
Galjoen 0.40.1 64-bit
Jumbo 0.7.0 64-bit
Detroid 1.0.1 64-bit
Stash 19.2 64-bit
Raven 1.10 64-bit
Frank Walter 2.4.0 64-bit

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Re: 81st Amateur Series Division 6

Post by Graham Banks » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:13 pm

Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=12347

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com

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Re: 81st Amateur Series Division 6

Post by Graham Banks » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:57 pm

81ST AMATEUR SERIES (Division 6)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2019.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will be relegated. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Standings after Round 6

5.0 - Galjoen 0.40.1 64-bit
4.5 - Betsabe II 1.96
4.0 - Stash 19.2 64-bit
4.0 - Delocto 0.61n 64-bit
3.5 - Detroid 1.0.1 64-bit
3.0 - ECE 20.1 64-bit
3.0 - Drosophila 1.6 64-bit
2.0 - Nawito 1906
2.0 - Jumbo 0.7.0 64-bit
2.0 - FrankWalter 2.4.0 64-bit
1.5 - Raven 1.0 64-bit
1.5 - OliThink 5.6.9 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=12347

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com

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Re: 81st Amateur Series Division 6

Post by OliverBr » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:23 am

Hi Graham,
thank you very much for those great tournaments. You are putting a lot of work into it and it's worth it!
Graham Banks wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:57 pm

Standings after Round 6

5.0 - Galjoen 0.40.1 64-bit
4.5 - Betsabe II 1.96
4.0 - Stash 19.2 64-bit
4.0 - Delocto 0.61n 64-bit
3.5 - Detroid 1.0.1 64-bit
3.0 - ECE 20.1 64-bit
3.0 - Drosophila 1.6 64-bit
2.0 - Nawito 1906
2.0 - Jumbo 0.7.0 64-bit
2.0 - FrankWalter 2.4.0 64-bit
1.5 - Raven 1.0 64-bit
1.5 - OliThink 5.6.9 64-bit
this standing ist most interesting and disturbing at once. Galjoin 0.40 64-bit has been a sparring's partner for OliThink 5.6.5 and was about the same strength:

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   # PLAYER            :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  CFS(%)
   1 Galjoen 0.40      :      13     14  1038.0    2000  51.9  820  436  744  21.8      97
   2 OliThink 5.6.5    :       0   ----   962.0    2000  48.1  744  436  820  21.8     ---

White advantage = 9.13 +/- 6.92
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 21.83 % +/- 0.92
In order to verify I am running now a match between Galjoin 0.40 and OliThink 5.6.9 and this looks as expected:

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   # PLAYER            :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  CFS(%)
   1 OliThink 5.6.9    :      43     24   374.0     666  56.2  308  132  226  19.8     100
   2 Galjoen 0.40      :       0   ----   292.0     666  43.8  226  132  308  19.8     ---

White advantage = 5.34 +/- 11.88
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 20.01 % +/- 1.58
OliThink 5.6.9 looks stronger than Galjoen 0.40. I am hoping, it's getting a big turn later ;)

One, perhaps related question:
How do the "3-4-5 piece tablebases" work for each engine? Does ChessGUI adjudicate when 5 or less pieces are on the board?
Chess Engine OliThink: http://brausch.org/home/chess
OliThink GitHub:https://github.com/olithink

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Re: 81st Amateur Series Division 6

Post by OliverBr » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:24 am

OliverBr wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:23 am
OliThink 5.6.9 looks stronger than Galjoen 0.40. I am hoping, it's getting a big turn later ;)
It's the time control that makes the difference.
I am checking now slower matches and the longer the Time Control, the better Galjoen becomes compared to OliThink. The question is not: It's a strength of Galjoen or a weakness of OliThink?
Chess Engine OliThink: http://brausch.org/home/chess
OliThink GitHub:https://github.com/olithink

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Re: 81st Amateur Series Division 6

Post by Graham Banks » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:45 pm

OliverBr wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:23 am
How do the "3-4-5 piece tablebases" work for each engine? Does ChessGUI adjudicate when 5 or less pieces are on the board?
1. The various tablebases are on a usb stick, and both the GUI and engines (where applicable) have the path to them entered.
2. Yes, 99% of the time the GUI will auto adjudicate..
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Re: 81st Amateur Series Division 6

Post by Graham Banks » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:48 am

81ST AMATEUR SERIES (Division 6)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2019.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will be relegated. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Standings after Round 12

9.5 - Betsabe II 1.96
7.5 - Drosophila 1.6 64-bit
7.0 - Galjoen 0.40.1 64-bit
7.0 - Delocto 0.61n 64-bit
6.5 - ECE 20.1 64-bit
6.5 - Nawito 1906
6.0 - Detroid 1.0.1 64-bit
5.0 - Stash 19.2 64-bit
5.0 - Jumbo 0.7.0 64-bit
4.5 - OliThink 5.6.9 64-bit
4.5 - FrankWalter 2.4.0 64-bit
3.0 - Raven 1.0 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=12347

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com

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Re: 81st Amateur Series Division 6

Post by Graham Banks » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:02 pm

81ST AMATEUR SERIES (Division 6)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2019.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will be relegated. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Standings after Round 18

12.0 - Betsabe II 1.96
11.5 - Delocto 0.61n 64-bit
11.0 - Nawito 1906
11.0 - ECE 20.1 64-bit
10.5 - Drosophila 1.6 64-bit
10.0 - Galjoen 0.40.1 64-bit
8.5 - Detroid 1.0.1 64-bit
8.0 - OliThink 5.6.9 64-bit
7.5 - Jumbo 0.7.0 64-bit
7.0 - FrankWalter 2.4.0 64-bit
6.5 - Stash 19.2 64-bit
4.5 - Raven 1.0 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=12347

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com

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Re: 81st Amateur Series Division 6

Post by Graham Banks » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:05 am

81ST AMATEUR SERIES (Division 6)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2019.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will be relegated. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Standings after Round 24

16.5 - ECE 20.1 64-bit
15.0 - Nawito 1906
14.0 - Drosophila 1.6 64-bit
14.0 - Delocto 0.61n 64-bit
14.0 - Betsabe II 1.96
13.0 - Galjoen 0.40.1 64-bit
11.0 - Detroid 1.0.1 64-bit
10.5 - OliThink 5.6.9 64-bit
10.5 - FrankWalter 2.4.0 64-bit
9.5 - Jumbo 0.7.0 64-bit
8.5 - Stash 19.2 64-bit
7.5 - Raven 1.0 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=12347

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com

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Re: 81st Amateur Series Division 6

Post by Graham Banks » Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:47 am

81ST AMATEUR SERIES (Division 6)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2019.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will be relegated. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Standings after Round 30

21.0 - ECE 20.1 64-bit
19.5 - Nawito 1906
18.0 - Drosophila 1.6 64-bit
17.0 - Delocto 0.61n 64-bit
17.0 - Betsabe II 1.96
15.0 - Galjoen 0.40.1 64-bit
14.0 - Detroid 1.0.1 64-bit
12.5 - OliThink 5.6.9 64-bit
12.5 - FrankWalter 2.4.0 64-bit
12.5 - Jumbo 0.7.0 64-bit
11.5 - Stash 19.2 64-bit
9.5 - Raven 1.0 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=12347

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com

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