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FGRL rating list, 60 min + 15 sec - 1. Stockfish 12, 11. Igel 2.7.0 NNUE

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:22 am
by fastgm
FGRL rating list - 60 min + 15 sec

Stockfish 12 (+51 to Stockfish 11)
Igel 2.7.0 NNUE (+157 to Igel 2.5.0)

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Re: FGRL rating list, 60 min + 15 sec - 1. Stockfish 12, 11. Igel 2.7.0 NNUE

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:54 pm
by Jouni
No scaling problems for SF 12 as someone expected.

Re: FGRL rating list, 60 min + 15 sec - 1. Stockfish 12, 11. Igel 2.7.0 NNUE

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:47 pm
by mehmet123
Yes, there ara scaling problems. Look at 10 min+ 6 sec rating list. Stockfish 12 vs Stockfish 11 elo difference is +75 elo at this rating list. But at 60 min + 15 sec rating list Stockfish 12 vs Stockfish 11 elo difference is +55 elo

Re: FGRL rating list, 60 min + 15 sec - 1. Stockfish 12, 11. Igel 2.7.0 NNUE

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:43 pm
by Alayan
Elo compression at longer TCs makes comparison harder.

If I just pick SF11 vs SF9, +66 elo at 10m+6s and +65 elo at 60m+15s, it would seem SF11 gains over previous versions hold up better with higher TCs, but once you consider the error bars from small sample size, the trend isn't significant enough.

Time-to-elo testing would be the proper way to go - compare time ratio needed to achieve a given strength