SPCC: Longtime-testrun of Stockfish vs Lc0 66680 finished

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SPCC: Longtime-testrun of Stockfish vs Lc0 66680 finished

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NN-longtime testrun of Stockfish 201225 vs Lc0 0.26.3 66680 finished ("SuFi for the poor").

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Really nice. Thanks for your work !
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Pi4Chess wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:03 pm Really nice. Thanks for your work !
My pleasure.
The result is the best of all longtime testruns so far: Lc0 -50 Elo behind latest SF-Dev. In a TCEC Superfinal with really long thinkingtime and extremly fast hardware, the result could be (and I expect that) much closer. But I have no doubt, that Stockfish is still stronger. When a Leela-Ratio near 1.0 is used, only, of course.
But Lc0 has made much progress. Without the nnue-revolution, Stockfish would be clearly weaker and Lc0 would be the world's #1 engine.
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Yeah i agree with all you said.
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pohl4711 wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:37 pm
Pi4Chess wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:03 pm Really nice. Thanks for your work !
My pleasure.
The result is the best of all longtime testruns so far: Lc0 -50 Elo behind latest SF-Dev. In a TCEC Superfinal with really long thinkingtime and extremly fast hardware, the result could be (and I expect that) much closer. But I have no doubt, that Stockfish is still stronger. When a Leela-Ratio near 1.0 is used, only, of course.
But Lc0 has made much progress. Without the nnue-revolution, Stockfish would be clearly weaker and Lc0 would be the world's #1 engine.
I will be curious to see how the same net fares inside Ceres.
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Albert Silver wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:01 am
pohl4711 wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:37 pm
Pi4Chess wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:03 pm Really nice. Thanks for your work !
My pleasure.
The result is the best of all longtime testruns so far: Lc0 -50 Elo behind latest SF-Dev. In a TCEC Superfinal with really long thinkingtime and extremly fast hardware, the result could be (and I expect that) much closer. But I have no doubt, that Stockfish is still stronger. When a Leela-Ratio near 1.0 is used, only, of course.
But Lc0 has made much progress. Without the nnue-revolution, Stockfish would be clearly weaker and Lc0 would be the world's #1 engine.
I will be curious to see how the same net fares inside Ceres.
Me, too. When somebody builds a working bmi2 (intel CPU)/CUDA 11 (RTX 2060)-binary of Ceres, I will do a testrun very soon.