FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

After the corrections:

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Statistics to short won / draw games:
After round 03 out of 50 (final results) = 2.460 games per engine

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  151 of 02.460 = 6,139% : Fast won/lost games below 60 moves (with mate ended)
   65 of 02.460 = 2,643% : Fast draw games below 40 moves

                                  won59 lost59 draw39        won59w won59b lost59w lost59b
01. Stockfish 110121 NN BMI2 x64     17      0      1            11      6       0       0
02. Dragon by Komodo NN AVX2 x64     14      0      1            12      2       0       0
03. SlowChess 2.5 NN AVX2 x64        11      1      1             6      5       0       1
04. Booot POPCNT 6.4 x64             10      1      4             9      1       0       1
05. Fizbo 2.0 BMI2 x64                9      0      3             6      3       0       0
06. Defenchess 2.3 dev BMI2 x64       9      0      4             6      3       0       0
07. Nemorino 6.04 NN PEXT x64         7      1      1             3      4       0       1
08. Pedone 3.0 NN BMI2 x64            7      1      4             6      1       1       0
09. Ethereal 12.75 PEXT x64           6      0      2             5      1       0       0
10. Wasp 4.50 Modern x64              5      1      6             5      0       0       1
11. Combusken 1.4.0 AMD x64           4      4      4             3      1       2       2
12. RubiChess 1.9 NN BMI2 x64         3      0      8             3      0       0       0
13. Andscacs 0.95.123 x64             3      1      3             2      1       0       1
14. Schooner 2.2 XB SSE x64           3      1      6             1      2       0       1
15. Marvin 5.0.0 NN AVX2 x64          3      2      0             2      1       2       0
16. Laser 1.7 BMI2 x64                3      2      4             0      3       2       0
17. Arasan 22.2 BMI2 x64              3      3      1             2      1       0       3
18. Fritz 17 (Ginkgo) x64             3      4      4             2      1       0       4
19. Seer 1.2.1 NN Skylake x64         3      4      6             3      0       0       4
20. Demolito 2020-12-24 PEXT x64      2      1      0             1      1       0       1
21. Igel 2.9.0 NN BMI2 x64            2      2      1             2      0       1       1
22. rofChade 2.3 BMI2 x64             2      2      2             2      0       0       2
23. Nirvanachess 2.5 POPCNT x64       2      4      2             1      1       1       3
24. chess22k 1.14 JAVA x64            2      5      3             1      1       1       4
25. iCE 4.0 v853 Modern x64           2      5      5             2      0       2       3
26. Critter 1.6a x64                  2      6      4             2      0       4       2
27. Koivisto 4.19 AVX x64             2      8      2             1      1       2       6
28. Winter 0.9 NN BMI2 x64            2     10      2             0      2       4       6
29. Xiphos 0.6 BMI2 x64               1      1      1             1      0       0       1
30. Shredder 13 POPCNT x64            1      1      3             1      0       0       1
31. Texel 1.08a13 BMI2 x64            1      2      2             0      1       0       2
31. Chiron 4 x64                      1      2      2             0      1       1       1
33. Vajolet2 2.8 BMI2 x64             1      4      3             1      0       1       3
34. Halogen 9 NN PEXT x64             1      5      6             1      0       2       3
35. Orion 0.8 NN FMA x64              1      9      1             1      0       3       6
36. Topple 0.8.0 Modern x64           1     10      2             1      0       2       8
37. Hannibal 1.7 x64                  1     10      5             0      1       1       9
38. pirarucu 3.3.5 JAVA x64           1     21      4             1      0       7      14
39. Lc0 0.26.3 NN CPU x64             0      4      6             0      0       2       2
40. GullChess 3.0 Sy BMI2 x64         0      6      4             0      0       3       3
41. Protector 1.9.0 x64               0      7      7             0      0       2       5

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   42 of 02.460 = 1,708% : Fast won/lost games below 50 moves (with mate ended)
   16 of 02.460 = 0,651% : Fast draw games below 30 moves

                                  won49 lost49 draw29        won49w won49b lost49w lost49b
01. Stockfish 110121 NN BMI2 x64      5      0      1             2      3       0       0
02. Defenchess 2.3 dev BMI2 x64       4      0      0             4      0       0       0
03. Andscacs 0.95.123 x64             3      0      1             2      1       0       0
04. SlowChess 2.5 NN AVX2 x64         2      0      0             1      1       0       0
04. Wasp 4.50 Modern x64              2      0      0             2      0       0       0
06. Dragon by Komodo NN AVX2 x64      2      0      1             2      0       0       0
07. Schooner 2.2 XB SSE x64           2      0      2             1      1       0       0
07. Critter 1.6a x64                  2      0      2             2      0       0       0
09. Combusken 1.4.0 AMD x64           2      1      1             2      0       0       1
10. Booot 6.4 POPCNT x64              2      1      3             2      0       0       1
11. Arasan 22.2 BMI2 x64              1      0      0             1      0       0       0
11. Marvin 5.0.0 NN AVX2 x64          1      0      0             1      0       0       0
13. Ethereal 12.75 PEXT x64           1      0      1             1      0       0       0
13. Nemorino 6.04 NN PEXT x64         1      0      1             0      1       0       0
13. Laser 1.7 BMI2 x64                1      0      1             0      1       0       0
13. Pedone 3.0 NN BMI2 x64            1      0      1             0      1       0       0
17. Orion 0.8 NN FMA x64              1      1      0             1      0       0       1
18. Fritz 17 (Ginkgo) x64             1      1      1             1      0       0       1
18. Igel 2.9.0 NN BMI2 x64            1      1      1             1      0       1       0
20. Seer 1.2.1 NN Skylake x64         1      2      0             1      0       0       2
21. Halogen 9 NN PEXT x64             1      2      1             1      0       0       2
21. Nirvanachess 2.5 POPCNT x64       1      2      1             1      0       0       2
21. Vajolet2 2.8 BMI2 x64             1      2      1             1      0       1       1
21. iCE 4.0 v853 Modern x64           1      2      1             1      0       1       1
25. Koivisto 4.19 AVX x64             1      3      1             0      1       0       3
26. Topple 0.8.0 Modern x64           1      5      1             1      0       0       5
27. Chiron 4 x64                      0      0      0             0      0       0       0
27. Shredder 13 POPCNT x64            0      0      0             0      0       0       0
27. Xiphos 0.6 BMI2 x64               0      0      0             0      0       0       0
27. chess22k 1.14 JAVA x64            0      0      0             0      0       0       0
31. Fizbo 2.0 BMI2 x64                0      0      1             0      0       0       0
32. RubiChess 1.9 NN BMI2 x64         0      0      2             0      0       0       0
33. Demolito 2020-12-24 PEXT x64      0      1      0             0      0       0       1
33. rofChade 2.3 BMI2 x64             0      1      0             0      0       0       1
33. Lc0 0.26.3 NN CPU x64             0      1      0             0      0       1       0
36. Hannibal 1.7 x64                  0      1      2             0      0       0       1
36. Protector 1.9.0 x64               0      1      2             0      0       0       1
38. Texel 1.08a13 BMI2 x64            0      2      0             0      0       0       2
39. GullChess 3.0 Sy BMI2 x64         0      3      1             0      0       2       1
40. Winter 0.9 NN BMI2 x64            0      4      0             0      0       2       2
41. pirarucu 3.3.5 JAVA x64           0      5      1             0      0       3       2
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Angle »

Hi, Frank!
I see that Gull 3.0-sy plays quite bad in your tournament as well. It's consistent with my results... :oops: :roll:
Incredibly fast systems miscount incredibly fast.
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by jmartus »

Never thought booot was a aggressive chess engine
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi,

yes, and the big problem with Booot is ...
No analyze-mode!!
Same for the speculative engine Fizbo!

Biggest wishes by myself that Booot and Fizbo will get the analyze-mode!!

Have a look here:
Final short-game-stats from FCP Tourney-2020!

Best
Frank

Always the same ... (means stats will be always the same).
A very good indicator for that what I like to see ...


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Statistics to short won / draw games:
After round 50 out of 50 (final results) = 2.000 games per engine

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2.242 of 41.000 = 5,469% : Fast won/lost games below 60 moves (with mate ended)
1.488 of 41.000 = 3,630% : Fast draw games below 40 moves

                                  won59 lost59 draw39        won59w won59b lost59w lost59b
01. Stockfish 11 BMI2 x64           243      0     71           172     71       0       0
02. Komodo 14.0 BMI2 x64            172      0     83           125     47       0       0
03. Houdini 6.03 Pro x64            164      0     56           110     54       0       0
04. SlowChess BC 2.2 x64            121      3     98            85     36       0       3
05. Booot 6.4 POP x64               115      0    105            88     27       0       0
06. Ethereal 12.25 PEXT x64         115      1     71            79     36       1       0
07. Xiphos 0.6 BMI2 x64             103      3     84            75     28       0       3
08. Fizbo 2.0 BMI2 x64               96     31     66            62     34      10      21
09. Andscacs 0.95 BMI2 x64           90      9     81            54     36       3       6
10. Schooner 2.2 SSE x64             80      5     84            55     25       4       1
11. Defenchess 2.2 POP x64           76      6     85            50     26       0       6
12. Laser 1.7 BMI2 x64               71      2     89            45     26       1       1
13. Fire 7.1 POP x64                 69      5     96            48     21       1       4
14. rofChade 2.3 BMI x64             67     13     70            44     23       3      10
15. Fritz 17 (Ginkgo) x64            65     19     78            38     27       6      13
16. Arasan 22.0 BMI2 x64             44     31     77            31     13      13      18
17. Shredder 13 x64                  43     20     71            29     14       1      19
18. Chiron 4 x64                     43     33     69            29     14       9      24
19. Pedone 2.0 BMI2 x64              43     39     57            26     17      12      27
20. RubiChess 1.7.3 x64              40     19     83            23     17       6      13
21. Wasp 4.00 Modern x64             34     12     81            23     11       3       9
22. Vajolet2 2.8 BMI2 x64            31     26     82            24      7       7      19
23. Critter 1.6a x64                 26     70     64            17      9      28      42
24. Nemorino 5.00 BMI2 x64           25     77     55            21      4      28      49
25. Winter 0.8 x64                   25    129     57            13     12      35      94
26. Texel 1.07 BMI2 x64              24     70     63            19      5      21      49
27. Igel 2.5.0 BMI2 x64              24     80     94            16      8      24      56
28. Demolito 2020-05-14 PEXT x64     22     52     35            17      5      11      41
29. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64           21     52     76            19      2      15      37
30. iCE 4.0 v853 Modern x64          19     84     72            15      4      26      58
31. Fritz 16 (Rybka) x64             18    118     68            11      7      33      85
32. Protector 1.9.0 x64              17     70     77            11      6      22      48
33. Nirvanachess 2.4 POP x64         16     65     87             9      7      20      45
34. Equinox 3.30 x64                 15     93     59            10      5      27      66
35. Rodent IV 0.22 POP x64           11     85     70            10      1      28      57
36. Senpai 2.0 BMI2 x64              11    144     63             6      5      54      90
37. Minic 2.33 x64                   11    155     65             7      4      42     113
38. SmarThink 1.98 AVX2 x64          11    211     49             5      6      65     146
39. Hannibal 1.7 x64                 10     86     59             6      4      29      57
40. Combusken 1.2.0 x64               8    193     54             4      4      60     133
41. Monolith 2 PEXT x64               4    130     72             3      1      56      74

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  654 of 41.000 = 1,596% : Fast won/lost games below 50 moves (with mate ended)
  525 of 41.000 = 1,281% : Fast draw games below 30 moves

                                  won49 lost49 draw29        won49w won49b lost49w lost49b
01. Stockfish 11 BMI2 x64            64      0     30            46     18       0       0
02. Houdini 6.03 Pro x64             52      0     13            37     15       0       0
03. Komodo 14.0 BMI2 x64             50      0     31            35     15       0       0
04. Booot 6.4 POP x64                38      0     26            31      7       0       0
05. SlowChess BC 2.2 x64             32      0     28            23      9       0       0
06. Ethereal 12.25 PEXT x64          32      0     33            25      7       0       0
07. Xiphos 0.6 BMI2 x64              31      0     29            20     11       0       0
08. Fizbo 2.0 BMI2 x64               30      6     14            15     15       1       5
09. Schooner 2.2 SSE x64             25      1     29            17      8       1       0
10. Andscacs 0.95 BMI2 x64           25      3     25            17      8       1       2
11. Defenchess 2.2 POP x64           21      0     33            15      6       0       0
12. Fritz 17 (Ginkgo) x64            21      1     24            14      7       0       1
13. Fire 7.1 POP x64                 20      2     35            14      6       1       1
14. Laser 1.7 BMI2 x64               19      0     41            10      9       0       0
15. rofChade 2.3 BMI x64             19      4     27             9     10       1       3
16. Chiron 4 x64                     15      4     20            12      3       1       3
17. Wasp 4.00 Modern x64             13      4     25            11      2       1       3
18. Critter 1.6a x64                 12     17     22             8      4       6      11
19. Winter 0.8 x64                   12     31     23             6      6       4      25
20. RubiChess 1.7.3 x64              11      0     27            10      1       0       0
21. Pedone 2.0 BMI2 x64              11      7     18             4      7       2       5
22. Shredder 13 x64                   9      5     26             7      2       0       5
23. Arasan 22.0 BMI2 x64              9      6     26             6      3       2       4
24. Nemorino 5.00 BMI2 x64            9     18     18             8      1       8      10
25. Vajolet2 2.8 BMI2 x64             8     10     33             8      0       2       8
26. Texel 1.07 BMI2 x64               7     18     23             6      1       5      13
27. Igel 2.5.0 BMI2 x64               7     30     28             5      2       8      22
28. Protector 1.9.0 x64               6     19     36             4      2       4      15
29. Demolito 2020-05-14 PEXT x64      5     11      8             3      2       3       8
30. Nirvanachess 2.4 POP x64          5     13     29             3      2       1      12
31. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64            5     15     19             5      0       5      10
32. iCE 4.0 v853 Modern x64           5     20     35             4      1       9      11
33. Equinox 3.30 x64                  4     26     27             4      0       9      17
34. SmarThink 1.98 AVX2 x64           4     43     20             1      3      14      29
35. Senpai 2.0 BMI2 x64               4     49     19             3      1      17      32
36. Fritz 16 (Rybka) x64              4     52     21             2      2      15      37
37. Hannibal 1.7 x64                  3     26     22             3      0       7      19
38. Minic 2.33 x64                    3     52     21             2      1      12      40
39. Rodent IV 0.22 POP x64            2     21     29             2      0       4      17
40. Monolith 2 PEXT x64               2     28     34             2      0      10      18
41. Combusken 1.2.0 x64               0    112     23             0      0      39      73
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Angle,

not bad, Gull is playing strong in my FCP Tourney-2021.

GullChess 3.0 standard without syzygy = 3035 Elo (FCP Tourney-2020)
And GullChess 3.0 Sy now = 3075 Elo (not enough games after round 3, but I played 400 test games before the tournament started with the result +35 Elo).

Please note that the Elo average without Houdini and Fire goes 45 Elo points higher (after 13 NN engines and all the other updates from the last half year).

Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

the results from round 4 out of 50 are with delay online!

I am very happy about the move average from Wasp 4.50 = 82,5 (without resign mode after 160 games).
Wasp 4.00 = 88,6 (without resign mode after 2.000 games, FCP Tourney-2020).

A very high draw quote from Wasp 4.5 after 160 games, but for engines in the middle of the field is a higher draw quote absolute normaly.
Place 19 and a great start in round 5 of 50 ...

9x won, 2x lost and ... 10x draw
Place 12 of 41 with 13 of 21.0 points!

Go Wasp go ...
Best Wasp round Wasp ever played is possible with a draw vs. Stockfish and SlowChess in round 5.
And again very great games, John will be happy if Wasp can hold the strong results for the last 20 games in round 5.

Important news:
Klaus Wlotzka is working on a new design for the Excel statistics.
Different things will be changed. This need a while, possible that for the next rounds the Excel statistics are not ready and available!

Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Elo average for the tournament switched from 3080 to 3095 after a new calculation.

Average for FCP Tourney-2020 are 20 Elo to low with 3035 (right is 3055).
The average difference from FCP Toruney-2020 to FCP Tourney-2021 = 40 Elo (not 45).

Should be better ...
Not really important but more perfect is to made here a correction for FCP-Tourney-2021.
I will looking again after 400 of 2.000 games.
Maybe I must make a second correction later +-5 or so ...

Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

results from round 5 & 6 out of 50 are online.

In around 2 weeks the new work by Klaus Wlotzka is ready.
Now Klaus rewrite the Excel statistics.

Tournament is running without any problems, that is very nice for myself (not many work with it).

Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

the Excel files by Klaus Wlotzka are oveworked / rewritten.

Here the five examples, updated continuously on my www.amateurschach.de start page.

https://www.amateurschach.de/t2021/comm ... phic-1.jpg
https://www.amateurschach.de/t2021/comm ... phic-2.jpg
https://www.amateurschach.de/t2021/comm ... phic-3.jpg
https://www.amateurschach.de/t2021/comm ... phic-4.jpg
https://www.amateurschach.de/t2021/comm ... phic-5.jpg

The Excel *.xlsx (without makros) can be found in the *.zip file by Klaus Wlotzka.
Links are available on my start page / and tournament detail page:

Tournament detail page:
http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_fcp-tourney-2021.htm

Direct link:
https://www.amateurschach.de/klaus/fcp- ... lotzka.zip

Have fun with our short engine tournament!

Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

the ranking tool and the complete work by Klaus is just great!
We are sure that engine-engine lovers will have fun with it.

Try it out ...

Best
Frank