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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:51 am

Hi there,

now the results from Round 01-02 out of 50 are online.
1.640 of 41.000 games played = 4%

And it is quite logical ... more material will be come!

:-)

Best
Frank

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Statistics to short won / draw games:
After round 02 out of 50 (final results) = 1.640 games per engine

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  105 of 01.640 = 6,403% : Fast won/lost games below 60 moves (with mate ended)
   41 of 01.640 = 2,500% : Fast draw games below 40 moves

                                  won59 lost59 draw39        won59w won59b lost59w lost59b
01. Sf 2020-12-31_18 NN BMI2 x64     13      0      2             7      6       0       0
02. Booot POPCNT 6.4 x64             10      0      3             9      1       0       0
03. Dragon by Komodo NN AVX2 x64      6      0      0             5      1       0       0
04. Ethereal 12.75 PEXT x64           6      0      1             5      1       0       0
05. Defenchess 2.3 dev BMI2 x64       6      0      3             4      2       0       0
05. Fizbo 2.0 BMI2 x64                6      0      3             5      0       0       0
07. Pedone 3.0 NN BMI2 x64            6      1      1             5      1       1       0
08. Nemorino 6.04 NN PEXT x64         5      1      1             3      2       0       1
09. SlowChess Blitz 2.4 NN x64        3      0      2             1      2       0       0
10. Andscacs 0.95.123 x64             3      1      1             2      1       0       1
10. Xiphos 0.6 BMI2 x64               3      1      1             2      1       0       1
12. Laser 1.7 BMI2 x64                3      1      2             0      3       1       0
13. Schooner 2.2 XB SSE x64           3      1      3             1      2       0       1
14. Wasp 4.50 Modern x64              3      1      5             3      0       0       1
15. Arasan 22.2 BMI2 x64              3      2      1             2      1       0       2
16. Combusken 1.4.0 AMD x64           3      4      2             3      0       2       2
17. Critter 1.6a x64                  3      6      2             3      0       3       3
18. Koivisto 4.19 AVX x64             3      8      2             2      1       2       6
19. RubiChess 1.9 NN BMI2 x64         2      1      4             2      0       1       0
20. Fritz 17 (Ginkgo) x64             2      2      2             2      0       0       2
21. Demolito 2020-12-24 PEXT x64      2      3      0             0      2       1       2
22. Orion 0.8 NN FMA x64              2      5      1             1      1       1       4
23. Lc0 0.26.3 NN CPU x64             1      1      5             1      0       0       1
24. Nirvanachess 2.5 POPCNT x64       1      2      1             1      0       1       1
25. rofChade 2.3 BMI2 x64             1      2      2             1      0       0       2
25. iCE 4.0 v853 Modern x64           1      2      2             1      0       1       1
25. Shredder 13 POPCNT x64            1      2      2             1      0       1       1
28. chess22k 1.14 JAVA x64            1      3      1             0      1       0       3
28. Topple 0.8.0 Modern x64           1      3      1             1      0       1       2
30. Minic 3.02 NaNi Skylake x64       1      5      2             1      0       0       5
30. Winter 0.9 NN BMI2 x64            1      5      2             0      1       2       3
32. Chiron 4 x64                      0      0      0             0      0       0       0
33. Texel 1.08a13 BMI2 x64            0      1      2             0      0       0       1
34. Vajolet2 2.8 BMI2 x64             0      2      0             0      0       0       2
35. Igel 2.9.0 NN BMI2 x64            0      2      1             0      0       1       1
36. Protector 1.9.0 x64               0      3      4             0      0       0       3
36. Halogen 9 NN PEXT x64             0      3      4             0      0       1       2
38. GullChess 3.0 Sy BMI2 x64         0      4      3             0      0       2       2
39. Seer 1.2.1 NN Skylake x64         0      4      4             0      0       0       4
40. Marvin 4.0.1 POPCNT x64           0      9      1             0      0       4       5
41. pirarucu 3.3.5 JAVA x64           0     14      3             0      0       5       9

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   33 of 01.640 = 2,013% : Fast won/lost games below 50 moves (with mate ended)
    9 of 01.640 = 0,549% : Fast draw games below 30 moves

                                  won49 lost49 draw29        won49w won49b lost49w lost49b
01. Sf 2020-12-31_18 NN BMI2 x64      7      0      1             3      4       0       0
02. Defenchess 2.3 dev BMI2 x64       3      0      0             3      0       0       0
03. Andscacs 0.95.123 x64             3      1      1             2      1       0       1
04. Wasp 4.50 Modern x64              2      0      0             2      0       0       0
05. Schooner 2.2 XB SSE x64           2      0      1             1      1       0       0
06. Booot 6.4 POPCNT x64              2      0      2             2      0       0       0
07. Critter 1.6a x64                  2      1      1             2      0       0       1
08. Koivisto 4.19 AVX x64             2      3      1             1      1       0       3
09. Orion 0.8 NN FMA x64              1      0      0             0      1       0       0
09. SlowChess Blitz 2.4 NN x64        1      0      0             0      1       0       0
09. Fritz 17 (Ginkgo) x64             1      0      0             1      0       0       0
12. Laser 1.7 BMI2 x64                1      0      1             0      1       0       0
12. Nemorino 6.04 NN PEXT x64         1      0      1             0      1       0       0
12. Ethereal 12.75 PEXT x64           1      0      1             1      0       0       0
15. Pedone 3.0 NN BMI2 x64            1      1      0             0      1       1       0
15. Combusken 1.4.0 AMD x64           1      1      0             1      0       0       1
15. iCE 4.0 v853 Modern x64           1      1      0             1      0       0       1
15. Topple 0.8.0 Modern x64           1      1      1             1      0       0       1
19. Arasan 22.2 BMI2 x64              0      0      0             0      0       0       0
19. Chiron 4 x64                      0      0      0             0      0       0       0
19. Dragon by Komodo NN AVX2 x64      0      0      0             0      0       0       0
19. Lc0 0.26.3 NN CPU x64             0      0      0             0      0       0       0
19. Minic 3.02 NaNi Skylake x64       0      0      0             0      0       0       0
19. Shredder 13 POPCNT x64            0      0      0             0      0       0       0
19. Vajolet2 2.8 BMI2 x64             0      0      0             0      0       0       0
19. Xiphos 0.6 BMI2 x64               0      0      0             0      0       0       0
19. chess22k 1.14 JAVA x64            0      0      0             0      0       0       0
28. Fizbo 2.0 BMI2 x64                0      0      1             0      0       0       0
28. Protector 1.9.0 x64               0      0      1             0      0       0       0
30. Nirvanachess 2.5 POPCNT x64       0      1      0             0      0       0       1
30. Seer 1.2.1 NN Skylake x64         0      1      0             0      0       0       1
30. Texel 1.08a13 BMI2 x64            0      1      0             0      0       0       1
30. rofChade 2.3 BMI2 x64             0      1      0             0      0       0       1
34. Igel 2.9.0 NN BMI2 x64            0      1      1             0      0       1       0
34. RubiChess 1.9 NN BMI2 x64         0      1      1             0      0       1       0
36. Winter 0.9 NN BMI2 x64            0      2      0             0      0       0       2
36. Demolito 2020-12-24 PEXT x64      0      2      0             0      0       1       1
38. Halogen 9 NN PEXT x64             0      2      1             0      0       0       2
39. GullChess 3.0 Sy BMI2 x64         0      3      1             0      0       2       0
40. Marvin 4.0.1 POPCNT x64           0      4      0             0      0       1       3
41. pirarucu 3.3.5 JAVA x64           0      5      1             0      0       3       2
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Angle » Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:00 pm

Hi, Frank!
U am not sure that Texel 1.08a13 compile that I have is the best. Can you please share the version that plays in your Tournament?
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:27 am

Hi Angle,

I am using the version, can be found on Dropbox by the programmer.

Here my Engine links:
http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_engines.htm

And here my configuration for engines specified on my "Engine links"
http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_configuration.htm

Not a secret or a not available version of a chess program I am using.

Please try out, in one of your nice and next tournaments, the fast GullChess Sy version?!
Much stronger as all the other GullChess 3 versions, link can be also find here.

Texel is for me the: Unpredictable / uncontrollable engine.
Never an other engine can be sure that Texel suprised with a great combination.

A bit speculative, not such a speculative engine like Fizbo ... but speculative and often the games lost after a speculative combination later in endgames. But for looking the style of Texel is very fine. Programmer do a great job with Texel, not a secret also.

:-)

Best
Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Angle » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:33 am

Frank, thank you for the links!

There are two syzygy versions of Gull:
1) Gull 3 syzygy v0.4 by Basil Falcinelli
2) Gull 3.1 JV by J. M. Velasco
Which one do you recommend to test?

Gull is a bit strong for my nearest tournament but I will include it to another tourney which will start next week.
Or may be ... I will add it to the upcoming tourney. Let me think. I guess that Gull strength is close to the last versions of Arasan, Nirvana, and Wasp which are included.
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:41 am

Hi Angle,

Chess2u (fast compile 06/2016)
This version, link can be found in Chess2u forum, means I added the link to Chess2u forum in my overview.

Gull 3.1 JV have problems with Syzygy support after my quick test.

Around 25-30 Elo stronger as the official 3.0 version, tested with FCP-Tourney-2020 (the fast complie 06/2016).

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Frank
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:45 am

https://onedrive.live.com/?id=23E7EAD10 ... D108E292F1
from 14.06.2016 ... this file!

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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Angle » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:52 am

Frank Quisinsky wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:45 am
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=23E7EAD10 ... D108E292F1
from 14.06.2016 ... this file!
Thank you! Downloaded it.
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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Guenther » Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:16 pm

Thanks for the tournament! It came right in time for testing some new to come tools.

Here Minic stranglely could not win from this position and also converted both pawns in the most difficult winning endgame.
Lucky Halogen didn't waste any time anymore since being lost and played all moves since move 54 in 0 seconds.
And later it allowed a 50 moves draw while permanently showing mate scores with K,B.N vs. K.



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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by xr_a_y » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:51 pm

Thanks for reporting.

Promoting to n+b is often seen from minic because KBNvK is declared winning while KQPK or KQBK is just a big material advantage if mate is not found immediately. No worries about that.

But not winning the KBNvK is a real issue of course. Today at CCC minic even draw a KRvK. I am working on the issue currently.

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Re: FCP Tourney-2021, 41.000x 45min. games on i9-10900k, 13xNN, now still running!

Post by Frank Quisinsky » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:53 pm

Hi Guenther,

and is disqualified after Round 03 of 50.
Reason: 3 times loses before mate in Round 03 out of 50.

The same problem I had in FCP Tourney-2020 and reported the bugs more times. 31 time loses after 2.000 games for Minic 2.33.
It' too bad for me if again and again Shredder GUI do nothing and 9 of 10 matches are still running if one of the engines not work correctly without ponder and without resign-mode. Analyzse is empty Shredder 13 GUI give me as last comment before engine do nothing.

All of the stats I must make again for round 1 and round 2.

Minic will replaced with Fritz 16 (Rybka). I don't like Rybka but I have not on other strong engine works correctly for the field. Beef and ChessBrainVB have the same problem Minic have.

Now I can do some other changes:

2. I will replace Stockfish 20201231 with the release version of Stockfish 12.
And here I am using CFish 12 (Stockfish in C-Language).
Some users asked for it.
3. I will replace Slow 2.4 with Slow 2.5
4. I will replace Marvin 4.0.1 with Marvin 5.0.

A lot of games are to replay.

Best
Frank

PS: Maybe the programmer of Minic can fix the bug for the next FCP Tourney, will be start in 6 months.
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