Old code (dedicated comp) vs New code (Stockfish) Tournament

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cpeters
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Re: Old code (dedicated comp) vs New code (Stockfish) Tournament

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Tasc Match:

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Rank Name                      Elo  	games score oppo. draws 
   1 Stockfish 12 m68k@45MHz  2867      42   99%  2350    2% 	41.5 / 42
   2 Tasc R30 The King 2.5    2350      42    1%  2867    2%	 0.5 / 42
l0l/mmmh

Timecontrol: 40 moves in 40 minutes repeating.
Tasc R 30 2.5: all default
Stockfish m68k: ponder, nnue, hash: 8mb, book: 16 ply/50kb insize.
pgn:


Nice imbalances of material in general. Ponderfish always gives pawns for some (concrete) chances. Very entertaining! I like the Genius' style more than the Tasc's.
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Re: Old code (dedicated comp) vs New code (Stockfish) Tournament

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1 Stockfish 12 m68k@45MHz  2867      42   99%  2350    2% 	41.5 / 42
I fucked up/didn't update the ini-file for polyglot (EngineName bogus but EngineDir+Cmd points to the new version) on the remote machinery, but as one can see in the log, Version 13 gets executed and plays rightfully so.
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Re: Old code (dedicated comp) vs New code (Stockfish) Tournament

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cpeters wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:12 pm Yes, I know about the elo of tasc - that's why it's in the match-list.

But what about 1 kN/s? When? Where? Stockfish 13 makes ≈ 300 N/s during middlegame here now. What does it mean? In "elo"? In relation to the Tasqué R30 V 2.2? Emulated!

I do want to find it out.

Computerchess is a (on/off) hobby for me. The lockdown is to blame...

NB
1% speed
So. Question for you: What is given when you do "bench" in stockfish 13 (just default options here) from your skynetmachine/Ryzen/EPYC if any? Hint: cpulimiting for the 45 MHz-version here will come around ≈ 500 N/s (It will take an hour).

greetings
Wonderful Tasc R30.. with Jonathan The Konig's the King engine together with Ed Shroeder's Gideon engine for Chess Machine ...I was selling them in 1990, too :)
Thank you again Cristian for the help, I'm enjoying Cutechess on Ubuntu ARM64 under Parallels Desktop M1 a lot, and CPU temperature is low (59° Celsius, instead of 70°Arena on Windoz and 80°of BanksiaGui native on mac M1)
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You can find almost all emulated 80-90's electronic chessboards here:

Nearly all older chess computers (Mephisto, Saitek, Genius etc, for more than 300 chess computers) were emulated for PC based on the M.E.S.S. emulator (see Wikipedia), in a project of Franz Huber in the years 2009-2020. Beautiful and usually fully functional! Even humans can win a game
against those older computers.
Access to the projects can be found on this homepage: https://fhub.jimdofree.com/
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Re: Old code (dedicated comp) vs New code (Stockfish) Tournament

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Hey Alex!

Yes I do know of Franz' marvellous project - but it is all Windows. (talkchess user) Scally is very active in succeeding to bring emulation to the Pi:
https://github.com/ScallyBag/MAME-4-PicoChess
and
https://groups.google.com/g/picochess/c ... Scw4?pli=1

So, it's almost completely done! Myriads of dedicated machines no sane human has the time to play against in a lifetime.

For Linux some of these things work through mame with cutechess/xboard etc. though.
Poof! Like magic! Like a dmca takedown:

https://www.dmca.com/App_Themes/DMCA/im ... downs.webp

:-)

I'm amazed!