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Why we still need polyglot.ini ?

Post by mcostalba » Sat May 31, 2014 12:27 pm

I am thinking to removing PolyGlot.ini file

As far as you know, what GUI would be broken by this change ?

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Re: Why we still need polyglot.ini ?

Post by ZirconiumX » Sat May 31, 2014 2:02 pm

mcostalba wrote:I am thinking to removing PolyGlot.ini file

As far as you know, what GUI would be broken by this change ?
I believe eboard is still CECP only. It's webpage looks that way.

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Re: Why we still need polyglot.ini ?

Post by mcostalba » Sat May 31, 2014 4:58 pm

ZirconiumX wrote: I believe eboard is still CECP only. It's webpage looks that way.
I checked the site:

The latest version is: 1.1.1 (Feb 22nd, 2008)

For me it means it is unmantained, so I am going to remove the poliglot file.

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Re: Why we still need polyglot.ini ?

Post by hgm » Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:23 am

Strange reasoning. If it was maintained, it could add UCI support. When it isn't, its users will surely remain dependenton polyglot.

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Re: Why we still need polyglot.ini ?

Post by ZirconiumX » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:40 am

hgm wrote:Strange reasoning. If it was maintained, it could add UCI support. When it isn't, its users will surely remain dependenton polyglot.

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polyglot -noini -ec ./stockfish -ed .
should be all they need for that. They don't need polyglot.ini to run.

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Re: Why we still need polyglot.ini ?

Post by lucasart » Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:03 am

hgm wrote:Strange reasoning. If it was maintained, it could add UCI support. When it isn't, its users will surely remain dependenton polyglot.
I don't understand your point. What do you mean by "add UCI support" ? Stockfish and all modern GUI support UCI. I don't see how polyglot.ini helps here.

Do you mean to say that it allows to use Stockfish in legacy CECP only capable GUI ? Like Xboard ? Even here your argument makes no sense. I don't see how a CECP only GUI could run Stockfish without polyglot, but with only a polyglot.ini file.
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Re: Why we still need polyglot.ini ?

Post by hgm » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:10 pm

We were specifically talking about eboard.

I think Polyglot can be found in almost all standard repositories. Linux users that are not computer savvy might not know how to use it for running Stockfish, however. Unfortunately the Linux install process of packages for engines is not such that it automatically configures installed GUIs to use those engines. Users that are not computer savvy might have problems running Stockfish as WB engine, although in principle this is extremely simple as one of the posters pointed out. But only when you know it.

Some UCI engines include polyglot.ini files as a service to their users, to make life simpler for their users that want to run them on CECP-only GUIs. Whether that is a good idea or not depends a lot on whether you want to please users, or whether you release the engine just to please GUI developers.

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Re: Why we still need polyglot.ini ?

Post by Peter Skinner » Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:14 pm

I use Polyglot with Winboard to run engines.

Rarely do I use anything else. When I do it's the Hiarcs interface.

I haven't touched Arena since my run in with that team several years ago. It could possibly be the best, most advanced interface on the planet, but I'd never use it again.

Even now, if you state anything that even resembles negative feedback, their "team" lynch you.

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