Strongest Fruit - what's the verdict?
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Strongest Fruit - what's the verdict?
Can somebody tell me which of the many Fruit versions is proven to be the strongest?
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Re: Strongest Fruit - what's the verdict?
Right now there are many versions out that are very close in play level. A new release that is clearly better than the others is not far off though.
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What was the point of releasing many versions that are very close in playing level? Apart from generating still unanswered questions as to which is the strongest, overloading testers' schedules, crowding the ratings lists, and so on.Right now there are many versions out that are very close in play level.
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Re: Strongest Fruit - what's the verdict?
to get them tested?What was the point of releasing many versions
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I did not release all of the versions. The ones I did release was to give people more options. I don't consider best engine vs. engine play to always mean most fun. Also there are Toga's that are close in play level and I have nothing to do that them. Notice that there are more Toga versions than Fruit versions on the ratings lists. For me it does not matter, if people want a better version it does not hurt me to give it out, otherwise it does no harm to me to let it collect dust. I never forced anyone to use or test Fruit so over crowding the ratings lists is not my problem.
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Re: Strongest Fruit - what's the verdict?
Good PointRyan Benitez wrote:I did not release all of the versions. The ones I did release was to give people more options. I don't consider best engine vs. engine play to always mean most fun. Also there are Toga's that are close in play level and I have nothing to do that them. Notice that there are more Toga versions than Fruit versions on the ratings lists. For me it does not matter, if people want a better version it does not hurt me to give it out, otherwise it does no harm to me to let it collect dust. I never forced anyone to use or test Fruit so over crowding the ratings lists is not my problem.
Yes, Computer chess members always want more versions! only few don't I guess.
By the way how's chess64 work going?
Regards.
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By my tests it's Fruit 05/11/03 HD1-2 UCIEraserheads wrote:Can somebody tell me which of the many Fruit versions is proven to be the strongest?
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Change Place Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws
in Places
0 1 Fruit 05/11/03 HD1-2 UCI : 2839 36 35 204 57.4 % 2787 45.1 %
0 2 Toga II 1.3x4 BH UCI : 2815 29 29 305 53.9 % 2788 46.2 %
0 3 Toga II 1.2.1 BH UCI : 2809 22 22 514 56.3 % 2765 46.1 %
0 4 Fruit 2.3 UCI : 2805 39 39 180 52.8 % 2786 41.1 %
0 5 Spike 1.2 Turin : 2799 25 25 440 55.6 % 2760 41.1 %
0 6 Strelka 1.8 UCI : 2793 40 39 190 53.2 % 2771 36.8 %
+1 7 Rybka 1.0 Beta UCI : 2772 23 23 567 53.2 % 2750 34.4 %
-1 8 Toga II 1.2 BH UCI : 2771 23 23 503 51.7 % 2759 43.3 %
0 9 Gambit Fruit 1.0 Beta 4b UCI : 2758 22 22 579 51.5 % 2747 38.7 %
0 10 Toga II 1.0 UCI : 2740 22 22 612 51.2 % 2731 35.1 %
+1 11 Fruit 2.1 UCI : 2722 23 23 543 49.8 % 2724 40.7 %
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Thanks Igor, this is interesting! I'm playing 2.3.1 at the moment vs
Rybka 2.3.2a in some 720' games and fruit has won 1 and drawn 2!
However the options screen is too tall, does anyone know how to make
the whole thing appear properly? (this is under XP)
Andrew
Rybka 2.3.2a in some 720' games and fruit has won 1 and drawn 2!
However the options screen is too tall, does anyone know how to make
the whole thing appear properly? (this is under XP)
Andrew
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Re: Strongest Fruit - what's the verdict?
Hello Andrew that depends a little on what interface, GUI you are using I think. As far as I know ChessPartner is the only one with a scroll down menu for the UCI options and I have seen no problems there. The new Shredder interface has three columns I was told by Stefan, but now that Shredder 11 is delayed a bit, maybe Stefan could take a look whether that is still enough and whether a scroll down menu would maybe be possible? I hope maybe Stefan Meyer-Kahlen reads here...Andrew wrote:Thanks Igor, this is interesting! I'm playing 2.3.1 at the moment vs
Rybka 2.3.2a in some 720' games and fruit has won 1 and drawn 2!
However the options screen is too tall, does anyone know how to make
the whole thing appear properly? (this is under XP)
Andrew
By the way I can't quite figure out what is Fruit 05/11/03 HD 1-2 exactly for version? Does it have to do with History Depths?
Regards, Eelco
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It's Fruit 05/11/03 with "History Depth 1" set to 2 (default=1)Eelco de Groot wrote: By the way I can't quite figure out what is Fruit 05/11/03 HD 1-2 exactly for version? Does it have to do with History Depths?
Regards, Eelco
Regards,
Igor