My first 'quick and dirty' test with Naum 4.
Game in 10 minutes each engine.
Gui: Fritz 10
Ponder : Off
Naum4 Opening book: Perfect 14
All engines: Own book. (Toga with Deep Fritz 10 book)
Computer: Quad 6700.
Naum4(x4)-1 2008
Naum 4(x4) - Rybka 3 32-bit (x4) 13.5 - 6.5 +8/-1/=11 67.50%
Naum 4(x4) - Deep Fritz 10 18.5 - 1.5 +17/-0/=3 92.50%
Naum 4(x4) - Deep Hiarcs 12 15.5 - 4.5 +11/-0/=9 77.50%
Naum 4(x4) - Toga II 1.4.1SE6 (x4) 17.0 - 3.0 +15/-1/=4 85.00%
Naum 4(x4) - Zappa Mexico (x4) 15.5 - 4.5 +12/-1/=7 77.50%
No comment. How I have enjoyed the wonderful performance of Naum4 (x4) with Perfect 14!
63 wins + 34 draws + 3 losses. (80% and only 3 losses in 100 games (!!) against such powerful rivals, including Rybka 3.)
I don't know if I have done something wrong (probably) in my test, but I have seen directly about one third of the games and I feel Naum 4 (+ Perfect14) really impressive. Rybka was totally unable to keep Naum 4(x4) strength.
Simply amazing!. I am going to repeat same test with 25 minutes/game.
Regards from Barcelona.
Tom.
(In the mid game Naum NPS average (roughly): 3.600.000, Deep Fritz 10: 7.500.000 and Rybka: 160.000)
Naum4(x4) + Perfect14: 100 games. Impressive performance!
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Re: Naum4(x4) + Perfect14: 100 games. Impressive performance
Can you post the games?
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Re: Naum4(x4) + Perfect14: 100 games. Impressive performance
•1)Can you post all the games, or even better to provide a PGN for download?Tomcass wrote:My first 'quick and dirty' test with Naum 4.
Naum 4(x4) - Rybka 3 32-bit (x4) 13.5 - 6.5 +8/-1/=11 67.50%
Naum 4(x4) - Deep Fritz 10 18.5 - 1.5 +17/-0/=3 92.50%
Naum 4(x4) - Deep Hiarcs 12 15.5 - 4.5 +11/-0/=9 77.50%
Naum 4(x4) - Toga II 1.4.1SE6 (x4) 17.0 - 3.0 +15/-1/=4 85.00%
Naum 4(x4) - Zappa Mexico (x4) 15.5 - 4.5 +12/-1/=7 77.50%
•2)Had Deep Hiarcs 12 and Deep Fritz 10 used 4 cores(CPUs) or one?
•3)Was Naum 4 64 bit or 32 bit?
•4)Perhaps i'm wrong but i would bet that something in your configuration/settings was wrong so that is the reason for the very lopsided results.
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Re: Naum4(x4) + Perfect14: 100 games. Impressive performance
1.- With pleasure... but I have no idea of how to do it. Any help please?. (Is it ok for the admin that I post 100 games?. Lots of space for 10 min games).
2.- Yes. Both playing with 4 CPUs.
3.- All programmes 32 bits.
4.- So I think. I will try to discover why.
Thanks for your interest.
Tom.
... by the way, I am testing again the same engines at 25 min. game and all engines with Perfect 14 books. Only 3 games played ... but:
Naum4(x4)-2 2008
Naum 4(x4) - Deep Fritz 10 1.0 - 0.0 +1/-0/=0 100.00%
Naum 4(x4) - Deep Hiarcs 12 0.5 - 0.5 +0/-0/=1 50.00%
Naum 4(x4) - Rybka 3 32-bit (x4) 1.0 - 0.0 +1/-0/=0 100.00%
Naum 4(x4) - Toga II 1.4.1SE6 0.0 - 0.0 +0/-0/=0 0.00%
Naum 4(x4) - Zappa Mexico II 0.0 - 0.0 +0/-0/=0 0.00%
Similar start than in the previous test!.
2.- Yes. Both playing with 4 CPUs.
3.- All programmes 32 bits.
4.- So I think. I will try to discover why.
Thanks for your interest.
Tom.
... by the way, I am testing again the same engines at 25 min. game and all engines with Perfect 14 books. Only 3 games played ... but:
Naum4(x4)-2 2008
Naum 4(x4) - Deep Fritz 10 1.0 - 0.0 +1/-0/=0 100.00%
Naum 4(x4) - Deep Hiarcs 12 0.5 - 0.5 +0/-0/=1 50.00%
Naum 4(x4) - Rybka 3 32-bit (x4) 1.0 - 0.0 +1/-0/=0 100.00%
Naum 4(x4) - Toga II 1.4.1SE6 0.0 - 0.0 +0/-0/=0 0.00%
Naum 4(x4) - Zappa Mexico II 0.0 - 0.0 +0/-0/=0 0.00%
Similar start than in the previous test!.
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Re: Naum4(x4) + Perfect14: 100 games. Impressive performance
Perfect 14 book is made from Rybka3 wins in comp-comp games. No wonder with high scores. Use Perfect 15 and get still better scores!
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Re: Naum4(x4) + Perfect14: 100 games. Impressive performance
Hello Jouni,Jouni wrote:Perfect 14 book is made from Rybka3 wins in comp-comp games.
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No...The Perfect 14 book is made not only from Rybka 3 wins,the book also includes many games played by Zappa,Naum,Hiarcs...
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Re: Naum4(x4) + Perfect14: 100 games. Impressive performance
Is Perfect 15 a better book than Perfect 14?Sedat Canbaz wrote:Hello Jouni,Jouni wrote:Perfect 14 book is made from Rybka3 wins in comp-comp games.
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No...The Perfect 14 book is made not only from Rybka 3 wins,the book also includes many games played by Zappa,Naum,Hiarcs...
Also does Perfect 14 contains any good lines that are not on Perfect 15? Or Perfect 15 contains all good lines of Perfect 14 and much more?
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Re: Naum4(x4) + Perfect14: 100 games. Impressive performance
Is Perfect 15 a better book than Perfect 14?
Perfect 15 is improved about 50 Elo points stronger than Perfect 14 book
Or Perfect 15 contains all good lines of Perfect 14 and much more?
Yes,the Perfect 15 book contains much more newer and stronger lines
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Perfect 15 is improved about 50 Elo points stronger than Perfect 14 book
Or Perfect 15 contains all good lines of Perfect 14 and much more?
Yes,the Perfect 15 book contains much more newer and stronger lines
Best Regards,
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Re: Naum4(x4) + Perfect14: 100 games. Impressive performance
Thanks Sedat,keep up the good workSedat Canbaz wrote:Is Perfect 15 a better book than Perfect 14?
Perfect 15 is improved about 50 Elo points stronger than Perfect 14 book
Or Perfect 15 contains all good lines of Perfect 14 and much more?
Yes,the Perfect 15 book contains much more newer and stronger lines
Best Regards,
Sedat Canbaz
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Re: Naum4(x4) + Perfect14: 100 games. Impressive performance
Hello Dr.Wael,
BIG thanks for your interest,my dear friend !
As you know currently i am running only book tournaments and working on Rybka3 Benchmarks
About Perfect 16th edition...right now i am in fear of releasing newer book,as you know, exactly the same attacking guy will be born again
By the way,i will be very glad to test your book in SCCT IV book tournament,of course if you have any newer ctg book version ?!
I wish you all the best,
Sedat
BIG thanks for your interest,my dear friend !
As you know currently i am running only book tournaments and working on Rybka3 Benchmarks
About Perfect 16th edition...right now i am in fear of releasing newer book,as you know, exactly the same attacking guy will be born again
By the way,i will be very glad to test your book in SCCT IV book tournament,of course if you have any newer ctg book version ?!
I wish you all the best,
Sedat