Common sense returns to CCRL

[Sean Evans]

CCRL now tests "controversial" engines including Rybka 4 64 bit and Houdini 1.5a 64-bit

http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.l ... ons_only=1

If so, that will be the end of Houdini playing in any further tourneys, the lid is being shut on Houdini, with no escape

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[Graham Banks]

Sad day for chess when Graham and CCRL go to the other side.

You all know very well my personal views regarding Houdini. They haven't changed.

[yanquis1972]

Sad day for chess when Graham and CCRL go to the other side.

You all know very well my personal views regarding Houdini. They haven't changed.

lol you can't win graham.

btw, "the other side"..

[yanquis1972]

CCRL now tests "controversial" engines including Rybka 4 64 bit and Houdini 1.5a 64-bit

http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.l ... ons_only=1

i'm glad houdini is being tested...not sure why we need the 'controversial' label. that seems awfully subjective compared to the others. if a site wants to pride itself on being objective i'd suggest at very most nothing more than an addendum somewhere. labeling like this is a bit silly.

[Tom Barrister]

How do you prove that a closed-source engine does or does not violate the rules, unless the author releases the source?

Also, how can you prove an open-source engine does or does not violate the rules by being a clone/whatever of a closed-source engine, unless the author of the closed-source engine reveals the source?

[gerold]

Sad day for chess when Graham and CCRL go to the other side.

You all know very well my personal views regarding Houdini. They haven't changed.

lol you can't win graham.

btw, "the other side"..

Just kidding about the " Going to the other side". Those were the words
Graham used on someone on the other side before. LOL.

Of course Graham can win. He can start his own testing lab.

[De Vos W]

Sad day for chess when Graham and CCRL go to the other side.

You all know very well my personal views regarding Houdini. They haven't changed.

oh yeah? Right.... but Houdini is in CCRL ... and the other side is not so bad Welcome Graham and don't cut yourself with the razor....

With kind regards buddy,

DE VOS W.

[Cubeman]

I think it is good that CCRL now tests unique engines.It is for the good of CCRL that it does and so therefore for the general population.Don't get caught up in the political aspects of certain engines, one day a squeaky clean engine will come along and be #1 and you will gladly test it.But in the mean time you still have to keep testers and the computer chess enthusiasts on board.

[Kaj Soderberg]

Hi Gerold,

a rating list have to test engines.
Main order for an engine is to play chess and not which political reasons are in background.

Best
Frank

Possible theft is something different than "political reasons".
For the rest i agree with the purpose of a rating list.

Best regards,
Kaj

[Kaj Soderberg]

I think it is good that CCRL now tests unique engines.It is for the good of CCRL that it does and so therefore for the general population.Don't get caught up in the political aspects of certain engines, one day a squeaky clean engine will come along and be #1 and you will gladly test it.But in the mean time you still have to keep testers and the computer chess enthusiasts on board.

It amazes me, not pointing at any individual, how easily people are prepared to let common decency and civilization go, for a short moment of possessing something known as the best or so. Some new top chess programmers, who came out of the blue, put hard working original authors out of business.
We are on the highway back to medieval savagery.

Best regards,
Kaj