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Re: Houdini Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess

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Event "Sochi"]
[Site "Sochi"]
[Date "1964.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Boris Spassky"]
[Black "Maximilian Ujtelky"]
[ECO "B06"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "49"]

1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. Nc3 a6 4. Nf3 d6 5. Bc4 e6 6. Bg5 Ne7
7. a4 h6 8. Be3 b6 9. O-O Nd7 10. Re1 O-O 11. Qd2 Kh7 12. Rad1
Bb7 13. Qe2 Qc8 14. Bf4 Rd8 15. h4 Nf8 16. Bb3 f6 17. Nb1 e5
18. Bc1 Ne6 19. c3 Rf8 20. Na3 f5 21. dxe5 dxe5 22. Nxe5 Bxe5
23. exf5 Rxf5 24. Bc2 Rh5 25. Qxh5 1-0


[Event "Sousse Interzonal,"]
[Site "Sousse (Tunisia)"]
[Date "1967.10.25"]
[EventDate "1967.??.??"]
[Round "8"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Laszlo Barczay"]
[Black "Borislav Ivkov"]
[ECO "B06"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "42"]

1.e4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nf3 d6 4.Bc4 a6 5.O-O e6 6.Bg5 Ne7 7.Qd2 h6
8.Be3 Nd7 9.Nc3 b6 10.Rfe1 Bb7 11.a4 Nf6 12.e5 Nfd5 13.Bf4
Nxc3 14.Qxc3 O-O 15.exd6 cxd6 16.Qa3 Nf5 17.c3 Bxf3 18.gxf3 e5
19.Bg3 h5 20.dxe5 dxe5 21.Kh1 Qg5 0-1



The Main (A.R.B.C.S) Opening line...
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Nf3 h6 4. Nc3 a6 5. Bd3 g6 6. O-O b6 7. Be3 Bg7
8. Qd2 Bb7 9. d5 e5


Anthony.R.Brown – 30/07/2013
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Re: Houdini Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess

Post by jefk »

well done, interesting game
but its not clear to me how fast the comp was, and
on how many threads, and which Houdini version.

Against Komodo 5 with 4 threads on a fast comp you
would have a hard time i guess, no matter what type of 'hedgehog'
system or 'beginners'game you would be using :)

(socalled 'beginners game' opening system:
http://www.beginnersgame.com/TheBeginner'sGame.pdf

and about the hedgehog:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Hedg ... 0979148219

jef

PS what's your rating ? if you would be that good against
comps in slow games you could get a high standard rating
on servers such as Fics or Icc (but it wont be as easy
as you are suggesting, not even for you i predict)


[quote="Anthony.R.Brown"][Event "The A.R.B Chess System-Game 01-Analysis Deeper"]
[Date "2013.07.27"]
[Origin "Great Britain"]
[White "Houdini.Chess Program"]
[White-Elo "3000+"]
[Black "Anthony.R.Brown"]
[Black-Elo "?"]
[Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
[Time "60 Seconds Each Per Move"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 {last book move} 3.
Nf3 h6 {Prevents intrusion on g5} 4. Nc3 a6 {Secures b5} 5. Bd3 g6 6. O-O b6 7.
Be3 Bg7 8. Qd2 Bb7 9. d5 {White gets more space} e5 10. a4 Ne7 {
Black should quickly conclude development.} 11. Ne1 g5 12. Bc4 f5 {
Attacks the pawn chain} 13. f3 f4 {Black gains space} 14. Bf2 Ng6 15. Qe2 h5
16. a5 Ke7 17. axb6 cxb6 18. Nd3 b5 19. Bb3 Qc8 {Black plans g4} 20. Rad1 g4
21. Kh1 Bf6 22. Rg1 Nd7 23. Rgf1 Qg8 24. Nb4 Kf7 25. Nc6 {
White can be proud of that piece} Nh4 26. Rg1 Re8 27. Qe1 Qg5 28. Nb1 Reg8 {
Black intends g3} 29. c4 $4 {weakening the position} (29. Ba2 $142 $14 {
would allow White to play on}) 29... g3 $17 30. hxg3 fxg3 31. Be3 Qg4 32. Rf1 (
32. fxg4 $4 {materialistic play, which will be punished} hxg4 33. Qxg3 Nf5+ 34.
Qh3 Nxe3 $19 (34... Rxh3+ 35. gxh3 Nxe3 36. Rde1 $16)) 32... Nxf3 33. Rxf3 h4
34. Bf2 h3 (34... gxf2 $6 {is the less attractive alternative} 35. Qxf2 (35.
Rxf2 $4 h3 36. g3 Qxg3 37. Rxf6+ Nxf6 38. Qxg3 Rxg3 $19) 35... Ke8 36. Nc3 $11)
35. Rxg3 hxg2+ 36. Kxg2 Qh3+ 37. Kf3 Rxg3+ 38. Bxg3 Nc5 39. Qh1 Qxh1+ (39...
Nxb3 $6 {is clearly worse} 40. Qxh3 Rxh3 41. Kg2 $11) 40. Rxh1 Rxh1 41. Bc2
Bxc6 42. dxc6 b4 43. c7 Rh8 44. Nd2 Rc8 45. Nb3 Rxc7 46. Ke2 (46. Nxc5 {
cannot change what is in store for ?} dxc5 (46... Rxc5 $6 47. Be1 $19) 47. Bf2
Ke6 $19) 46... Na4 47. Na5 Nxb2 48. Be1 Nxc4 (48... Ke6 {
and Black can already relax} 49. Bxb4 Rh7 50. Kd2 $19) 49. Nxc4 (49. Bb3 d5 50.
Bxb4 $19) 49... Rxc4 $17 50. Bd3 $4 {White falls apart} (50. Bb3 d5 51. Bxc4
dxc4 52. Bxb4 $19) 50... Rd4 $19 51. Bf2 (51. Bd2 {
doesn't change the outcome of the game} b3 $19) 51... Rxd3 52. Kxd3 Bd8 53. Kc4
a5 54. Ba7 Bc7 55. Be3 Kg6 56. Kd5 (56. Bc1 $19 {hoping against hope}) 56... b3
57. Bc1 a4 58. Kc4 (58. Ba3 {does not save the day} Bb6 59. Kc4 Bc5 60. Bb2 Bd4
61. Kb4 Bxb2 62. Kxa4 Kg5 63. Kxb3 Bd4 64. Kc4 Kf4 65. Kd3 Kf3 66. Kc2 Kxe4 67.
Kd2 Kf3 68. Kc2 e4 69. Kb3 e3 70. Kb4 Ke4 71. Kb5 Kd5 72. Kb4 e2 73. Kb3 e1=Q
74. Kc2 Bc3 75. Kb3 Qa1 76. Kc2 Qb2+ 77. Kd1 Qd2#) 58... Bb6 59. Kb4 Be3 $1 {
it's best to give back material} 60. Bb2 (60. Bxe3 {Deflection from b2} b2)
60... Bd4 61. Ka3 Bxb2+ 62. Kxa4 Kg5 63. Kxb3 Bd4 64. Kc4 (64. Kc2 {
doesn't change anything anymore} Kf4 65. Kd3 Ba1 66. Ke2 Kxe4 67. Kd2 d5 68.
Kc2 d4 69. Kd2 Bc3+ 70. Ke2 d3+ 71. Kd1 Kd4 72. Kc1 e4 73. Kb1 e3 74. Ka2 Kc4
75. Ka3 e2 76. Ka2 e1=Q 77. Ka3 Qa1#) 64... Kf4 65. Kd3 Ba1 66. Ke2 Kxe4 67.
Kd2 d5 68. Kc2 d4 69. Kb1 (69. Kd1 {is not much help} Bc3 70. Ke2 d3+ 71. Kd1
Kd4 72. Kc1 e4 73. Kd1 e3 74. Kc1 e2 75. Kb1 e1=Q+ 76. Ka2 Kc4 77. Ka3 Qa1#)
69... d3 70. Kc1 Ke3 71. Kd1 e4 (71... d2 $142 $19 {might be the shorter path})
72. Ke1 Kf3 73. Kd1 e3 74. Kc1 Kf2 75. Kb1 e2 76. Kxa1 d2 (76... e1=Q+ 77. Kb2
Qb4+ 78. Ka1 d2 79. Ka2 d1=N 80. Ka1 Qb2#) 77. Kb2 d1=Q 78. Kc3 e1=Q+ 79. Kc4
Qe4+ 80. Kc5 (80. Kb5 {is no salvation} Qb3+ 81. Ka5 Qa8#) 80... Qda4 81. Kb6
Qec6# 0-1[/quote]
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Re: Houdini Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess

Post by AdminX »

Nice Game. I really enjoyed 29. ... Qg4. I did not understand white's 50th move Bd3, it seemed like a blunder. I watch the vid, did not replay on PC yet.
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Re: Houdini Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess

Post by Father »

Well done Anthony. Congratulations.
Best regards,
Pablo
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: Houdini Chess Program Crushed!! - Using The A.R.B Chess

Post by Anthony.R.Brown »

Thank's Pablo...

First Congrat's I have had! :wink:
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Anthony.R.Brown. Great minds thinks alike"

Post by Father »

August 4th, 2013

Anthony.

I am sure, my congrats wont be the last congrats you will have playiing against computers.

Your work playing computers represent a great work and constancy. Your games looks very logical, I am sure you have a very good memory and experience.

Computers have no control over their emotions, but you are in control of your own imagination.

"Great minds thinks alike" and constancy many times can win the great minds and the great computers.

Thank you for your games, they are real leassons of chess.

Well done.

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
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Re: Anthony.R.Brown. Great minds thinks alike"

Post by Anthony.R.Brown »

Cool Pablo 8-)

Look out for the Next Game!


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Re: Anthony.R.Brown. Great minds thinks alike"

Post by jefk »

well its no big deal crushing a comp,and i did it -personally
no comp assistance- just like Anthony, not with a time forfeit
like Pablo's trick, but in a real game, on Fics, against a
Crafty (22.7) on 1 cpu;
here's the game
LuigiBot (C) vs. jefk --- Tue Aug 6, 10:49 PDT 2013
Rated standard match, initial time: 15 minutes, increment: 0 seconds.

Move LuigiBot jefk
---- ---------------- ----------------
1. e4 (0:00) d6 (0:00)
2. d4 (0:00) g6 (0:06)
3. Nc3 (0:00) a6 (0:09)
4. a4 (0:00) Bg7 (0:13)
5. h3 (0:00) b6 (0:10)
6. Nf3 (0:00) Bb7 (0:01)
7. Be3 (0:00) e6 (0:01)
8. Bc4 (0:00) Ne7 (0:07)
9. O-O (0:00) O-O (0:03)
10. a5 (0:00) b5 (0:05)
11. Bb3 (0:00) Nd7 (0:05)
12. Qd3 (0:00) b4 (0:04)
13. Ne2 (0:00) e5 (0:22)
14. d5 (0:00) Rc8 (0:02)
15. Bc4 (0:00) Nc5 (0:10)
16. Bxc5 (0:00) dxc5 (0:02)
17. Bxa6 (0:00) Bxa6 (0:09)
18. Qxa6 (0:00) c6 (0:05)
19. c4 (0:00) Ra8 (0:26)
20. Qb6 (0:01) Qxb6 (0:14)
21. axb6 (0:00) Rab8 (0:02)
22. d6 (0:00) Nc8 (0:07)
23. d7 (0:00) Nxb6 (0:02)
24. Rfd1 (0:00) Rfd8 (0:02)
25. Ra7 (0:00) f6 (0:17)
26. b3 (0:00) Kf8 (0:03)
27. Kh2 (0:00) Ke7 (0:03)
28. Ng3 (0:00) Nxd7 (0:07)
29. Nh4 (0:00) Kf8 (0:12)
30. Raxd7 (0:00) Rxd7 (0:08)
31. Rxd7 (0:00) Ra8 (0:04)
32. Nf3 (0:00) Ra3 (0:02)
33. Nd2 (0:00) Ra2 (0:02)
34. Ne2 (0:00) Bh6 (0:07)
35. Rd8+ (0:00) Ke7 (0:03)
36. Rh8 (0:00) Rxd2 (0:12)
37. Rxh7+ (0:00) Ke6 (0:08)
38. Rxh6 (0:00) Rxe2 (0:01)
39. Rxg6 (0:00) Rxe4 (0:02)
40. Rg7 (0:00) Re2 (0:03)
41. Kg3 (0:00) Rb2 (0:02)
42. Kf3 (0:00) Rxb3+ (0:01)
43. Ke2 (0:01) Rc3 (0:01)
44. Rg4 (0:00) b3 (0:02)
45. h4 (0:00) b2 (0:01)
46. Kd2 (0:00) Rc1 (0:04)
47. Ke3 (0:00) b1=Q (0:05)
48. h5 (0:00) Qb3+ (0:08)
49. Ke2 (0:00) Rc2+ (0:05)
50. Kf1 (0:00) Qb1# (0:01)
{White checkmated} 0-1

oh and btw, the defense used was a simple
'beginner's defense, in no way resembling
any ARB system whatsover.
:)

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Re: Anthony.R.Brown. Great minds thinks alike"

Post by Father »

Good game. Well done Jefk. !! :D
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: Anthony.R.Brown. Great minds thinks alike"

Post by Anthony.R.Brown »

Yes Nice Game Jefk...

There is a Difference in what I am doing! it's not about Winning One Game...But about Stopping the Computer Ever Winning! because the Chess Game Tree has not been Solved!
Which means I should still be Beating them until I leave this Earth!


Anthony.