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3Champs reloaded

Post by Hugo »

Hi all computerchess enthusiasts

for the honor to Don Dailey

4 days ago I started a new run of my 3Champs Tournament.
This time the 3 participants are running on a 24core machine, using 12cpu:

Round Robin Tournament 90min +15 sec, 50rounds, 150 games
Ponder = ON
engine = 12 cpu
hashtables = 4 GB
learning = OFF
hyperthreading = OFF
large pages = OFF
tablebases (engine) = OFF
tablebases GUI = ON ( small set 80GB)
opening book = Fritz 14 (5moves), mode "normal", no reversed color games
hardware = Intel E5-2697 v2 @ 3.00 GHz (turboMode)

Engines:

Houdini 4.0 pro, split depth 12
Stockfish 241113, sleeping threads idle ON, min split depth 7
Komodo 1142

livegames : http://www.clemens-keck.de/livegames/

ReplayZone : http://www.clemens-keck.de/ReplayZone/3champs2013.htm

This tour will take a while. I think 4 - 5 weeks.

regards, Clemens Keck

PS.: congratulations to Komodo 1142 for winning the grand TCEC !!
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Re: 3Champs reloaded

Post by ouachita »

Great idea. I'm unaware that Komodo 1142 has been released. Where did you get it from? Also, why only 12 cpu? Don't all three support 24?

I too am about to pull the trigger on a dual Intel Xeon E5-2697v2 2.7GHz, 30M Cache, 8.0GT/s QPI, Turbo, HT, 12C, 130W, Max Mem 1866MHz machine, but first want to ensure these three engines are designed for it?
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Hugo
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Re: 3Champs reloaded

Post by Hugo »

ouachita wrote:Great idea. I'm unaware that Komodo 1142 has been released. Where did you get it from? Also, why only 12 cpu? Don't all three support 24?

I too am about to pull the trigger on a dual Intel Xeon E5-2697v2 2.7GHz, 30M Cache, 8.0GT/s QPI, Turbo, HT, 12C, 130W, Max Mem 1866MHz machine, but first want to ensure these three engines are designed for it?
Komodo 1142 is no official release.
12 cpu for engine is because of ponder ON

regards, Clemens Keck

PS: About the machine: Its simple the best I ever had :-)
regarding heat output, power consume, noise and playing strength.
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Post by beram »

Ver nice Clemens !
I like this tournament, with great quality games
and am very curious for who will win this

grts Bram
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Re: 3Champs reloaded

Post by beram »

and a very nice win of new Houdini 4 against the nTCEC champ

[pgn]
[Event "3Champs2013"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2013.11.29"]
[Round "2.2"]
[White "Houdini 4 Pro x64 x12"]
[Black "Komodo 1142.00 64-bit x12-2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A11"]
[EventDate "2013.11.28"]
[Annotator "0.15;0.15"]
[PlyCount "213"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[Source "Doe"]
[TimeControl "5400+15"]

{Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697 v2 @ 2.70GHz 2699 MHz W=27.8 plies; 20.486kN/s; Fritz 14.ctg B=26.7 plies; 16.613kN/s; Fritz 14.ctg}
1.Nf3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 1...d5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2.g3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2...c6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3.c4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3...Bg4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4.Bg2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4...e6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5.O-O {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5...Nf6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6.Qb3 {[%eval 15,28] [%emt 0:06:53]} 6...Qb6 {[%eval 15,22] [%emt 0:00:57]} 7.h3 {[%eval 16,28] [%emt 0:02:35]} 7...Bh5 {[%eval 12,25] [%emt 0:03:02]} 8.d4 {(Sc3) [%eval 23,28] [%emt 0:00:00]} 8...Be7 {(Dxb3) [%eval 5,23] [%emt 0:00:59]} 9.c5 {(Sc3) [%eval 17,26] [%emt 0:01:28]} 9...Qa6 {(Dxb3) [%eval 2,23] [%emt 0:00:49]} 10.Nc3 {(Dd1) [%eval 4,27] [%emt 0:04:09]} 10...Nbd7 {[%eval 35534,23] [%emt 0:01:19]} 11.Re1 {[%eval 11,26] [%emt 0:00:14]} 11...O-O {(b6) [%eval 5,25] [%emt 0:02:00]} 12.e4 {[%eval 13,28] [%emt 0:03:12]} 12...dxe4 {[%eval 6,25] [%emt 0:01:53]} 13.Nxe4 {[%eval 15,28] [%emt 0:00:00]} 13...Nxe4 {[%eval 14,25] [%emt 0:01:23]} 14.Rxe4 {[%eval 11,28] [%emt 0:00:05]} 14...Rad8 {(b6) [%eval 12,26] [%emt 0:02:19]} 15.Bf1 {[%eval 35,29] [%emt 0:04:56]} 15...Qa5 {[%eval 16,30] [%emt 0:01:26]} 16.Bd2 {(g4) [%eval 31,30] [%emt 0:00:00]} 16...Qc7 {[%eval 15,29] [%emt 0:03:50]} 17.g4 {(Lf4) [%eval 32,29] [%emt 0:00:00]} 17...Nf6 {(Lg6) [%eval 15,29] [%emt 0:02:56]} 18.Bf4 {[%eval 32,28] [%emt 0:02:34]} 18...Qc8 {[%eval 23,28] [%emt 0:04:58]} 19.Ree1 {[%eval 30,30] [%emt 0:00:00]} 19...Bg6 {[%eval 13,27] [%emt 0:01:41]} 20.Bg3 {(Lg2) [%eval 35,27] [%emt 0:00:38]} 20...h6 {[%eval 13,28] [%emt 0:03:10]} 21.Ne5 {(Tad1) [%eval 35,29] [%emt 0:00:00]} 21...Be4 {[%eval 14,28] [%emt 0:02:35]} 22.Rad1 {[%eval 31,29] [%emt 0:00:00]} 22...Bd5 {[%eval 13,25] [%emt 0:00:40]} 23.Qc2 {[%eval 30,26] [%emt 0:01:31]} 23...b6 {(b5) [%eval 13,29] [%emt 0:01:32]} 24.b4 {[%eval 23,27] [%emt 0:02:08]} 24...b5 {(Sd7) [%eval 13,25] [%emt 0:01:18]} 25.a4 {(Ld3) [%eval 30,27] [%emt 0:01:08]} 25...a6 {[%eval 13,26] [%emt 0:01:17]} 26.Bd3 {[%eval 17,28] [%emt 0:02:58]} 26...Nd7 {[%eval 13,29] [%emt 0:00:22]} 27.Bh7+ {(Ta1) [%eval 23,27] [%emt 0:00:45]} 27...Kh8 {[%eval 13,25] [%emt 0:00:35]} 28.Be4 {[%eval 21,28] [%emt 0:00:46]} 28...Nxe5 {[%eval 13,25] [%emt 0:01:09]} 29.Bxe5 {[%eval 20,27] [%emt 0:00:14]} 29...Bxe4 {(Lf6) [%eval 13,27] [%emt 0:02:47]} 30.Qxe4 {[%eval 20,26] [%emt 0:01:10]} 30...Rd5 {[%eval 12,29] [%emt 0:00:32]} 31.Ra1 {[%eval 22,27] [%emt 0:02:30]} 31...bxa4 {[%eval 12,30] [%emt 0:01:48]} 32.Rxa4 {[%eval 20,30] [%emt 0:00:00]} 32...Rfd8 {[%eval 12,29] [%emt 0:00:57]} 33.Ra3 {[%eval 22,29] [%emt 0:00:31]} 33...Qb7 {[%eval 12,28] [%emt 0:00:31]} 34.Rb3 {(Kg2) [%eval 8,28] [%emt 0:02:40]} 34...Kg8 {(Lg5) [%eval 12,27] [%emt 0:04:06]} 35.Kg2 {[%eval 17,26] [%emt 0:01:59]} 35...Bh4 {(Lf8) [%eval 12,29] [%emt 0:01:21]} 36.Qf3 {[%eval 29,27] [%emt 0:01:24]} 36...Qb5 {(Le7) [%eval 12,29] [%emt 0:01:24]} 37.Re4 {[%eval 36,28] [%emt 0:04:14]} 37...Qc4 {[%eval 12,30] [%emt 0:01:40]} 38.Qc3 {[%eval 30,29] [%emt 0:00:04]} 38...Qxc3 {[%eval 12,30] [%emt 0:02:30]} 39.Rxc3 {[%eval 24,32] [%emt 0:00:00]} 39...Ra8 {(Lf6) [%eval 14,26] [%emt 0:01:13]} 40.Ra3 {[%eval 23,29] [%emt 0:01:57]} 40...Kh7 {(Lf6) [%eval 15,26] [%emt 0:01:09]} 41.Kf3 {(f3) [%eval 34,27] [%emt 0:01:34]} 41...Kg6 {(Lg5) [%eval 17,27] [%emt 0:04:47]} 42.Bd6 {[%eval 42,28] [%emt 0:01:01]} 42...Bf6 {(h5) [%eval 35,29] [%emt 0:02:01]} 43.Ke3 {[%eval 44,30] [%emt 0:01:14]} 43...h5 {(Kh7) [%eval 31,28] [%emt 0:00:14]} 44.Kd3 {[%eval 45,27] [%emt 0:00:49]} 44...Kh6 {(Kh7) [%eval 35534,29] [%emt 0:03:44]} 45.Kc4 {[%eval 43,29] [%emt 0:00:50]} 45...Kh7 {[%eval 41,28] [%emt 0:04:51]} 46.Bf4 {(Le5) [%eval 45,30] [%emt 0:00:00]} 46...Rad8 {(Ta7) [%eval 41,27] [%emt 0:03:56]} 47.Be3 {[%eval 55,31] [%emt 0:01:43]} 47...Ra8 {[%eval 45,28] [%emt 0:02:19]} 48.f3 {[%eval 47,31] [%emt 0:00:06]} 48...h4 {(Kg6) [%eval 44,27] [%emt 0:00:27]} 49.f4 {(Lf2) [%eval 67,31] [%emt 0:01:23]} 49...g5 {[%eval 43,29] [%emt 0:00:39]} 50.fxg5 {(Lg1) [%eval 67,31] [%emt 0:00:14]} 50...Bxg5 {[%eval 44,27] [%emt 0:00:15]} 51.Bg1 {[%eval 66,32] [%emt 0:00:36]} 51...Rd7 {[%eval 48,30] [%emt 0:01:07]} 52.Re1 {(Te2) [%eval 68,32] [%emt 0:00:00]} 52...Bf4 {[%eval 47,28] [%emt 0:00:48]} 53.Rea1 {[%eval 67,31] [%emt 0:00:00]} 53...Rda7 {[%eval 48,28] [%emt 0:00:33]} 54.Rf3 {(Tf1) [%eval 68,31] [%emt 0:00:19]} 54...Bg3 {[%eval 46,28] [%emt 0:00:40]} 55.Be3 {[%eval 70,31] [%emt 0:00:18]} 55...Kg7 {[%eval 47,28] [%emt 0:02:42]} 56.Bd2 {(Taf1) [%eval 68,32] [%emt 0:01:31]} 56...Rd8 {[%eval 46,27] [%emt 0:01:12]} 57.Rfa3 {(Lg5) [%eval 68,32] [%emt 0:00:00]} 57...Rda8 {[%eval 48,28] [%emt 0:00:51]} 58.g5 {(Tf1) [%eval 68,31] [%emt 0:00:00]} 58...Kg6 {[%eval 48,27] [%emt 0:00:35]} 59.Rf1 {[%eval 66,31] [%emt 0:00:16]} 59...Rd8 {[%eval 58,27] [%emt 0:00:32]} 60.Bc1 {(Tf6+) [%eval 67,30] [%emt 0:00:24]} 60...Rd5 {[%eval 43,27] [%emt 0:00:43]} 61.Rf6+ {[%eval 65,31] [%emt 0:00:19]} 61...Kg7 {[%eval 44,29] [%emt 0:01:41]} 62.Raf3 {(Ld2) [%eval 67,32] [%emt 0:00:00]} 62...Re7 {[%eval 43,27] [%emt 0:00:15]} 63.Rf1 {(Le3) [%eval 67,30] [%emt 0:01:02]} 63...Red7 {(Lc7) [%eval 42,25] [%emt 0:00:15]} 64.Be3 {[%eval 64,30] [%emt 0:00:50]} 64...Re7 {[%eval 35534,30] [%emt 0:02:39]} 65.Kc3 {[%eval 66,33] [%emt 0:00:00]} 65...Rd8 {[%eval 46,25] [%emt 0:00:23]} 66.Kd3 {(Kb3) [%eval 66,30] [%emt 0:00:40]} 66...Rde8 {(Ta8) [%eval 44,26] [%emt 0:00:53]} 67.Ra1 {[%eval 92,30] [%emt 0:01:27]} 67...Ra7 {[%eval 79,27] [%emt 0:00:19]} 68.d5 {[%eval 112,27] [%emt 0:00:31]} 68...Be5 {[%eval 89,25] [%emt 0:00:05]} 69.Bd4 {[%eval 108,27] [%emt 0:01:05]} 69...Bxd4 {[%eval 90,25] [%emt 0:00:11]} 70.Kxd4 {[%eval 106,27] [%emt 0:00:00]} 70...Rb7 {[%eval 86,26] [%emt 0:02:04]} 71.Rb1 {(Ta4) [%eval 131,27] [%emt 0:01:05]} 71...cxd5 {[%eval 35534,24] [%emt 0:00:46]} 72.Ke5 {[%eval 140,27] [%emt 0:00:39]} 72...Rh8 {(Td8) [%eval 80,24] [%emt 0:00:23]} 73.Rf4 {[%eval 121,27] [%emt 0:01:34]} 73...Rd7 {[%eval 127,25] [%emt 0:00:55]} 74.Rg1 {(Td1) [%eval 171,28] [%emt 0:00:40]} 74...Kg6 {[%eval 130,26] [%emt 0:00:28]} 75.Rgg4 {[%eval 156,25] [%emt 0:02:17]} 75...d4 {(Tb7) [%eval 35534,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} 76.Rf6+ {[%eval 241,25] [%emt 0:00:38]} 76...Kg7 {[%eval 35534,25] [%emt 0:00:01]} 77.Rxd4 {[%eval 241,23] [%emt 0:00:21]} 77...Rb7 {[%eval 35534,24] [%emt 0:00:17]} 78.Rf2 {[%eval 178,28] [%emt 0:04:22]} 78...a5 {[%eval 177,24] [%emt 0:00:21]} 79.g6 {[%eval 304,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} 79...Rh5+ {(f6+) [%eval 35534,24] [%emt 0:00:47]} 80.Kd6 {[%eval 366,25] [%emt 0:00:23]} 80...fxg6 {[%eval 195,25] [%emt 0:00:33]} 81.c6 {(bxa5) [%eval 457,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} 81...Rb6 {[%eval 207,25] [%emt 0:00:10]} 82.Kd7 {[%eval 460,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} 82...axb4 {[%eval 212,23] [%emt 0:00:08]} 83.c7 {[%eval 478,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} 83...Rc5 {[%eval 239,26] [%emt 0:00:25]} 84.c8=Q {[%eval 530,27] [%emt 0:00:40]} 84...Rxc8 {[%eval 251,28] [%emt 0:00:18]} 85.Kxc8 {[%eval 531,25] [%emt 0:00:09]} 85...g5 {(b3) [%eval 252,27] [%emt 0:00:41]} 86.Kc7 {[%eval 535,27] [%emt 0:00:13]} 86...Rb5 {[%eval 35534,27] [%emt 0:00:18]} 87.Kc6 {[%eval 544,28] [%emt 0:00:00]} 87...Rb8 {[%eval 296,25] [%emt 0:00:06]} 88.Rg4 {(Kc5) [%eval 561,26] [%emt 0:00:03]} 88...Kg6 {[%eval 315,24] [%emt 0:00:10]} 89.Rfg2 {[%eval 575,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} 89...Kf6 {[%eval 336,25] [%emt 0:00:14]} 90.Rxg5 {[%eval 578,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} 90...Rc8+ {[%eval 352,25] [%emt 0:00:10]} 91.Kd7 {[%eval 591,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} 91...Rc3 {[%eval 385,28] [%emt 0:00:56]} 92.Rg6+ {[%eval 632,28] [%emt 0:00:00]} 92...Kf5 {(Kf7) [%eval 385,27] [%emt 0:00:05]} 93.R2g5+ {[%eval 636,23] [%emt 0:00:05]} 93...Kf4 {[%eval 35534,28] [%emt 0:00:04]} 94.Rg4+ {[%eval 636,26] [%emt 0:00:00]} 94...Kf5 {[%eval 401,26] [%emt 0:00:05]} 95.Ke7 {[%eval 636,25] [%emt 0:00:00]} 95...Rc7+ {[%eval 417,25] [%emt 0:00:05]} 96.Kd6 {[%eval 640,24] [%emt 0:00:00]} 96...Rb7 {(Ta7) [%eval 417,27] [%emt 0:00:07]} 97.Rg8 {(Tg7) [%eval 643,23] [%emt 0:00:00]} 97...Rb6+ {[%eval 417,24] [%emt 0:00:04]} 98.Kc5 {[%eval 704,29] [%emt 0:00:39]} 98...Ra6 {[%eval 464,28] [%emt 0:00:02]} 99.Kxb4 {(Tf8+) [%eval 733,27] [%emt 0:00:23]} 99...Kf6 {(Ta7) [%eval 395,25] [%emt 0:00:08]} 100.Rxh4 {(Tf4+) [%eval 733,23] [%emt 0:00:01]} 100...Ra2 {(Ke7) [%eval 488,29] [%emt 0:00:44]} 101.Rh6+ {[%eval 972,27] [%emt 0:00:42]} 101...Ke5 {[%eval 35534,33] [%emt 0:01:04]} 102.Rg5+ {(Th5+) [%eval 1183,27] [%emt 0:00:00]} 102...Kd6 {[%eval 975,28] [%emt 0:00:03]} 103.h4 {(Tg3) [%eval 1401,26] [%emt 0:00:20]} 103...Ra1 {(Tf2) [%eval 464,24] [%emt 0:00:04]} 104.h5 {(Thg6) [%eval 1398,22] [%emt 0:00:04]} 104...Rb1+ {[%eval 991,30] [%emt 0:00:43]} 105.Kc3 {(Kc4) [%eval 1963,27] [%emt 0:00:00]} 105...Rh1 {(Tc1+) [%eval 35534,29] [%emt 0:00:46]} 106.Rb5 {[%eval 2029,27] [%emt 0:00:17]} 106...Rh3+ {(Tc1+) [%eval 4587,24] [%emt 0:00:03]} 107.Kd4 {(Kd2) [%eval 1942,25] [%emt 0:00:03]} 1-0
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Re: 3Champs reloaded

Post by Graham Banks »

Nice machine, nice tournament! :)
Will follow with interest.
12 cores ponder on (with no hyperthreading rubbish) is possibly the highest quality tournament that a tester has posted here.

Graham.
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Post by velmarin »

Very interesting, tremendous machine and good condition.

A three pulse!!
:)
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Post by lkaufman »

Graham Banks wrote:Nice machine, nice tournament! :)
Will follow with interest.
12 cores ponder on (with no hyperthreading rubbish) is possibly the highest quality tournament that a tester has posted here.

Graham.
I don't think the quality will be quite as high as TCEC, due to the faster time limit (105 vs 150 for time in minutes plus increment in seconds), but anyway a close second!
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Re: 3Champs reloaded

Post by ouachita »

Larry - as you know, I'm planning a "LTC" 16-core 2687W, no ponder, event between H4ProB, K1142 and SF DD (or TBD), and ask for your, Marco and Robert's suggestions on format, along with anyone else's.
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Post by velmarin »

ouachita wrote:Larry - as you know, I'm planning a "LTC" 16-core 2687W, no ponder, event between H4ProB, K1142 and SF DD (or TBD), and ask for your, Marco and Robert's suggestions on format, along with anyone else's.
Not bored just three?

OH, is a rhetorical question.:wink:
Not bored, this clear.:lol:

Luckily we also have a Graham.
Heartfelt thanks, Graham.