shrapnel wrote:Everyone havin' fun bashing H4 ?
H4 wouldn't make these mistakes given fast, modern hardware and the use of Syzygy EGTB and more time.
Hey Dude, the only one bashing H4 here is you. You are the one claiming H4 makes mistakes unless run on fast modern hardware. And needs Szygy EGTB to play well in the endgame, and just needs more time to play well.
When playing against the free program Stockfish.
"The worst thing that can happen to a forum is a running wild attacking moderator(HGM) who is not corrected by the community." - Ed Schröder
But my words like silent raindrops fell. And echoed in the wells of silence.
mwyoung wrote:
And needs Szygy EGTB to play well in the endgame, and just needs more time to play well.
When playing against the free program Stockfish.
Actually if we are testing the engines on same PC,
It is not necessary to set/use the large endgames
I think 4-men is quite enough
This issue (using large EGTB) is similar as using deep book in moves
I mean if we want to to see the real strength of the engines:
-It is a good idea the engines to be tested with a short neutral book
-And engines to be tested with small size of EGTB (4-men suits perfectly well)
Of course, if we are testing the engines on online severs or on official tournaments,
Then definitely: as far as possible large EGTB should be used
And there is no doubt that as far as possible the deepest and strongest books should be used too
mwyoung wrote:
And needs Szygy EGTB to play well in the endgame, and just needs more time to play well.
When playing against the free program Stockfish.
Actually if we are testing the engines on same PC,
It is not necessary to set/use the large endgames
I think 4-men is quite enough
This issue (using large EGTB) is similar as using deep book in moves
I mean if we want to to see the real strength of the engines:
-It is a good idea the engines to be tested with a short neutral book
-And engines to be tested with small size of EGTB (4-men suits perfectly well)
Of course, if we are testing the engines on online severs or on official tournaments,
Then definitely: as far as possible large EGTB should be used
And there is no doubt that as far as possible the deepest and strongest books should be used too
Best,
Sedat
You need to address that comment to the dude.
"The worst thing that can happen to a forum is a running wild attacking moderator(HGM) who is not corrected by the community." - Ed Schröder
But my words like silent raindrops fell. And echoed in the wells of silence.
mwyoung wrote:
And needs Szygy EGTB to play well in the endgame, and just needs more time to play well.
When playing against the free program Stockfish.
Actually if we are testing the engines on same PC,
It is not necessary to set/use the large endgames
I think 4-men is quite enough
This issue (using large EGTB) is similar as using deep book in moves
I mean if we want to to see the real strength of the engines:
-It is a good idea the engines to be tested with a short neutral book
-And engines to be tested with small size of EGTB (4-men suits perfectly well)
Of course, if we are testing the engines on online severs or on official tournaments,
Then definitely: as far as possible large EGTB should be used
And there is no doubt that as far as possible the deepest and strongest books should be used too
mwyoung wrote:
And needs Szygy EGTB to play well in the endgame, and just needs more time to play well.
When playing against the free program Stockfish.
Actually if we are testing the engines on same PC,
It is not necessary to set/use the large endgames
I think 4-men is quite enough
This issue (using large EGTB) is similar as using deep book in moves
I mean if we want to to see the real strength of the engines:
-It is a good idea the engines to be tested with a short neutral book
-And engines to be tested with small size of EGTB (4-men suits perfectly well)
Of course, if we are testing the engines on online severs or on official tournaments,
Then definitely: as far as possible large EGTB should be used
And there is no doubt that as far as possible the deepest and strongest books should be used too
Best,
Sedat
You need to address that comment to the dude.
But however,
I hardly doubt that Anıl will understand
Most engines are getting impressive depth at blitz time controls these days. And a blitz game in 2014 on current hardware is reaching depths that a standard time control game would have reached a few years ago.
I think some of the tactical success of Stockfish is possibly due to a different eval. Houdini eval is very good compared to most engines but there are cases where Stockfish is more effective at finding tactics.