Komodo 8 for Android is a MONSTER!

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Re: Komodo 8 for Android is a MONSTER!

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Robert Flesher wrote:Hello folks. I just wanted to share a game between Shredder 12 (i7 920) vs Komodo 8 Android on a older Samsung Galaxy III. In the past I have tried Andriod and Ios engines vs Shredder 12. They were all crushed! However, it seems this may have changed.
Well, of course, Shredder is no match for Komodo. Do you realize only now?
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Re: Komodo 8 for Android is a MONSTER!

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Robert Flesher wrote:Hello folks. I just wanted to share a game between Shredder 12 (i7 920) vs Komodo 8 Android on a older Samsung Galaxy III. In the past I have tried Andriod and Ios engines vs Shredder 12. They were all crushed! However, it seems this may have changed.


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1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. exd5 exd5 5. Ngf3 Nf6
6. Bb5+ Bd7 7. Bxd7+ Nbxd7 8. O-O Be7 9. dxc5 Nxc5 10. Nd4
O-O 11. N2f3 Re8 12. Be3 g6 13. c3 Bd6 14. Nb5 Bf8 15. Nbd4
Rc8 16. Qc2 Bd6 17. Nb5 Bb8 18. Rfe1 Qb6 19. a4 a6 20. b4
Rxe3 21. Rxe3 Ne6 22. Na3 Ng4 23. Ree1 Ba7 24. Rf1 Nf4
25. Ra2 Qe6 26. Qd2 Qe4 27. Qe1 Nd3 28. Qxe4 dxe4 29. Nd4
Ngxf2 30. g3 Ng4 31. Kh1 Ndf2+ 32. Kg2 Nd1 33. Re1 Nxc3
34. Rd2 e3 35. Rd3 Ne5 36. Rexe3 Nxd3 37. Rxd3 Nxa4 38. Ne2
Bb8 39. Rd7 b5 40. Rd2 Kg7 41. Kf2 Nb6 42. Kf1 Be5 43. Kf2
Rc6 44. Nd4 Rc3 45. Nac2 Nc4 46. Rd1 Nb2 47. Rb1 Na4
48. Rb3 Rc4 49. Ke3 f5 50. Kd3 Kh6 51. Ne6 Rc6 52. Ncd4 Rd6
53. Rb1 Kh5 54. Re1 Nb2+ 55. Ke3 Nc4+ 56. Kd3 Kg4 57. Re2
Bf6 58. Ra2 Ne5+ 59. Ke3 Nf3 60. Nxf3 Rxe6+ 61. Kf2 Bc3
62. Rc2 Bxb4 63. Kg2 0-1
[ /pgn]

What was the time control you gave komodo for android against Shredder?
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Re: Komodo 8 for Android is a MONSTER!

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lucasart wrote:
Robert Flesher wrote:Hello folks. I just wanted to share a game between Shredder 12 (i7 920) vs Komodo 8 Android on a older Samsung Galaxy III. In the past I have tried Andriod and Ios engines vs Shredder 12. They were all crushed! However, it seems this may have changed.
Well, of course, Shredder is no match for Komodo. Do you realize only now?

I think you miss the point. Shredder is running on a quad I7 920 and Komodo Android is running on a slow Galaxy III. Whereas, Shredder 12 crushes Stockfish 5 on this same platform. Capiche?
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Re: Komodo 8 for Android is a MONSTER!

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h1a8 wrote:
Robert Flesher wrote:Hello folks. I just wanted to share a game between Shredder 12 (i7 920) vs Komodo 8 Android on a older Samsung Galaxy III. In the past I have tried Andriod and Ios engines vs Shredder 12. They were all crushed! However, it seems this may have changed.


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1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. exd5 exd5 5. Ngf3 Nf6
6. Bb5+ Bd7 7. Bxd7+ Nbxd7 8. O-O Be7 9. dxc5 Nxc5 10. Nd4
O-O 11. N2f3 Re8 12. Be3 g6 13. c3 Bd6 14. Nb5 Bf8 15. Nbd4
Rc8 16. Qc2 Bd6 17. Nb5 Bb8 18. Rfe1 Qb6 19. a4 a6 20. b4
Rxe3 21. Rxe3 Ne6 22. Na3 Ng4 23. Ree1 Ba7 24. Rf1 Nf4
25. Ra2 Qe6 26. Qd2 Qe4 27. Qe1 Nd3 28. Qxe4 dxe4 29. Nd4
Ngxf2 30. g3 Ng4 31. Kh1 Ndf2+ 32. Kg2 Nd1 33. Re1 Nxc3
34. Rd2 e3 35. Rd3 Ne5 36. Rexe3 Nxd3 37. Rxd3 Nxa4 38. Ne2
Bb8 39. Rd7 b5 40. Rd2 Kg7 41. Kf2 Nb6 42. Kf1 Be5 43. Kf2
Rc6 44. Nd4 Rc3 45. Nac2 Nc4 46. Rd1 Nb2 47. Rb1 Na4
48. Rb3 Rc4 49. Ke3 f5 50. Kd3 Kh6 51. Ne6 Rc6 52. Ncd4 Rd6
53. Rb1 Kh5 54. Re1 Nb2+ 55. Ke3 Nc4+ 56. Kd3 Kg4 57. Re2
Bf6 58. Ra2 Ne5+ 59. Ke3 Nf3 60. Nxf3 Rxe6+ 61. Kf2 Bc3
62. Rc2 Bxb4 63. Kg2 0-1
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What was the time control you gave komodo for android against Shredder?[/quote


Shredder was set to 5 min and Komodo Android was set to 15 sec per move.
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Re: Komodo 8 for Android is a MONSTER!

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lucasart wrote:
Robert Flesher wrote:Hello folks. I just wanted to share a game between Shredder 12 (i7 920) vs Komodo 8 Android on a older Samsung Galaxy III. In the past I have tried Andriod and Ios engines vs Shredder 12. They were all crushed! However, it seems this may have changed.
Well, of course, Shredder is no match for Komodo. Do you realize only now?

I think you missed that Shredder is running on a desktop i7 quadcore while Komodo is running on a mobile phone! When you consider that the desktop computer probably has a tremendous amount of super fast RAM relative to the mobile as well as dramatically more capable processing power it is a very impressive achievement!
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Re: Komodo 8 for Android is a MONSTER!

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Game in 5 minutes does not equal 15 seconds per move. Game in 5 minutes is between 300/60 and 300/40 unless you are using that to compensate for the hardware speed disparity.
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Re: Komodo 8 for Android is a MONSTER!

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Here a other tournament but now on my Pipo T9 tablet 8cores @1.7Ghz same Mediatek MT6592 octa-core cpu as my mobile..but a little bit slower :)

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Re: Komodo 8 for Android is a MONSTER!

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mjlef wrote:"Chess for Android" lets people run engine matches on Android devices. A few people have already sent us some good results, and we would like to hear more. I suggest having a charger plugged into your Android device, since chess engines use a lot of power.

Mark
So far overall, I would say the Stockfish 5 is a little better than Komodo 8 on Android. I have not played enough games yet to be sure. However here is a nice problem like endgame that occurred in one of their encounters.

Black to play and Win
[d]7k/7p/1p2p3/4P3/2P2P2/5K2/8/8 b - - 0 73

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[Event "Chess for Android Tournament"]
[Site "United States"]
[Date "2014.09.08"]
[Round "15"]
[White "Stockfish 5 Android (32-Bit)"]
[Black "Komodo 8 Android (32-Bit)"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A90"]

1.d4 f5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 e6 4.c4 d5 5.Nf3 c6 6.O-O Bd6 7.b3 Qe7 { from PGN 0.016 } 8.Bf4 { [17/23]45/d6f4 30.055 } 8...Bxf4 { [15]-6/g3f4 30.105 } 9.gxf4 { [18/25]33/e8g8 0.015 } 9...O-O { [15]-21/b1c3 30.076 } 10.Ne5 { [17/24]24/b7b6 0.008 } 10...Nbd7 { [16]-18/e2e3 30.134 } 11.e3 { [18/25]30/f6e4 30.024 } 11...a5 { [14]-36/b1c3 0.117 } 12.Qe2 { [17/23]50/d7e5 30.026 } 12...Nxe5 { [15]-40/f4e5 30.081 } 13.fxe5 { [19/27]51/f6e4 0.136 } 13...Ne4 { [18]-38/f2f3 29.949 } 14.f3 { [20/27]55/e4g5 0.01 } 14...Ng5 { [17]-48/b1c3 30.044 } 15.Nc3 { [19/28]61/b7b6 0.011 } 15...Bd7 { [16]-57/c3a4 30.035 } 16.Na4 { [17/29]51/f5f4 30.016 } 16...Rad8 { [15]-55/e2d2 0.096 } 17.Qd2 { [17/24]81/b7b5 30.012 } 17...dxc4 { [15]-50/0000 0.078 } 18.f4 { [18/28]101/g5e4 30.019 } 18...Ne4 { [16]-78/g2e4 30.101 } 19.Bxe4 { [20/35]121/f5e4 0.077 } 19...fxe4 { [15]-70/d2a5 29.941 } 20.bxc4 { [21/32]112/d7e8 0.078 } 20...Be8 { [16]-68/d2f2 30.132 } 21.Nc3 { [17/28]113/e8g6 0.012 } 21...Bg6 { [15]-65/f1f2 30.176 } 22.Rfc1 { [17/24]121/g6f5 0.018 } 22...Qh4 { [15]-54/d2g2 30.077 } 23.Qg2 { [20/34]122/f8f7 30.027 } 23...Qh5 { [15]-61/c3e4 0.026 } 24.Rab1 { [18/29]151/f8f7 30.024 } 24...Rd7 { [15]-54/c3e4 30.092 } 25.Na4 { [20/30]149/d7e7 30.099 } 25...Re7 { [15]-91/a4c5 30.063 } 26.Nc5 { [22/33]145/f8f7 0.102 } 26...Rff7 { [15]-115/b1b2 29.956 } 27.Rb2 { [22/40]154/g6f5 0.097 } 27...Bf5 { [15]-121/c5e4 29.976 } 28.Nxe4 { [22/36]161/f5e4 0.097 } 28...Bxe4 { [18]-122/g2e4 29.956 } 29.Qxe4 { [22/34]161/g7g5 0.102 } 29...g6 { [17]-123/g1h1 29.914 } 30.Rg2 { [21/27]169/e7d7 30.018 } 30...Rd7 { [17]-126/e4c2 30.038 } 31.Rb1 { [19/26]160/f7g7 0.079 } 31...Rf8 { [16]-126/c4c5 30.052 } 32.a3 { [22/26]172/f8d8 30.015 } 32...Kh8 { [17]-117/c4c5 30.063 } 33.Qd3 { [19/27]153/g6g5 30.02 } 33...Rf5 { [16]-116/b1f1 30.053 } 34.Qc3 { [18/29]169/h5f3 30.023 } 34...Qf3 { [16]-95/g2g3 30.077 } 35.Rg3 { [17/29]122/f3e4 0.106 } 35...Qe4 { [18]-75/b1d1 29.953 } 36.Rf1 { [18/33]129/g6g5 0.11 } 36...c5 { [15]-47/d4d5 30.087 } 37.dxc5 { [18/30]73/f5f8 30.038 } 37...Rd3 { [18]-11/c3a5 30.185 } 38.Qe1 { [16/30]1/d3a3 30.026 } 38...Rxa3 { [14]24/e1e2 30.16 } 39.Qd2 { [19/30]-6/a3d3 0.018 } 39...Rd3 { [17]20/d2a5 30.1 } 40.Qxa5 { [20/40]-18/d3e3 0.022 } 40...Rxe3 { [18]25/a5d8 30.037 } 41.c6 { [21/34]0/e4d4 0.098 } 41...Qd4 { [17]36/g3e3 30.095 } 42.Rxe3 { [21/38]-6/d4e3 0.127 } 42...Qxe3+ { [17]27/g1g2 29.936 } 43.Kg2 { [23/33]-11/e3e4 0.117 } 43...Qe4+ { [18]26/0000 29.931 } 44.Kg3 { [22/33]-24/e4c6 0.013 } 44...Qxc6 { [18]12/a5b5 30.178 } 45.Rd1 { [22/38]-24/h8g7 0.089 } 45...Kg7 { [18]16/a5d8 30.14 } 46.Qd8 { [21/33]-12/f5f7 0.089 } 46...Rf7 { [19]18/d8d3 29.983 } 47.Qd3 { [20/37]-34/b7b6 0.123 } 47...Qa4 { [19]18/d3d4 29.899 } 48.Rb1 { [20/36]0/a4a7 30.046 } 48...Qa7 { [16]13/d3e4 30.095 } 49.Qe4 { [19/35]-23/a7a3 0.18 } 49...Kg8 { [18]18/e4d3 29.845 } 50.Rd1 { [19/35]-5/a7a3 30.042 } 50...Qa3+ { [19]16/e4d3 30.196 } 51.Qd3 { [21/31]-7/a3b4 0.021 } 51...Qb4 { [20]8/d3d4 29.993 } 52.Qd4 { [23/36]0/b7b6 0.114 } 52...b6 { [20]21/h2h3 29.939 } 53.h3 { [24/31]0/g8g7 0.011 } 53...Kg7 { [20]19/g3h2 29.997 } 54.Kh2 { [23/17]0/b4e7 0.086 } 54...Qf8 { [16]22/h2g3 29.935 } 55.Rf1 { [17/30]-22/g6g5 30.019 } 55...g5 { [17]28/h2g3 30.044 } 56.Kg3 { [21/39]-63/f8c5 0.022 } 56...Rf5 { [18]34/f1f2 30.011 } 57.Rf3 { [18/35]-34/g7g6 30.025 } 57...Kg6 { [18]45/0000 30.045 } 58.h4 { [22/38]-63/f8c5 0.02 } 58...gxh4+ { [18]39/g3g2 30.029 } 59.Kh3 { [21/33]-33/f8a8 30.029 } 59...Qa8 { [17]26/d4e3 30.041 } 60.Qd3 { [21/38]-27/g6h6 0.013 } 60...Kg7 { [18]26/h3h2 30.066 } 61.Rf1 { [19/28]-43/g7h8 30.031 } 61...Kh8 { [18]30/d3f3 30.089 } 62.Kxh4 { [19/36]-52/a8f8 0.098 } 62...Qf8 { [16]78/h4g3 30.038 } 63.Kg3 { [18/35]-71/f8g8 0.101 } 63...Qg7+ { [16]62/g3f3 29.955 } 64.Kf3 { [18/38]-66/f5f8 30.097 } 64...Rf8 { [18]68/f3e3 0.111 } 65.Rf2 { [18/37]-87/g7g1 29.862 } 65...Qg1 { [17]72/f2f1 30.058 } 66.Qf1 { [20/33]-100/g1g6 0.098 } 66...Qg6 { [17]88/f3e3 30.104 } 67.Ke3 { [21/38]-95/f8a8 0.077 } 67...Ra8 { [19]102/f1c1 29.984 } 68.Qc1 { [21/38]-96/g6g3 0.136 } 68...Qg4 { [17]126/f2f3 29.933 } 69.Rf3 { [19/36]-131/a8a2 30.105 } 69...Ra2 { [19]138/c1h1 0.031 } 70.Qh1 { [22/44]-242/a2a3 29.925 } 70...Ra3+ { [20]140/e3f2 0.186 } 71.Kf2 { [28/58]-308/a3f3 29.842 } 71...Qxf3+ { [20]153/h1f3 0.13 } 72.Qxf3 { [29/43]-760/a3f3 30.101 } 72...Rxf3+ { [20]201/0000 0.005 } 73.Kxf3 { [28/43]-890/h8g7 30.016 } 73...Kg7 { [22]380/f3e4 30.021 } 74.Ke4 { [31/42]-785/g7f8 0.149 } 74...Kf8 { [22]407/e4e3 29.87 } 75.Kd3 { [32/38]-3976/h7h5 0.128 } 75...h5 { [23]461/0000 30.028 } 76.Ke4 { [32/36]-3982/f8f7 0.074 } 76...Kf7 { [22]592/e4d4 30.078 } 77.Kd4 { [33/35]-4880/f7g6 0.154 } 77...Kg6 { [21]683/0000 29.877 } 78.Kd3 { [35/39]-4908/g6f5 0.117 } 78...Kf5 { [22]909/d3e3 30.075 } 79.Ke3 { [36/39]-5734/h5h4 0.079 } 79...h4 { [25]960/0000 29.945 } 80.Kf3 { [36/39]-6015/h4h3 0.111 } 80...h3 { [24]1126/0000 30.086 } 81.Kg3 { [33/36]-12241/h3h2 0.083 } 81...h2 { [25]mate:20/g3h2 30.041 } 82.Kg2 { [33/34]mate:-39/f5f4 0.03 } 82...Kxf4 { [22]mate:20/g2h1 30.063 } 83.Kxh2 { [33/37]mate:-33/f4e5 0.08 } 83...Kxe5 { [24]mate:18/h2g3 30.046 } 84.Kg2 { [34/39]mate:-27/e5d4 0.095 } 84...Kd4 { [24]mate:16/g2f1 30.041 } 85.Kf3 { [34/37]mate:-18/e6e5 0.122 } 85...Kxc4 { [23]mate:14/f3e3 30.049 } 86.Kg3 { [35/29]mate:-13/b6b5 30.062 } 86...b5 { [22]mate:13/g3f4 30.01 } 87.Kf2 { [37/25]mate:-12/b5b4 0.01 } 87...b4 { [23]mate:12/f2e2 30.068 } 88.Ke1 { [40/23]mate:-11/b4b3 0.057 } 88...b3 { [22]mate:11/e1d2 30.029 } 89.Kd2 { [41/21]mate:-10/e6e5 0.083 } 89...Kd4 { [23]mate:10/d2c1 29.93 } 90.Kd1 { [45/19]mate:-9/d4c3 30.043 } 90...Kc3 { [23]mate:9/d1e2 30.029 } 91.Ke1 { [56/17]mate:-8/b3b2 0.06 } 91...b2 { [21]mate:8/e1f2 30.061 } 92.Kf1 { [63/15]mate:-7/b2b1q 0.09 } 92...b1=Q+ { [21]mate:7/f1g2 30.056 } 93.Kg2 { [85/13]mate:-6/b1f5 0.019 } 93...Qf5 { [20]mate:6/g2g3 29.974 } 94.Kg3 { [103/11]mate:-5/c3d3 0.13 } 94...Kd4 { [20]mate:5/g3h4 29.886 } 95.Kh2 { [120/9]mate:-4/d4e3 2.053 } 95...Ke3 { [20]mate:4/h2g3 30.031 } 96.Kg1 { [120/7]mate:-3/f5g6 0.094 } 96...Qg6+ { [20]mate:3/g1h2 30.063 } 97.Kf1 { [120/5]mate:-2/g6g4 0.005 } 97...e5 { [23]mate:2/f1e1 30.101 } 98.Ke1 { [120/3]mate:-1/g6g1 0.508 } 98...Qb1# 0-1
[/pgn]


Komodo 8
Stockfish 5

Software:
OS Android 32-Bit
Chess For Android GUI
SilverSuite.pgn
No Tablebases
Ponder ON
1 CPU Per Engine

Hardware:
Samsung Galaxy S4
SGH-M919
1.9GHz Quad Core
2GB RAM
16 GB ROM
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Re: Komodo 8 for Android is a MONSTER!

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Because Komodo 8 is distributed as an Android Chessbase compatible engine, it is immediately available for import in Chess for Android on your phone, tablet, or smart-watch, and in Chess for Glass on your Glass device. Many thanks to Mark, Larry, and Jeremy for making this amazing engine available. I wish I could have shared my excitement over this with Don too.

http://aartbik.blogspot.com/2014/09/mor ... odo-8.html

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Re: Komodo 8 for Android is a MONSTER!

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Komodo 8 (Android Version)
Stockfish 5 (Android Version)

Software:
OS Android 32-Bit
Chess For Android GUI
Noomen2014.pgn
No Tablebases
Ponder ON
1 CPU Per Engine

Hardware:
Samsung Galaxy S4
SGH-M919
1.9GHz Quad Core
2GB RAM
16 GB ROM

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22 Games (Android.pgn): https://mega.co.nz/#!AU8XXI6A!3O6PJdRyn ... k2pZ3hkzGY
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