Simply incredible Stockfish win in TCEC Season 7 Stage 2
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Re: Simply incredible Stockfish win in TCEC Season 7 Stage 2
Yes, 1 Hour per side would be a reasonable compromise.
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Re: Simply incredible Stockfish win in TCEC Season 7 Stage 2
notyetagm wrote:http://www.chessbomb.com/embed/2014-tce ... fish-Jonny
<Infenwe: Wow. This might be one of the most impressive games I've seen this entire season. SF playing down a rook for over 20 moves. Such amazing ability to evaluate compensation for the material.>
[pgn]
[White "Stockfish 231014"]
[Black "Jonny 6"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Round "05"]
[Date "Wed Oct 29 2014"]
[WhiteClock "0:04:29"]
[BlackClock "0:32:07"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e3 Be6 4. Nf3 c6 5. Nbd2 b5 6. a4 Nf6 7. axb5 cxb5 8. b3 c3 9. Bxb5+ Bd7 10. Bxd7+ Nbxd7 11. Nb1 Rc8 12. Qc2 Nd5 13. Ba3 e5 14. Bxf8 Kxf8 15. O-O Nb4 16. Qe4 c2 17. Na3 Nf6 18. Qb7 Nfd5 19. Nxe5 Qc7 20. Qb5 a6 21. Qa4 a5 22. Nb5 c1=Q 23. Raxc1 Qxc1 24. h3 Qc2 25. Nd6 Rb8 26. e4 Nb6 27. Qb5 Qc7 28. Ndxf7 Rg8 29. Qxa5 N6d5 30. Qa1 Nf4 31. d5 Nbd3 32. Qa3+ Qe7 33. d6 Qf6 34. d7+ Qe7 35. Qa5 Nxe5 36. Nxe5 Qd6 37. Kh2 Ng6 38. f4 Ke7 39. Nc4 Qd4 40. f5 Nf8 41. Rf2 Qxf2 42. Qe5+ Kxd7 43. Qxb8 Ke7 44. Qe5+ Kd8 45. Qd5+ Ke7 46. Qxg8 Qf4+ 47. Kg1 Qc1+ 48. Kf2 Qf4+ 49. Ke2 Qxe4+ 50. Ne3 Qe5 51. Kf3 h6 52. b4 Ke8 53. Qd5 Qf6 54. Qe4+ Kf7 55. b5 Nd7 56. Qc4+ Ke8 57. Qc8+ Qd8 58. Qxd8+ Kxd8 59. Ke4 Nf8 60. Kd5 Kc8 1-0 [/pgn]
Hello Jeffrey,
Isn't there an adage that if you sacrifice a rook and win the game, it is a brilliancy, but if you lose it is the worst blunder ever?
Later.
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Re: Simply incredible Stockfish win in TCEC Season 7 Stage 2
It is an interesting game, but it is not that shocking. SF was a rook down for a while, but have 4 pawns, not to mention the rook was trapped and the king stuck in the middle. So, it was not down in material that much. The compensation was only for R v PPPP.notyetagm wrote:http://www.chessbomb.com/embed/2014-tce ... fish-Jonny
<Infenwe: Wow. This might be one of the most impressive games I've seen this entire season. SF playing down a rook for over 20 moves. Such amazing ability to evaluate compensation for the material.>
[pgn]
[White "Stockfish 231014"]
[Black "Jonny 6"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Round "05"]
[Date "Wed Oct 29 2014"]
[WhiteClock "0:04:29"]
[BlackClock "0:32:07"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e3 Be6 4. Nf3 c6 5. Nbd2 b5 6. a4 Nf6 7. axb5 cxb5 8. b3 c3 9. Bxb5+ Bd7 10. Bxd7+ Nbxd7 11. Nb1 Rc8 12. Qc2 Nd5 13. Ba3 e5 14. Bxf8 Kxf8 15. O-O Nb4 16. Qe4 c2 17. Na3 Nf6 18. Qb7 Nfd5 19. Nxe5 Qc7 20. Qb5 a6 21. Qa4 a5 22. Nb5 c1=Q 23. Raxc1 Qxc1 24. h3 Qc2 25. Nd6 Rb8 26. e4 Nb6 27. Qb5 Qc7 28. Ndxf7 Rg8 29. Qxa5 N6d5 30. Qa1 Nf4 31. d5 Nbd3 32. Qa3+ Qe7 33. d6 Qf6 34. d7+ Qe7 35. Qa5 Nxe5 36. Nxe5 Qd6 37. Kh2 Ng6 38. f4 Ke7 39. Nc4 Qd4 40. f5 Nf8 41. Rf2 Qxf2 42. Qe5+ Kxd7 43. Qxb8 Ke7 44. Qe5+ Kd8 45. Qd5+ Ke7 46. Qxg8 Qf4+ 47. Kg1 Qc1+ 48. Kf2 Qf4+ 49. Ke2 Qxe4+ 50. Ne3 Qe5 51. Kf3 h6 52. b4 Ke8 53. Qd5 Qf6 54. Qe4+ Kf7 55. b5 Nd7 56. Qc4+ Ke8 57. Qc8+ Qd8 58. Qxd8+ Kxd8 59. Ke4 Nf8 60. Kd5 Kc8 1-0 [/pgn]
BTW, the opening treatment from black perspective was ugly.
Miguel
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Re: Simply incredible Stockfish win in TCEC Season 7 Stage 2
Fully agreed....rabbits23 wrote:Jeffrey : I don't doubt that there are some impressive calculations in the
game but really 3.... Be6? by Jonny . That move goes against all my
understanding of clever chess openings. It locks in Black's E pawn unnecessarily and slows down its game preparation I would thought.
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Re: Simply incredible Stockfish win in TCEC Season 7 Stage 2
Roger Brown wrote:notyetagm wrote:http://www.chessbomb.com/embed/2014-tce ... fish-Jonny
Hello Jeffrey,
Isn't there an adage that if you sacrifice a rook and win the game, it is a brilliancy, but if you lose it is the worst blunder ever?
Later.
After rook sacrifice, give black side to SF and white side to a strong engine, say K8 (maybe Gull 3 or H4) and play several times from there.
This will bring some better understanding of the sacrifice. From that game continuation, white gets pawns + dynamic compensations and has a safer king, as told by Miguel.
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Re: Simply incredible Stockfish win in TCEC Season 7 Stage 2
Perhaps half an hour won't chase me away if it is an interesting game.shrapnel wrote:Yes, 1 Hour per side would be a reasonable compromise.
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Re: Simply incredible Stockfish win in TCEC Season 7 Stage 2
there are lots of short tournaments.Henk wrote:Perhaps half an hour won't chase me away if it is an interesting game.shrapnel wrote:Yes, 1 Hour per side would be a reasonable compromise.
I also think TCEC is too long to watch live, but I load TCEC website almost every day to see results and replay some games *as fast I wish*
And there is no need to ask nothing but thanks.
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Re: Simply incredible Stockfish win in TCEC Season 7 Stage 2
Maybe long time controls are fine if there would be a strong player giving live comments. Perhaps we need to program an avatar which does that.IGarcia wrote:there are lots of short tournaments.Henk wrote:Perhaps half an hour won't chase me away if it is an interesting game.shrapnel wrote:Yes, 1 Hour per side would be a reasonable compromise.
I also think TCEC is too long to watch live, but I load TCEC website almost every day to see results and replay some games *as fast I wish*
And there is no need to ask nothing but thanks.
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Re: Simply incredible Stockfish win in TCEC Season 7 Stage 2
It's an impressive game, but with the black King's rook stuck in the corner for most of the game, the difference in material wasn't an advantage for Jonny. Once Stockfish got its attack and piece activity going black was finished.
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