Jonny 8.0 tested by Ingo

[Paloma]

(Privat)-Version Jonny 8.0 in IPON List

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2016.07.06
Jonny 8.00 with an increase of 130 Elo over J7.01! This is a new No. 5 in the IRRRL! With this speed Jonny will pass 
everyone next year ;-). Impressive increase, amazing result.

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Jonny 7.01 has 2893 Elo in Ipon List so Jonny 8.00 will be 3023 Elo

[whereagles]

go go jonny go!

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Still a private engine though
Dr.D

[Vinvin]

In 1 year, SF and Komodo will be around 3300.
That still +300 Elo to do for Jonny.
May be 2 years is more reasonable to get in top 2.

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   # PLAYER              : RATING  ERROR     (%)    D(%)  OppAvg   CFS(next)    POINTS       W       D       L  PLAYED
   1 Komodo 10           :   3249     10   80.0%    31.0    2988     100        2640.0    2129    1022     149    3300
   2 Stockfish 7         :   3229     10   78.1%    38.4    2990     100        2577.0    1944    1266      90    3300
   3 Houdini 4           :   3114      9   65.0%    36.9    2997     100        2146.0    1537    1218     545    3300
   4 Gull 3              :   3064      8   58.5%    45.8    3001     100        1931.0    1175    1512     613    3300
   5 Jonny 8.00          :   3025      8   53.2%    44.5    3003      84        1756.5    1022    1469     809    3300

[fern]

Do not worry, dear doc; I just sent my Serbians to invite the author to a walk....

bang regards
Fern

[Werewolf]

Very interesting.

Now we can make some guesses as to how strong the cluster was. Given its 50x core advantage I'm estimating a speedup of 10x-20x (say 10x) over Komodo's hardware.

Which would make them about the same strength...

[IWB]

In 1 year, SF and Komodo will be around 3300.
That still +300 Elo to do for Jonny.
May be 2 years is more reasonable to get in top 2.

You are assuming a linear increase.

4 -> 5 -> 6 ~ 200 Elo
6 -> 7 ~ 100 Elo
7 -> 8 ~ 130 Elo

Jonnys development excels

Yes, that just a joke ... but you never know!

Ingo

[mjlef]

When I asked Johannes how much Jonny gained from a 24 core version on one machine to the full cluster of 2400 cores, he said about 350 elo. I do not know how much data he had (the cluster takes a lot of power), but that is what he said.

So elo gain from 1-24 core plus +350 would be the overall gain.

[JJJ]

When I asked Johannes how much Jonny gained from a 24 core version on one machine to the full cluster of 2400 cores, he said about 350 elo. I do not know how much data he had (the cluster takes a lot of power), but that is what he said.

So elo gain from 1-24 core plus +350 would be the overall gain.

And how strong played Komodo in 48 core compare to 24 core ?
What were the FIDE strenght of both engine in this tournament if you have to guess. I m summoning Kai !

[APassionForCriminalJustic]

In 1 year, SF and Komodo will be around 3300.
That still +300 Elo to do for Jonny.
May be 2 years is more reasonable to get in top 2.

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   # PLAYER              : RATING  ERROR     (%)    D(%)  OppAvg   CFS(next)    POINTS       W       D       L  PLAYED
   1 Komodo 10           :   3249     10   80.0%    31.0    2988     100        2640.0    2129    1022     149    3300
   2 Stockfish 7         :   3229     10   78.1%    38.4    2990     100        2577.0    1944    1266      90    3300
   3 Houdini 4           :   3114      9   65.0%    36.9    2997     100        2146.0    1537    1218     545    3300
   4 Gull 3              :   3064      8   58.5%    45.8    3001     100        1931.0    1175    1512     613    3300
   5 Jonny 8.00          :   3025      8   53.2%    44.5    3003      84        1756.5    1022    1469     809    3300

It is not like Komodo and Stockfish development are going to slowdown. Unless someone with serious skill(s) and programming talent comes around it will be hard-pressed to imagine seeing another engine effectively match the two present giants. There are definitely better engines out there to fight for the top five as opposed to Jonny. For instance, Houdart is making a comeback, Fire looks great, Andscacs is up and coming, etc,.

I'm not buying any of this Jonny stuff. Let's see.