Komodo 10.3

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Komodo 10.3

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I admit it is still early and more games need to be played. But congrats to Larry and Mark for regaining the top spot on the CCRL 40/40 list. I'm hoping the elo gain will be even larger than it is currently compared with the previous komodo version as more games are played. Especially since 10.2 got some strange results, I'm glad 10.3 has shown clear improvement on the lists that it is on (still waiting for several lists to put on Komodo 10.3).

Keep up the good work Larry and Mark.

Sincerely,

Tim.
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Top by +2 Elo, you'd better keeo your fingers crossed it doesn't lose that again with more games. What I think we can say is that Stockfish, Komodo and Houdini will be quite close once more games are played.
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Thanks. It is just 2 elo right now, but it is nice seeing the positive scores against both Stockfish 8 and Houdini 5.01. Error margins are huge still, but I hope this continues after many more games. And we are making good progress in our development versions too. Chess has more layers in "peeling its onion" than I thought. We have a lot more to learn.
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Nothing on Fire 5.0 ascent?
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Computer chess, once the drosophila of AI, is teaching all of us an important lesson.

Human level intelligence, although remarkably stable over centuries in studying chess is just a data point, very far from the still elusive top in the global scale of intelligence.

There is now inasmuch difference from Carlsen and the top programs running on commodity hardware than there is from Carlsen and the best players from your local club.

A quite humbling experience that will generalize progressively to all domains where humans were better or still are, e.g. lip reading now is done better and by quite a margin from a program rather than the best trained humans. Interesting times right ahead :roll:
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mjlef wrote:Thanks. It is just 2 elo right now, but it is nice seeing the positive scores against both Stockfish 8 and Houdini 5.01. Error margins are huge still, but I hope this continues after many more games. And we are making good progress in our development versions too. Chess has more layers in "peeling its onion" than I thought. We have a lot more to learn.
I m glad to read that.
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Modern Times wrote:Top by +2 Elo, you'd better keeo your fingers crossed it doesn't lose that again with more games. What I think we can say is that Stockfish, Komodo and Houdini will be quite close once more games are played.
Yes indeed. Like I said, more games need to be played. But I was just saying K 10.2 had strange list results so its nice to see something positive with K 10.3.

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Re: Komodo 10.3

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mjlef wrote:Thanks. It is just 2 elo right now, but it is nice seeing the positive scores against both Stockfish 8 and Houdini 5.01. Error margins are huge still, but I hope this continues after many more games. And we are making good progress in our development versions too. Chess has more layers in "peeling its onion" than I thought. We have a lot more to learn.
Yes a lot more to learn. As great as komodo is, one should never believe you have arrived and there is nothing left to improve. Keep up the good work on development version.

Tim.
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TShackel wrote:
mjlef wrote:Thanks. It is just 2 elo right now, but it is nice seeing the positive scores against both Stockfish 8 and Houdini 5.01. Error margins are huge still, but I hope this continues after many more games. And we are making good progress in our development versions too. Chess has more layers in "peeling its onion" than I thought. We have a lot more to learn.
Yes a lot more to learn. As great as komodo is, one should never believe you have arrived and there is nothing left to improve. Keep up the good work on development version.

Tim.
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Re: Komodo 10.3

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mjlef wrote:Thanks. It is just 2 elo right now, but it is nice seeing the positive scores against both Stockfish 8 and Houdini 5.01.
I'm not here to spoil anything but I see a score of 6-10 vs Houdini 5.01 (+0 -4 =12) which is negative.