Komodo 11.2.2 vs asmfish170806 with Noomen 20gambits

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beram
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Re: Game 37: GUI aborts another game prematurely

Post by beram » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:01 pm

Jeroen wrote:Just as things start to get really interesting, the GUI says.... "draw". My oh my, whay a pity.....

[pgn][Event "asmFish170806-K11.2.2, Rapid 15m+10s"]
[Site "AMD Ryzen 1800X"]
[Date "2017.08.10"]
[Round "27"]
[White "asmfishw_2017-08-06_popcnt"]
[Black "Komodo 11.2.2 64-bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A57"]
[Annotator "0.00;0.00"]
[PlyCount "32"]
[EventDate "2017.??.??"]
[EventType "rapid"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]

{AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Eight-Core Processor 3593 MHz W=37.5 plies; 17.551kN/s B=36.
3 plies; 13.823kN/s} 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. cxb5 a6 5. f3 e6 6. e4 exd5
7. e5 Qe7 8. Qe2 Ng8 9. Nc3 Bb7 10. Nh3 c4 {Beide laatste zet uit boek} 11. Nf4
{0.00/36 46} Qc5 {0.00/34 38} 12. Nfxd5 {0.00/37 14} Bxd5 {0.00/36 20} 13. Be3
{0.00/39 43} Qb4 {0.00/37 23} 14. a3 {0.00/34 5} Qa5 {0.00/37 19} 15. Bd2 {
0.00/39 38} Be6 {0.00/37 23} 16. Nd5 {0.00/40 6} c3 {0.00/37 26 (Da5-d8)
Remise aangenomen} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
A pity perhaps, but both engines and also Houdini 5 agree on and would play this forced drawing line I gave without comment
[pgn]
[Event "asmFish170806-K11.2.2, Rapid 15m+10s"]
[Site "AMD Ryzen 1800X"]
[Date "2017.08.10"]
[Round "27"]
[White "asmfishw_2017-08-06_popcnt"]
[Black "Komodo 11.2.2 64-bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A57"]
[Annotator "0.00;0.00"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rn2kbnr/3p1ppp/p3b3/qP1NP3/8/P1p2P2/1P1BQ1PP/R3KB1R w KQkq - 0 17"]
[PlyCount "12"]
[EventDate "2017.??.??"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]

{AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Eight-Core Processor 3593 MHz W=37.5 plies; 17.551kN/s B=36.
3 plies; 13.823kN/s} 17. Bxc3 Qd8 18. Qc4 Ra7 19. Qd4 Ra8 20. Qc4 Ra7 21. Qd4
Ra8 22. Qc4 Ra7 1/2-1/2
[/pgn]

Jeroen
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Re: Game 40: last game ends in a draw, Stockfish wins 5-1

Post by Jeroen » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:52 pm

Yeah, but 85% draws..... That is most amazing! One would expect a lot more wins using such gambits.

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Re: Game 37: GUI aborts another game prematurely

Post by Jeroen » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:55 pm

Aha, OK. If you need a draw in a complex position, leave it to the top engines :wink:

Any chance of a King's gambit match using my new King's gambit suite!? I am sure that one will be at least as entertaining as this gambit match!

beram
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Re: Game 37: GUI aborts another game prematurely

Post by beram » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:23 pm

Jeroen wrote:Aha, OK. If you need a draw in a complex position, leave it to the top engines :wink:

Any chance of a King's gambit match using my new King's gambit suite!? I am sure that one will be at least as entertaining as this gambit match!
Yes i agree, the engines are way to clever for us besides for some who are living in their own parallel world :wink:

First match TC 3m2s 2cpu with kings gambit has started on my laptop and believe it or not still 34draws (63%) +10 -10 =34 after 54 games with asmfish170810 and Komodo 11.2.2

Jeroen
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Re: Game 37: GUI aborts another game prematurely

Post by Jeroen » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:59 pm

First match TC 3m2s 2cpu with kings gambit has started on my laptop and believe it or not still 34draws (63%) +10 -10 =34 after 54 games with asmfish170810 and Komodo 11.2.2
At least 63% draws is less 'bad' than the 85% in the Twenty gambits match ;-).

Did this match already conclude? I am curious about the result.

beram
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Re: Game 37: GUI aborts another game prematurely

Post by beram » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:46 pm

Jeroen wrote:
First match TC 3m2s 2cpu with kings gambit has started on my laptop and believe it or not still 34draws (63%) +10 -10 =34 after 54 games with asmfish170810 and Komodo 11.2.2
At least 63% draws is less 'bad' than the 85% in the Twenty gambits match ;-).

Did this match already conclude? I am curious about the result.
Result was a small win +21 -18 =61 for asmfish170810
I am now running a same match wit the ultimaq compile
games will follow later

beram
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Re: Game 37: GUI aborts another game prematurely

Post by beram » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:07 pm

beram wrote:
Jeroen wrote:
First match TC 3m2s 2cpu with kings gambit has started on my laptop and believe it or not still 34draws (63%) +10 -10 =34 after 54 games with asmfish170810 and Komodo 11.2.2
At least 63% draws is less 'bad' than the 85% in the Twenty gambits match ;-).

Did this match already conclude? I am curious about the result.
Result was a small win +21 -18 =61 for asmfish170810
I am now running a same match wit the ultimaq compile
games will follow later
Second match with Stockfish 170811 ultimaq compile has ended +22 -18 =60 for Stockfish
First match 61% draws second match 60% two rather close matches with many discutable games
I gave a short win for Komodo with black, where Stockfish takes a forbidden rook with 11 Nc7+ and is soon lost. Nice game

games link https://we.tl/kCMrUjhhoq

[pgn]
[Event "K1122 - asmfish170810 2x, Blitz 3m+2s"]
[Site "I5-4200M @2500Mhz (Fritzmark4"]
[Date "2017.08.13"]
[Round "12"]
[White "Stockfish 110817 64 BMI2"]
[Black "Komodo 11.2.2 64-bit"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C39"]
[Annotator "0.00;0.00"]
[PlyCount "66"]
[TimeControl "180+2"]

{Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4200M CPU @ 2.50GHz 2494 MHz W=26.5 plies; 3.156kN/s
B=23.6 plies; 3.201kN/s} 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. h4 g4 5. Ne5 d6 6.
Nxg4 Nf6 7. Nxf6+ Qxf6 8. Nc3 Nc6 9. Nd5 {Both last book move} Qg7 {[%eval 0,
23] [%emt 0:00:15]} 10. d3 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:09]} Nb4 {[%eval 0,25]
[%emt 0:00:10]} 11. Nxc7+ $2 {[%eval 0,27] [%emt 0:00:05] this move looses
quickly but Stockfish finds it hard to detect} (11. Nxb4 Qg3+ 12. Kd2 Qe3+ 13.
Kc3 Bg7+ 14. Kb3 Qb6 15. Qd2 a5 16. a4) ({asmFishW_2017-08-10_bmi2:} 11. Nxc7+
Kd8 12. Nxa8 Qg3+ 13. Kd2 Qe3+ 14. Kc3 Qc5+ 15. Kd2 Qe3+ {[%eval 0,37]}) (11.
Qe2 Qg3+ 12. Kd1 Nxd5 13. exd5+ Be7 14. Qe4 Bg4+ 15. Be2 f5 16. Bxf4 fxe4 17.
Bxg3 Rg8 18. Bf4 exd3 19. Bxg4 Rxg4 20. g3 dxc2+ 21. Kxc2 Kd7 22. Raf1) 11...
Kd8 {[%eval 0,26] [%emt 0:00:07]} 12. Nxa8 {[%eval 0,30] [%emt 0:00:01]} Qg3+ {
[%eval -111,21] [%emt 0:00:03]} 13. Kd2 {[%eval 0,33] [%emt 0:00:07]} Qe3+ {
[%eval -175,23] [%emt 0:00:09]} 14. Kc3 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qc5+ {
[%eval -256,22] [%emt 0:00:10]} 15. Kd2 {[%eval 0,35] [%emt 0:00:05] (Kb3)} Rg8
$3 $17 {[%eval -269,23] [%emt 0:00:07] (Qe3+)} 16. c4 {[%eval 49,23] [%emt 0:
00:04] (a3)} Rg3 $19 {[%eval -224,22] [%emt 0:00:04] (Qd4)} 17. a3 {[%eval
-400,26] [%emt 0:00:26]} Bg4 {[%eval -332,25] [%emt 0:00:16]} 18. Be2 {[%eval
-470,28] [%emt 0:00:25] (Qxg4)} Rxg2 {[%eval -428,23] [%emt 0:00:11]} 19. axb4
{[%eval -495,25] [%emt 0:00:02]} Qxb4+ {[%eval -432,23] [%emt 0:00:04]} 20. Kc2
{[%eval -495,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxe2 {[%eval -465,24] [%emt 0:00:16]} 21. Qd2 {
[%eval -496,28] [%emt 0:00:05]} Bxd3+ {[%eval -492,25] [%emt 0:00:09]} 22. Kxd3
{[%eval -505,23] [%emt 0:00:01]} Qb3+ {[%eval -506,26] [%emt 0:00:14]} 23. Qc3
{[%eval -522,28] [%emt 0:00:12]} Rg3+ {[%eval -513,24] [%emt 0:00:04]} 24. Kd2
{[%eval -509,23] [%emt 0:00:01]} Rxc3 {[%eval -523,25] [%emt 0:00:15]} 25. bxc3
{[%eval -527,26] [%emt 0:00:11]} Qxc4 {[%eval -528,26] [%emt 0:00:13]} 26. Ba3
{[%eval -565,27] [%emt 0:00:14]} f3 {[%eval -535,23] [%emt 0:00:05]} 27. Kc2 {
[%eval -616,28] [%emt 0:00:10]} Qxe4+ {[%eval -541,24] [%emt 0:00:08]} 28. Kb3
{[%eval -627,25] [%emt 0:00:03] (Kb2)} Qd5+ {[%eval -552,23] [%emt 0:00:04]
(Qe6+)} 29. Kb2 {[%eval -598,22] [%emt 0:00:04]} Qb5+ {[%eval -540,24] [%emt 0:
00:13]} 30. Bb4 {[%eval -614,22] [%emt 0:00:01]} f2 {[%eval -546,21] [%emt 0:
00:02]} 31. Kc2 {[%eval -680,26] [%emt 0:00:30]} Kc8 {[%eval -590,22] [%emt 0:
00:03]} 32. Rhd1 {[%eval -686,26] [%emt 0:00:11]} Qe2+ {[%eval -608,22] [%emt
0:00:02]} 33. Kb3 {[%eval -719,27] [%emt 0:00:15]} Qe6+ {[%eval -634,25] [%emt
0:00:06]} 0-1
[/pgn]

Jeroen
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Re: Game 37: GUI aborts another game prematurely

Post by Jeroen » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:31 pm

Hi Bram,

Thanks for these matches and the games. I will take a look at them later.

beram
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Re: Game 37: GUI aborts another game prematurely

Post by beram » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:45 am

Jeroen wrote:Hi Bram,

Thanks for these matches and the games. I will take a look at them later.
I played another match this time on the AMD Ryzen 1800, 14threads same TC 3m 2s (where games reach two ply deeper on average than on the I5 4200 2t)
Draw percentage now 71% and a +20 -9 =71 win for Stockfish170811ultimaq compile
Games link https://we.tl/940qu1UJos

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SF170811uq-K11.2.2, Blitz 3m+2s                                       
1   Stockfish 110817 64 POPCNT   +38  +20/=71/-9 55.50%   55.5/100
2   Komodo 11.2.2 64-bit         -38  +9/=71/-20 44.50%   44.5/100
In game 11 and 13 Stockfish looses quickly after the wrong materialistic Nxc7 followed by Nxa8 in these position after 11 moves. Komodo does better and avoids and plays Nf6+ and Kc3 which leaves white about equal
[D] r1b1kb1r/ppp2p1p/3p4/3N4/1n2Pp1P/3P2q1/PPPK2P1/R1BQ1B1R w kq - 0 12

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Re: Game 37: GUI aborts another game prematurely

Post by Jeroen » Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:13 pm

Thanks again, Bram!

Lots of interesting - and sometimes even crazy - games. But a 71% draw rate in the King's gambit..... That is really a big surprise!

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