TCEC should reconsider the ban on Ethereal

Fuddur · Post by **Fuddur** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:16 am

Great! Ethereal is back.
Now, in tcec s13,

ETHEREAL RAMPAGE IS ABOUT TO BEGINNNNNNNN.

Gary Internet · Post by **Gary Internet** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:29 am

I don't know anything about what happened but I'm guessing that Knight_Moves was the one trying to ban Andrew Grant because this morning when I go to the TCEC website I'm confronted with the crappy old GUI. Knight_Moves is obviously protesting against his decision being overturned by leaving and taking his GUI with him. It's sad that TCEC still suffers to some degree. That new GUI had dragged it kicking and screaming into this decade.

AndrewGrant · Post by **AndrewGrant** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:04 am

You would be correct about your guess.

Joerg Oster · Post by **Joerg Oster** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:27 am

Gary Internet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:29 am I don't know anything about what happened but I'm guessing that Knight_Moves was the one trying to ban Andrew Grant because this morning when I go to the TCEC website I'm confronted with the crappy old GUI. Knight_Moves is obviously protesting against his decision being overturned by leaving and taking his GUI with him. It's sad that TCEC still suffers to some degree. That new GUI had dragged it kicking and screaming into this decade.

What a kindergarten over there ...

gotogo · Post by **gotogo** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:41 pm

Doesn't Andrew work on stockfish? Could he introduce a bug or something into stockfish promoting his own engine? Doesn't seem right he has own engine and works on stockfish too!!! I for one am very skeptical over this one! Conflict of interest? Is he working with other developers on fishtest? Is he using fishtest resources to modify his engine? There is many ways to look at what might be going on here! I think something crooked here!!! Maybe tcec 13 not so good!

Guenther · Post by **Guenther** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:57 pm

gotogo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:41 pm Doesn't Andrew work on stockfish? Could he introduce a bug or something into stockfish promoting his own engine? Doesn't seem right he has own engine and works on stockfish too!!! I for one am very skeptical over this one! Conflict of interest? Is he working with other developers on fishtest? Is he using fishtest resources to modify his engine? There is many ways to look at what might be going on here! I think something crooked here!!! Maybe tcec 13 not so good!

You don't mean this serious, eh? Somehow I have the feeling I need to fresh up my *ignore* list.

Albert Silver · Post by **Albert Silver** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:49 pm

Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:57 pm
gotogo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:41 pm Doesn't Andrew work on stockfish? Could he introduce a bug or something into stockfish promoting his own engine? Doesn't seem right he has own engine and works on stockfish too!!! I for one am very skeptical over this one! Conflict of interest? Is he working with other developers on fishtest? Is he using fishtest resources to modify his engine? There is many ways to look at what might be going on here! I think something crooked here!!! Maybe tcec 13 not so good!
You don't mean this serious, eh? Somehow I have the feeling I need to fresh up my *ignore* list.

+1

tpoppins · Post by **tpoppins** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:59 pm

gotogo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:41 pm Doesn't Andrew work on stockfish? Could he introduce a bug or something into stockfish promoting his own engine? Doesn't seem right he has own engine and works on stockfish too!!! I for one am very skeptical over this one! Conflict of interest? Is he working with other developers on fishtest? Is he using fishtest resources to modify his engine? There is many ways to look at what might be going on here! I think something crooked here!!! Maybe tcec 13 not so good!

Amazingly perceptive observations. Let's not forget Lucas B. too, the author of Discocheck and Demolito, who's been a main SF contributor for years. No wonder that despite being developed for a decade Stockfish is still a mere 3400 Elo -- it's been sabotaged almost from the start. It could have been over 9000!

syzygy · Post by **syzygy** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:42 pm

Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:57 pm
gotogo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:41 pm Doesn't Andrew work on stockfish? Could he introduce a bug or something into stockfish promoting his own engine? Doesn't seem right he has own engine and works on stockfish too!!! I for one am very skeptical over this one! Conflict of interest? Is he working with other developers on fishtest? Is he using fishtest resources to modify his engine? There is many ways to look at what might be going on here! I think something crooked here!!! Maybe tcec 13 not so good!
You don't mean this serious, eh? Somehow I have the feeling I need to fresh up my *ignore* list.

Where are trigger-happy moderators when you need them

hgm · Post by **hgm** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:48 pm

At the WCCC? Normally moderators would only see postings that are reported, and they would only act against those when these violate the charter.

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