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Guenther
Posts: 4605Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:33 amLocation: Regensburg, GermanyFull name: Guenther Simon
Post by Guenther Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:29 pm
AdminX wrote: ↑ Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:07 pm
After a little bit ( 5 Min) of probing their HTML code, I found a temp solution to the problem.
Grab it from here:
https://newman.chess.com/games.pgn
PS:
Pro Tip: If you use the non secure version of the link
http://newman.chess.com/games.pgn it will also work in Hiarcs Chess Explorer and you can then use your favorite engine to analyze the current game while it is in progress.
If someone is interested...
Stripped off the PV and added a round number in nice looking column style (example below)
Unterminated games included! (Games 1-59 +5* unterminated)
[pgn][Event "CCCC 1: Rapid Rumble Stage 1"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2018.08.31"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Andscacs 0.94"]
[Black "Xiphos 0.3.17"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "3244"]
[BlackElo "3041"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[ECO "C50"]
[Opening "Giuoco Pianissimo"]
[TimeControl "900+5"]
[Time "13:10:27"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "216"]
[Event "CCCC 1: Rapid Rumble Stage 1"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2018.08.31"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Andscacs 0.94"]
[Black "Xiphos 0.3.17"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "3244"]
[BlackElo "3041"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[ECO "C50"]
[Opening "Giuoco Pianissimo"]
[TimeControl "900+5"]
[Time "13:10:27"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "216"]
1. e4 {+0.27/30 70}
1... e5 {-0.15/29 62}
2. Nf3 {+0.27/29 1}
2... Nc6 {-0.29/27 63}
3. Bc4 {+0.27/29 1}
3... Bc5 {-0.27/28 58}
4. d3 {+0.28/27 31}
4... Nf6 {-0.23/27 23}
5. c3 {+0.28/27 28}
5... a5 {-0.25/27 124}
6. O-O {+0.28/27 0}
6... d6 {-0.22/27 69}
7. a4 {+0.28/27 17}
7... h6 {-0.13/24 16}
8. Be3 {+0.34/27 43}
8... Bxe3 {0.00/28 16}
9. fxe3 {+0.32/27 18}
9... O-O {0.00/31 12}
10. Nbd2 {+0.30/27 56}
10... Ne7 {-0.06/29 59}
11. Qe1 {+0.29/25 35}
11... b6 {-0.13/27 80}
12. Nh4 {+0.37/26 30}
12... Qd7 {-0.06/29 54}
13. Rf3 {+0.37/25 59}
13... c6 {-0.04/25 29}
14. Bb3 {+0.32/26 56}
14... Kh7 {-0.06/26 5}
15. d4 {+0.35/27 64}
15... b5 {-0.02/24 48}
16. axb5 {+0.73/23 28}
16... cxb5 {0.00/26 24}
17. Qf1 {+0.21/24 3}
17... a4 {+0.09/26 9}
18. Rxf6 {+0.21/23 16}
18... gxf6 {+0.27/28 11}
19. Qxf6 {+0.21/24 11}
19... Ng8 {+0.16/28 20}
20. Qf1 {+0.21/24 6}
20... Rb8 {+0.27/22 12}
21. Bc2 {+0.21/27 62}
21... Ne7 {+0.26/23 14}
22. Qf2 {+0.30/24 52}
22... Qg4 {+0.30/27 13}
23. Bd3 {+0.30/25 29}
23... Bd7 {+0.36/24 8}
24. Ndf3 {+0.01/27 10}
24... f6 {+0.50/22 11}
25. Rc1 {+0.01/25 26}
25... Rfc8 {+0.71/24 8}
26. Qd2 {-0.01/23 4}
26... Rc7 {+0.66/23 7}
27. Qe1 {+0.01/24 36}
27... Ra8 {+0.92/24 19}
28. Qf2 {-0.45/22 32}
28... b4 {+1.30/23 11}
29. c4 {-0.68/21 16}
29... a3 {+1.24/23 1}
30. Rb1 {-0.77/21 9}
30... a2 {+1.91/27 8}
31. Ra1 {-0.78/23 10}
31... b3 {+2.15/27 16}
32. Nd2 {-0.66/27 1}
32... Rb7 {+2.20/27 4}
33. Be2 {-0.77/28 20}
33... Qg7 {+2.23/27 9}
34. Bd1 {-0.67/28 1}
34... Ba4 {+2.30/28 6}
35. h3 {-0.67/28 1}
35... Rg8 {+2.29/28 18}
36. Kh2 {-0.68/27 13}
36... Rb4 {+2.12/25 10}
37. Bg4 {-0.70/26 10}
37... Rd8 {+2.12/28 0}
38. d5 {-0.70/26 12}
38... Rb7 {+2.12/29 28}
39. Be2 {-0.70/26 9}
39... Kh8 {+2.06/29 5}
40. Bd1 {-0.70/28 12}
40... Rc8 {+2.04/31 3}
41. Bh5 {-0.72/25 8}
41... Rg8 {+2.03/30 14}
42. Bg4 {-0.70/28 10}
42... Rb4 {+2.03/29 19}
43. Qe1 {-0.71/27 9}
43... Rgb8 {+2.01/27 11}
44. Qe2 {-0.69/26 11}
44... R4b7 {+2.00/28 7}
45. Qf2 {-0.70/28 2}
45... Ra7 {+2.00/28 2}
46. Qe1 {-0.65/27 10}
46... Rc7 {+1.99/28 23}
47. Qf2 {-0.65/27 0}
47... Kh7 {+1.99/27 3}
48. Bh5 {-0.64/27 10}
48... Rb6 {+1.98/27 5}
49. Bd1 {-0.66/26 9}
49... Ra7 {+1.96/26 17}
50. Bg4 {-0.66/25 24}
50... Rb8 {+1.94/29 6}
51. Bd1 {-0.64/26 5}
51... Kg8 {+1.94/29 1}
52. Bg4 {-0.65/26 7}
52... Rc7 {+1.93/29 5}
53. Qe1 {-0.64/27 7}
53... Kh7 {+1.93/28 6}
54. Qf2 {-0.64/27 3}
54... Rb4 {+1.93/27 0}
55. Qf1 {-0.64/26 19}
55... Kh8 {+1.93/25 10}
56. Qd3 {-0.57/26 14}
56... Qg8 {+1.92/26 0}
57. Qc3 {-0.57/25 6}
57... Qb8 {+1.95/29 6}
58. Qd3 {-0.57/25 1}
58... Kh7 {+1.93/29 4}
59. Qf1 {-0.56/27 11}
59... Qf8 {+1.93/29 3}
60. Bh5 {-0.56/27 3}
60... Rb6 {+1.91/26 8}
61. Bd1 {-0.58/26 9}
61... Ra7 {+1.90/27 14}
62. Qd3 {-0.57/25 6}
62... Rab7 {+1.90/25 8}
63. Bg4 {-0.58/26 1}
63... Kh8 {+1.89/26 8}
64. c5 {-0.40/23 7}
64... dxc5 {+2.09/28 3}
65. Nc4 {-0.03/24 2}
65... Rb4 {+2.00/26 4}
66. d6 {-0.52/25 10}
66... Qd8 {+2.17/30 0}
67. Be6 {-0.48/24 9}
67... Ng8 {+2.02/29 1}
68. Qd1 {+0.01/22 12}
68... Be8 {+2.25/30 12}
69. Nf5 {+0.01/22 0}
69... Bd7 {+2.19/28 9}
70. Bd5 {+0.01/24 2}
70... Ra7 {+2.04/25 1}
71. Qg4 {-0.56/21 8}
71... Qf8 {+2.31/27 4}
72. Qh4 {-0.56/23 0}
72... Rb8 {+2.29/26 3}
73. Kh1 {-0.76/24 9}
73... Ra4 {+2.24/21 5}
74. Qg3 {-0.68/26 2}
74... Rbb4 {+2.37/28 7}
75. Nd2 {-0.30/21 6}
75... c4 {+2.47/28 2}
76. Nh4 {-0.92/24 10}
76... Qg7 {+2.53/30 0}
77. Qe1 {-1.07/24 10}
77... Be8 {+2.60/29 0}
78. Qd1 {-0.30/19 9}
78... Qd7 {+3.39/29 4}
79. Nf5 {-2.20/20 4}
79... Bf7 {+4.08/29 6}
80. Bc6 {-2.20/20 2}
80... Qxc6 {+4.69/31 1}
81. Qg4 {-3.02/22 7}
81... Bg6 {+5.10/36 5}
82. Qxg6 {-3.48/21 2}
82... Rb7 {+4.97/37 1}
83. Nxh6 {-3.42/21 7}
83... Nxh6 {+5.42/34 6}
84. Qxh6+ {-3.42/21 1}
84... Kg8 {+5.32/34 12}
85. Qxf6 {-3.42/21 0}
85... Qe8 {+5.95/32 9}
86. Nb1 {-3.42/21 1}
86... Rd7 {+6.00/32 2}
87. Nc3 {-3.24/24 12}
87... Ra6 {+6.25/36 0}
88. Qg5+ {-3.76/21 9}
88... Rg7 {+8.51/29 9}
89. Qf6 {-3.76/21 0}
89... Qg6 {+8.99/27 3}
90. Qd8+ {-3.76/21 6}
90... Kh7 {+10.03/28 4}
91. Qh4+ {-3.76/21 4}
91... Qh6 {+11.38/29 5}
92. Qe1 {-6.65/23 4}
92... Rxd6 {+14.25/30 4}
93. Nxa2 {-6.65/23 5}
93... Qg6 {+17.14/29 2}
94. Qf2 {-10.49/24 7}
94... Rf6 {+20.17/34 13}
95. Qe2 {-10.49/24 0}
95... Ra6 {+25.92/30 9}
96. Rg1 {-10.49/24 1}
96... bxa2 {+207.99/26 8}
97. Ra1 {-20.95/25 3}
97... Qxe4 {+215.17/27 2}
98. Kh2 {-67.32/25 10}
98... Qh4 {+M11/23 0}
99. Qc2+ {-18.51/22 11}
99... e4 {+M9/23 3}
100. Kg1 {-21.89/23 10}
100... Rf6 {+M8/24 4}
101. Rd1 {-M12/22 9}
101... Rf3 {+M7/32 0}
102. Kh1 {-M7/21 7}
102... Rf2 {+M6/49 0}
103. Qxf2 {-M7/21 2}
103... Qxf2 {+M6/49 0}
104. g4 {-M7/21 6}
104... Qf3+ {+M6/49 0}
105. Kh2 {-M4/50 2}
105... Qxd1 {+M6/49 0}
106. b4 {-M3/127 2}
106... Qf3 {+M2/99 1}
107. h4 {-M3/127 0}
107... Qxg4 {+M1/99 2}
108. b5 Qxh4# {+M0/99 3}[/pgn]
Code: Select all
1. e4 {+0.27/30 70}
1... e5 {-0.15/29 62}
2. Nf3 {+0.27/29 1}
2... Nc6 {-0.29/27 63}
3. Bc4 {+0.27/29 1}
3... Bc5 {-0.27/28 58}
4. d3 {+0.28/27 31}
4... Nf6 {-0.23/27 23}
5. c3 {+0.28/27 28}
5... a5 {-0.25/27 124}
6. O-O {+0.28/27 0}
6... d6 {-0.22/27 69}
sovaz1997
Posts: 261Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:37 am
Post by sovaz1997 Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:18 pm
Against the LS0, the engines have almost 2x-acceleration due to the combination of HT and Ponder.
Ethereal have ~55 mnps vs Stockfish and ~90 mnps vs Lc0:
AdminX
Posts: 6339Joined: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:34 pmLocation: Acworth, GA
Post by AdminX Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:30 pm
I was not surprised here. Most others saw it coming too. Kingscrusher is sure to do a video on this game.
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
zenpawn
Posts: 349Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:31 pmLocation: United States
Post by zenpawn Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:58 pm
This is the Semi-Slav, Anti-Meran, Lilienthal Variation (
https://www.365chess.com/eco/D44_Queen% ... _variation ). It's amazing they came up with all this on their own. According to my admittedly outdated database, the first new move was 18.h4, where previously Bxh6 had been played in a 2013 ICCF game which was ultimately drawn.
Erin Dame
Nay Lin Tun
Posts: 708Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:34 am
Post by Nay Lin Tun Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:47 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote: ↑ Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:47 am
In September 3, 2018, chess.com will be hosting their computer chess championship for this year. There are a lot of background factors that favor Leela to be able to fight for No 1 vs the best AB engine , Stockfish. Of course, if you recently saw Leela performance in TCEC Division 3, this post will be a big joke( But in bonus games, she draw all 9 games vs Stockfish 8 and Ethereal).
Improvement factors/favoring factors for Leela,
1. 4x V 100 for Leela vs 48 cores ( GPU/CPU ratio will be 3.6 times in favor for Leela than TCEC, approximately + 90 elo)
2. Newer ID are already stronger than 520 (at least +50 elo)
3. Leela will have Tablebase support (possibly +20 elo)
As latest version of stockfish is only 100 elo stronger than stockfish 8, Leela will be in more favour if she can effectively use 4x V100 and Tablebases.
https://www.chess.com/computer-chess-championship
As expected/predicted, she is doing so far so good.
Currently in top 3, fighting for no 1, of course.
JJJ
Posts: 1346Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:47 pm
Post by JJJ Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:48 am
She plays Stockfish the next game.
jp
Posts: 1470Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:54 am
Post by jp Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:51 am
lc0-SF will end in a draw.
zullil
Posts: 6442Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:31 amLocation: PA USAFull name: Louis Zulli
Post by zullil Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:29 am
jp wrote: ↑ Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:51 am
lc0-SF will end in a draw.
SF has shown 0.00 from move 24.
Now move 140.
Maybe adjudication has some merits.
At least the time control is short.
[pgn][Event "CCCC 1: Rapid Rumble (15|5) Stage 1"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2018.09.03"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Lc0 17.11089"]
[Black "Stockfish 220818"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "3300"]
[BlackElo "3144"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[ECO "E19"]
[Opening "Queen's Indian"]
[Variation "old main line, 9.Qxc3"]
[TimeControl "900+5"]
[Time "03:56:30"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "412"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. g3 Bb7 5. Bg2 Be7 6. O-O O-O 7. Nc3 Ne4 8. Qd3
Nxc3 9. Qxc3 d6 10. Qd3 f5 11. Qe3 Qc8 12. b4 Bf6 13. Bd2 e5 14. dxe5 dxe5 15.
Rac1 Nc6 16. b5 Nd4 17. Nxd4 Bxg2 18. Kxg2 exd4 19. Qf3 Qe6 20. a4 c5 21. bxc6
Rac8 22. c5 Rxc6 23. cxb6 Rxb6 24. Rc5 Re8 25. e3 Rb2 26. Bc1 Ra2 27. exd4 Bxd4
28. Rxf5 Bb6 29. Rf4 h6 30. h4 a5 31. Qb7 Kh7 32. Rf7 Bd4 33. Qd7 Qxd7 34. Rxd7
Rxa4 35. Rd1 Bf6 36. Be3 Ra2 37. Kf3 Re7 38. R7d6 Rf7 39. Kg4 a4 40. Ra6 Rc7 41.
Rd5 a3 42. h5 Be7 43. Ra8 Rac2 44. Re5 R2c4+ 45. Kh3 Rc2 46. Re6 R2c6 47. Re5
Rc2 48. Bb6 Rd7 49. Kg4 a2 50. Rea5 Rb7 51. Be3 Rb4+ 52. Kf3 Rbb2 53. Re8 Bd6
54. Raa8 Rb8 55. Rexb8 Bxb8 56. Bd4 Bd6 57. Ke3 Bc5 58. Bxc5 Rxc5 59. g4 Rc2 60.
f3 Rc3+ 61. Ke2 Rc2+ 62. Kd3 Rg2 63. Ke3 Rh2 64. Ra6 Kg8 65. Ra7 Kh7 66. Ra8 g5
67. Ra7+ Kh8 68. Kd4 Kg8 69. Ke5 Kh8 70. Kf6 Re2 71. Ra6 Kh7 72. Ra7+ Kg8 73.
Kg6 Re6+ 74. Kf5 Re2 75. Kf6 Kh8 76. Kg6 Re6+ 77. Kf5 Re2 78. Kg6 Re6+ 79. Kf7
Re2 80. Ra6 Kh7 81. Ra7 Kh8 82. Kf6 Kg8 83. Ra6 Kh7 84. Ra4 Rd2 85. Ra7+ Kg8 86.
Kg6 Rd6+ 87. Kf5 Rd2 88. Ra3 Kg7 89. Ra6 Kh7 90. Ra8 Re2 91. Kf6 Rd2 92. Ra4 Kg8
93. Kg6 Rd6+ 94. Kf5 Rd2 95. Kf6 Kh8 96. Kg6 Rd6+ 97. Kf5 Rd5+ 98. Kf6 Rd6+ 99.
Ke5 Rd2 100. Ra7 Re2+ 101. Kf5 Kg8 102. f4 gxf4 103. Kxf4 Rg2 104. Kf3 Rc2 105.
Ke4 Kh8 106. Ke3 Kg8 107. Kf3 Kf8 108. Kf4 Re2 109. Kf3 Rc2 110. Kg3 Kg8 111.
Kf4 Rh2 112. Kf5 Kf8 113. Kf6 Rf2+ 114. Kg6 Rg2 115. Kh7 Rxg4 116. Rxa2 Rg7+
117. Kxh6 Rb7 118. Rg2 Rf7 119. Rg5 Rf6+ 120. Kh7 Rf1 121. Rg7 Rf2 122. h6 Rf6
123. Rg1 Rf2 124. Ra1 Kf7 125. Ra3 Rf1 126. Ra2 Rf3 127. Ra7+ Kf6 128. Ra6+ Kf7
129. Ra2 Kf6 130. Ra6+ Kf7 131. Ra7+ Kf6 132. Kg8 Rb3 133. Ra8 Ke7 134. Ra2 Kf6
135. Ra6+ Kg5 136. Kh8 Rb4 137. Kg7 Rb7+ 138. Kh8 Re7 139. h7 Rb7 140. Re6 Kf5
141. Rh6 Kg5 142. Re6 Kf5 143. Rd6 Kg5 144. Rd2 Kh6 145. Rd6+ Kg5 146. Ra6 Rb8+
147. Kg7 Rb7+ 148. Kg8 Rb8+ 149. Kf7 Rb7+ 150. Kg8 Rb8+ 151. Kf7 Rb7+ 152. Ke6
Rb8 153. Ra1 Kg6 154. Rh1 Re8+ 155. Kd6 Kg7 156. Kd7 Rh8 157. Ke7 Rxh7 158. Rg1+
Kh8+ 159. Kf6 Rh2 160. Kg6 Ra2 161. Rc1 Rg2+ 162. Kf7 Rf2+ 163. Kg6 Rg2+ 164.
Kf6 Ra2 165. Rc7 Ra1 166. Kg6 Rg1+ 167. Kf6 Ra1 168. Rb7 Rc1 169. Kg6 Rg1+ 170.
Kf6 Ra1 171. Kg6 Rg1+ 172. Kf6 Ra1 173. Rc7 Rb1 174. Ra7 Rc1 175. Kg6 Rg1+ 176.
Kf6 Rb1 177. Kg6 Rg1+ 178. Kf6 Rb1 179. Ra3 Rc1 180. Kf7 Rf1+ 181. Kg6 Rg1+ 182.
Kf7 Rf1+ 183. Kg6 Rg1+ 184. Kf6 Rb1 185. Rf3 Ra1 186. Kf7 Rh1 187. Kg6 Rg1+ 188.
Kf7 Rh1 189. Rf5 Rh2 190. Rf1 Rh3 191. Re1 Rh2 192. Kg6 Rg2+ 193. Kf7 Rf2+ 194.
Kg6 Rg2+ 195. Kf6 Ra2 196. Re3 Ra1 197. Kg6 Rg1+ 198. Kf7 Rf1+ 199. Kg6 Rg1+
200. Kf6 Ra1 201. Re5 Rb1 202. Kf7 Rf1+ 203. Kg6 Rg1+ 204. Kf6 Ra1 205. Re3 Rb1
206. Kg6 Rg1+ 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
Werewolf
Posts: 1795Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:24 pm
Post by Werewolf Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:15 pm
Milos wrote: ↑ Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:22 pm
To me this looks like 15-25% when going from 2 to 4xV100.
And going from 1 to 2 V100 ?
Can someone tell me, does anything need to be changed in the setup of Lc0 to run on two graphics cards or does it recognise them automatically?
With the new Nvidia crop on the way I'm wondering if two cheaper cards may be faster.
crem
Posts: 177Joined: Wed May 23, 2018 9:29 pm
Post by crem Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:22 pm
Werewolf wrote: ↑ Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:15 pm
Can someone tell me, does anything need to be changed in the setup of Lc0 to run on two graphics cards or does it recognise them automatically?
Add this to a command line:
Code: Select all
--backend=multiplexing "--backend-opts=(backend=cudnn,gpu=0),(backend=cudnn,gpu=1)"
At least the time control is short.