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RubiChess
Posts: 588 Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:20 am
Full name: Andreas Matthies
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by RubiChess » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:59 pm
Guenther wrote: ↑ Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:08 pm
Thanks! I will try it, but so far I did not find how to find that time graph option?
I downloaded Scid 4.64 and also found nothing in the help file.
Same here. Maybe squid only offers this time graph if it can read "valid" (from Scids point of view) time data in the pgn and we have to fix the source first to make it read cutechess time data.
ChessGUI also shows some time graph within the eval graph but its quite ugly.
Anyway, thanks all for the info.
Andreas
casaschi
Posts: 164 Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:57 pm
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by casaschi » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:06 pm
Guenther wrote: ↑ Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:02 pm
Can it read standard pgn for this, because the screenshot only shows ugly CB style pgn for time? '[%clk ...]'
What do you mean with "standard pgn"?
The '[%clk ...]' syntax is
THE standard for storing time information in a pgn file , I'm not aware of any other published standards.
Guenther
Posts: 4611 Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:33 am
Location: Regensburg, Germany
Full name: Guenther Simon
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by Guenther » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:53 am
Well, I know meanwhile it is a pgn extension especially due to DGT clocks, but the original goal of pgn was to be also being easily readable
for Humans and I often read pgn games w/o any board.
I really don't understand why it was needed to add so much chars and extra brackets just for parsing clock time.
A 'standard' pgn for me (and Andreas and most others here) looks like this:
(only difference in giving 's' for seconds in cutechess/cutechess-cli and omitting it in other GUIs,
and that WB is capable to give accumulated rest time instead, if enabled during game play)
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[Event "CuteTest"]
[Site "RWBC"]
[Date "2014.04.02"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Senpai_10"]
[Black "Stockfish_14031419"]
[Result "0-1"]
[PlyCount "235"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[TimeControl "40/195"]
1. b3 {book} e5 {book} 2. Bb2 {book} Nc6 {book} 3. e3 {book} d6 {book}
4. Nf3 {book} Nf6 {book} 5. d3 {book} Be7 {book} 6. Be2 {book} O-O {book}
7. O-O {-0.05/14 4.1s} e4 {-0.07/19 9.9s} 8. dxe4 {+0.06/16 6.6s}
Nxe4 {+0.05/20 5.0s} 9. Nbd2 {+0.12/16 4.0s} Bf6 {+0.04/20 3.3s}
10. Nd4 {+0.17/17 4.6s} Nxd4 {+0.03/20 7.5s} 11. exd4 {+0.15/16 4.1s}
Bf5 {+0.06/20 8.6s} 12. Re1 {+0.14/15 5.0s} Nxd2 {+0.03/23 11s}
13. Qxd2 {+0.12/15 2.3s} c6 {0.00/21 4.5s} 14. Bd3 {+0.14/16 4.7s}
Qd7 {+0.04/19 4.5s} 15. Re2 {+0.08/17 6.1s} Bxd3 {+0.12/20 3.2s}
16. Qxd3 {+0.08/15 2.4s} Rae8 {-0.03/22 8.4s} 17. Rae1 {+0.09/17 7.6s}
Rxe2 {+0.05/23 3.2s} 18. Rxe2 {+0.03/16 7.5s} Re8 {+0.01/20 6.6s}
19. Rxe8+ {+0.10/16 4.9s} Qxe8 {+0.01/1 0s} 20. g3 {+0.08/18 8.3s}
g6 {+0.06/20 8.0s} 21. Kg2 {+0.06/18 7.3s} d5 {+0.07/21 8.9s}
22. f3 {0.00/18 15s} Qe1 {+0.27/24 5.0s} 23. Bc3 {0.00/19 4.0s}
Qc1 {+0.31/25 7.3s} 24. a4 {0.00/18 3.6s} Bg5 {+0.29/26 3.2s}
25. f4 {0.00/19 3.7s} Be7 {+0.29/26 4.0s} 26. h3 {-0.05/18 8.1s}
f5 {+0.40/24 5.0s} 27. Qd2 {-0.04/21 3.6s} Qb1 {+0.40/25 3.4s}
28. Qe2 {-0.09/18 5.4s} Kf7 {+0.38/25 7.9s} 29. Ba5 {-0.07/18 4.4s}
Qb2 {+0.52/22 9.4s} 30. Qd2 {-0.09/21 5.4s} b6 {+0.53/21 4.2s}
31. Bc3 {-0.11/21 4.0s} Qa3 {+0.42/23 6.9s} 32. Qe1 {-0.03/20 5.4s}
h5 {+0.49/23 3.3s} 33. Kf3 {-0.07/19 6.2s} a5 {+0.60/23 6.7s}
34. h4 {-0.10/19 7.7s} Bf6 {+0.56/23 8.2s} 35. Kf2 {-0.06/19 5.1s}
Qf8 {+0.55/23 2.7s} 36. Kf1 {-0.08/19 5.6s} Qd6 {+0.55/23 4.6s}
37. Qe3 {-0.08/20 6.3s} Qc7 {+0.55/24 4.6s} 38. Qe1 {-0.08/22 8.8s}
Qb8 {+0.55/25 3.1s} 39. Kg2 {-0.07/21 7.9s} Qa7 {+0.55/24 3.8s}
40. Kg1 {-0.08/21 3.6s} Qa8 {+0.55/26 5.9s} 41. Kf1 {-0.07/21 15s}
Qh8 {+0.55/26 5.4s} 42. Qe3 {-0.07/22 10s} Qb8 {+0.55/27 5.2s}
43. Ke2 {-0.10/21 7.2s} Qb7 {+0.55/23 9.6s} 44. Kd2 {0.00/21 5.1s}
b5 {+0.46/25 13s} 45. axb5 {-0.08/23 8.7s} Qxb5 {+0.26/29 9.0s}
46. Qe1 {-0.05/24 9.0s} a4 {+0.26/28 4.2s} 47. bxa4 {-0.08/22 4.7s}
Qxa4 {+0.21/32 4.1s} 48. Qa1 {-0.06/22 4.8s} Qxa1 {+0.20/33 9.2s}
49. Bxa1 {-0.03/27 2.8s} c5 {+0.21/37 3.9s} 50. Bc3 {-0.05/31 6.8s}
c4 {+0.21/40 4.8s} 51. Ke3 {-0.05/31 5.1s} Be7 {+0.21/43 3.8s}
52. Ba5 {-0.05/34 4.7s} Bd6 {+0.21/46 3.7s} 53. Be1 {-0.05/32 6.0s}
Ke7 {+0.21/46 3.7s} 54. Ba5 {-0.05/34 4.5s} Ke6 {+0.21/48 3.7s}
55. Ke2 {-0.05/27 4.3s} Ba3 {+0.21/42 5.0s} 56. Ke3 {-0.05/34 7.8s}
Kd7 {+0.21/45 3.6s} 57. Kd2 {-0.05/35 7.2s} Bd6 {+0.21/46 3.5s}
58. Bb6 {-0.13/21 3.8s} Bb4+ {+0.21/41 3.5s} 59. c3 {-0.13/25 3.8s}
Bd6 {+0.21/45 3.5s} 60. Ke2 {-0.06/25 3.8s} Ba3 {+0.21/46 3.5s}
61. Ke3 {-0.06/27 3.2s} Be7 {+0.21/46 4.8s} 62. Ba5 {-0.05/27 3.0s}
Bd6 {+0.21/47 3.4s} 63. Bb6 {-0.05/26 2.9s} Ba3 {+0.21/47 3.8s}
64. Ke2 {-0.05/31 3.9s} Be7 {+0.21/47 3.6s} 65. Ba5 {-0.05/31 2.3s}
Bf8 {+0.21/49 3.4s} 66. Ke3 {-0.05/29 3.6s} Kc8 {+0.21/49 4.2s}
67. Bb6 {-0.05/32 3.3s} Ba3 {+0.21/49 3.4s} 68. Kd2 {-0.05/31 2.5s}
Be7 {+0.21/49 3.4s} 69. Ke3 {-0.05/30 4.4s} Kb7 {+0.16/47 3.5s}
70. Ba5 {-0.05/33 4.1s} Ka6 {+0.16/47 4.0s} 71. Bc7 {-0.05/31 2.8s}
Kb5 {+0.16/54 3.7s} 72. Kd2 {-0.05/29 2.9s} Kc6 {+0.16/52 7.9s}
73. Be5 {-0.05/25 3.4s} Kb7 {+0.16/56 3.4s} 74. Ke3 {-0.05/30 2.7s}
Kb6 {+0.16/57 3.5s} 75. Ke2 {-0.05/29 4.0s} Kb5 {+0.16/56 3.7s}
76. Kd2 {-0.05/27 2.8s} Bd8 {+0.16/56 3.9s} 77. Bd6 {-0.04/28 3.5s}
Ba5 {+0.16/57 4.3s} 78. Be7 {-0.04/28 3.8s} Kc6 {+0.16/47 4.9s}
79. Bc5 {-0.04/29 5.9s} Bd8 {+0.16/52 6.0s} 80. Ke3 {-0.04/29 3.8s}
Kb5 {+0.16/51 7.3s} 81. Kd2 {-0.04/35 10s} Bc7 {+0.16/53 5.1s}
82. Bb4 {-0.04/26 11s} Bb6 {+0.16/52 5.0s} 83. Bd6 {-0.04/29 9.4s}
Kc6 {+0.16/57 4.9s} 84. Be7 {-0.04/32 7.5s} Bc7 {+0.16/50 4.9s}
85. Ke3 {-0.04/32 10s} Kd7 {+0.16/48 5.4s} 86. Bb4 {-0.04/30 6.3s}
Bd8 {+0.16/51 4.7s} 87. Ke2 {-0.04/24 10s} Kc6 {+0.16/53 4.8s}
88. Bc5 {-0.04/35 6.7s} Bc7 {+0.16/46 5.2s} 89. Kd2 {-0.04/34 9.2s}
Ba5 {+0.16/50 4.5s} 90. Be7 {-0.04/33 5.1s} Bb6 {+0.16/50 4.6s}
91. Ke3 {-0.04/34 5.8s} Kd7 {+0.16/50 4.4s} 92. Bb4 {-0.04/28 8.5s}
Ke6 {+0.16/50 4.4s} 93. Kf3 {-0.04/30 4.9s} Bd8 {+0.16/52 5.5s}
94. Ke3 {-0.04/30 6.4s} Bf6 {+0.16/52 4.3s} 95. Kd2 {-0.04/24 4.1s}
Bg7 {+0.16/51 4.2s} 96. Kc2 {0.00/28 6.6s} Kd7 {+0.16/43 4.2s}
97. Kb2 {0.00/30 4.0s} Bf6 {+0.16/42 6.9s} 98. Ka3 {-0.04/29 5.3s}
Bd8 {+0.16/36 4.0s} 99. Ka4 {0.00/31 4.0s} Bc7 {+2.09/29 8.2s}
100. Kb5 {0.00/25 3.4s} g5 {+3.02/28 6.6s} 101. fxg5 {-1.21/17 3.4s}
Ke6 {+3.25/29 3.7s} 102. g6 {-1.65/18 4.5s} Bxg3 {+3.53/29 7.2s}
103. g7 {-1.65/16 2.1s} Kf7 {+4.37/30 13s} 104. Kc6 {-1.68/15 2.0s}
Bxh4 {+4.81/30 12s} 105. Bd6 {-1.80/17 2.0s} Be1 {+4.89/29 2.8s}
106. Kxd5 {-2.79/19 8.8s} h4 {+5.44/26 4.6s} 107. g8=B+ {-3.09/18 2.9s}
Kxg8 {+6.75/28 5.0s} 108. Bf4 {-3.98/22 11s} Kf7 {+7.49/28 2.7s}
109. Bg5 {-3.51/18 1.5s} Kg6 {+8.38/31 4.9s} 110. Bf4 {-5.34/20 3.5s}
Bxc3 {+15.49/23 6.5s} 111. Kxc4 {-3.91/20 1.3s} Be1 {+57.42/32 3.6s}
112. Kd3 {-5.98/22 3.0s} Bg3 {+63.79/30 4.2s} 113. Be3 {-11.33/24 10s}
h3 {+68.21/32 2.3s} 114. Bg1 {-11.26/22 0.33s} h2 {+138.15/32 2.4s}
115. Bxh2 {-11.26/21 0.33s} Bxh2 {+M51/28 7.3s} 116. d5 {-9.89/19 0.42s}
Kf6 {+M43/27 3.2s} 117. Kc4 {-11.05/19 0.52s} Bc7 {+M41/27 2.1s}
118. Kc3 {-9.89/17 0.27s, Black wins by adjudication} 0-1
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